Samsung i8510 INNOV8
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- m hodgson
- 3pa
- 24 Oct 2008
had this phone for a couple of days before sending it back, battery life is the big problem, i had about 7 short calls and made the same texts, forgot to charge it on the night, it wouldn't even turn on in the morning without any warning, then takes hours and hours to fully charge. You MUST charge this phone every single day!
Also this phone is light and feels very fragile and plastic, i think after a 12 month contract an upgrade would be a matter of urgency.
good points- the camera is very good but like most camera phones you have to keep it perfectly still, the music player has a very good sound and the dictionary is quite a novelty.
if you do end up with this phone be sure to get 2 chargers 1 for home and 1 for work, a car charger and dont wander to far away from them ! you've been warned !!!
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- Catze
- wre
- 24 Oct 2008
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970i just look through nokia's sample photos and this phone's and one thing is clear,this phone's beats every nokia phones in camera quality.
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- Shou Ji
- M@T
- 24 Oct 2008
Samsung Techwin and Samsung Electro-Mechanic, two of the Samsung Electronic subsidiaries, have already developed 8 megapixel camera modules with 3x optical zoom.
The module has an autofocus performance improved by 57%, a 1/2.5 inch CMOS sensor and lens that support F2.85.
A Samsung Electro-Mechanic official unveiled that the first handset to come with 8 megapixel and 3x optical zoom will be released in early 2009.
Even more, Samsung manufacture is also working on a 12 megapixel camera module that will be smaller than the 8 megapixel one.
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- Anonymous
- 3bu
- 24 Oct 2008
Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : TI OMAP 2430 450MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N96 : STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 264MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N85 : FreeScale I.MX31 369MHz, 128MB RAM
-Performance Test-
Jbenchmark 1.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 4997
- Nokia N96 : 2796
- Nokia N85 : 3232
Jbenchmark 2.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 532
- Nokia N96 : 358
- Nokia N85 : 548
Jbenchmark 3D HQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 873
- Nokia N96 : 155
- Nokia N85 : 195
Jbenchmark 3D LQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 979
- Nokia N96 : 283
- Nokia N85 : 380
Jbenchmark HD Gaming Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 956 (29.0 fps)
- Nokia N96 : 127 (4.2 fps)
- Nokia N85 : 166 (5.5 fps)
TI OMAP 2430 model are the 2nd generation of TI OMAP chips, 2420, powers multiple hi-end Nokia smartphones(N93, N95, E90, N82) and has in fact an integrated 3D accelerator.
The improvement from 2420 also extremely numerous. The CPU frequency has been pulled up to 450MHz from previous value of 330MHz. The chipset can work with high definition camera(> 5 MP) and it take less than a second to take shot. The rest important point about 2430 hardware are an upgrade TWL4030 module (TWL 92230 was used in 2420). TWL4030 is multifunctional solution providing access to numerous codecs, dedicated audio processing module, noise filters, and so on.
Samsung i8510 is the first Samsung smartphone to fully utilize the potential of the hardware graphics accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing 8 megapixel images, real-time VGA video decoding with separate audio signal processing(done by dedicated DSP, excluding the possibility of using the music player and camera at the same time). The graphic accelerator can now handle twice as few polygons per second, commonly used to power the best gaming phone.
Nokia N85 utilizes the same hardware as N78, N81, and N79. Freescale is cheaper solution for the most expensive TI OMAP 2430. The lack of 3D accelerator is blatant in the Jbenchmark 3D test. N85 lags behind in other test as well. Despite the lags seen in the test, N85 audio quality is the same with N96, a bit above than N78, but a bit below than Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8.
Battery:
- Samsung i8510 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 310 h, Talk time Up to 8 h 30 min
- Nokia N96 : Standard, Li-Ion 950 mAh, Stand-by Up to 220 h, Talk time Up to 3 h 40 min !!!!!!!!
- Nokia N85 : Standard, Li-Ion 1200 mAh, Stand-by Up to 360 h, Talk time Up to 6 h 50 min
Camera:
- Samsung i8510 : 8 MP, Video VGA@30fps, QVGA@120fps
- Nokia N96 : 5 MP , Video VGA@30fps
- Nokia N85 : 5 MP, Video VGA@30fps
Conclusion :
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 has faster hardware performance, the best camera, excellent sound - DNSe 2.0 (Digital Natural Sound engine), excellent build quality, good battery, good price etc. while Nokia N96 is the slowest most expensive and with just 950 mah battery.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 fully utilize the potential of the 3D graphic accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing the camera, video recording, decoding and playback. Nokia N85 and N96 can't handle this perfectly because the lack of graphic accelerator.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 is the best gaming phone today. U can enjoy your 3D or HD games running perfectly in 29 fps, while Nokia N85 and N96 only can run below 10 fps. Thank's to dedicated hardware graphic accelerator.
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- Daemon
- iba
- 24 Oct 2008
I used plenty of Samsung mobiles before....but honestly its really make me disappointed...but Innov8 lighten up my heart towards it....i will try it as soon as i can in Malaysia...b.u.m.p for samsung!!
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- Mustaine8661
- 0yc
- 24 Oct 2008
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2008It actually has 3.5G which drains the battery a damn sight ... morecongratulations
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- Anonymous
- m25
- 24 Oct 2008
I see that samsung in front of nokia in term of innovation n technology now. Well done. Looking forward 2 see u to overpass nokia in term of sal3s. Bravo samsung!
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- matt
- 3iK
- 24 Oct 2008
can someone tell me the best settings for best photo possible . thanks
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- Anonymous
- P%n
- 24 Oct 2008
Mustaine8661, 24 Oct 2008It actually has 3.5G which is a damn sight quicker that the... moreIt actually has 3.5G which drains the battery a damn sight quicker than the iPhone which is also 3.5G.
There I fixed it for you.
Due to the way 3.5G works i.e. being connected to multiple phone towers at once to get the speed required, it drains the battery faster.
If you look at any of the 3.5G phones you will notice battery life is a common complaint.
This trade off will only be solved by the introduction of something that can store a lot more power eg fuel cells, but that's still a long way off.
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- Anonymous
- ft4
- 24 Oct 2008
Symbian is the best software ever with hardware samsung
so it's rocks N96
The only disadvantage for INNOV8 the battery max. 2 days and expensive
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- Mustaine8661
- 0yc
- 24 Oct 2008
badboy21, 24 Oct 2008whats so great about this phone? does it have 3g internet l... moreIt actually has 3.5G which is a damn sight quicker that the iPhone.
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- badboy21
- j@S
- 24 Oct 2008
whats so great about this phone? does it have 3g internet like the iphone? looks great but why so expensive? what does it have?
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- Anonymous
- P%n
- 24 Oct 2008
Anonymous, 01 Jan 1970Keep your head in the sand ostrich boy...
...currently there is no Nokia that can match the functionality of this phone or any of the other 8 megapixel camera phones.
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- Ryo Jin
- M@T
- 24 Oct 2008
Anonymous, 24 Oct 2008JBenchmark only tests performance for specific Java calcula... more TI OMAP 2430 model are the 2nd generation of TI OMAP chips, 2420, powers multiple hi-end Nokia smartphones(N93, N95, E90, N82) and has in fact an integrated 3D accelerator.
The improvement from 2420 also extremely numerous. The CPU frequency has been pulled up to 450MHz from previous value of 330MHz. The chipset can work with high definition camera(> 5 MP) and it take less than a second to take shot. The rest important point about 2430 hardware are an upgrade TWL4030 module (TWL 92230 was used in 2420). TWL4030 is multifunctional solution providing access to numerous codecs, dedicated audio processing module, noise filters, and so on.
Samsung i8510 is the first Samsung smartphone to fully utilize the potential of the hardware graphics accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing 8 megapixel images, real-time VGA video decoding with separate audio signal processing(done by dedicated DSP, excluding the possibility of using the music player and camera at the same time). The graphic accelerator can now handle twice as few polygons per second, commonly used to power the best gaming phone.
Nokia N85 utilizes the same hardware as N78, N81, and N79. Freescale is cheaper solution for the most expensive TI OMAP 2430. The lack of 3D accelerator is blatant in the Jbenchmark 3D test. N85 lags behind in other test as well. Despite the lags seen in the test, N85 audio quality is the same with N96, a bit above than N78, but a bit below than Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8.
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- Anonymous
- Mw{
- 24 Oct 2008
Anonymous, 23 Oct 2008(copy from previous posts)
It's so sad since Samsung Inn... moreJBenchmark only tests performance for specific Java calculations. Synthetic Java benchmark shows nothing noteworthy regarding real processor performance.
Freescale I.MX31 is a much better platform than old and power hungry OMAP 2430. You can read it yourself too. Here:
www.synchromeshcomputing.com/SynchromeshComputingFTF-Presentation-Benchmarking.ppt.
A standalone 3D accelerator has nothing to do with video recording, decoding and playback and photo processing. These are handled via Image and Video Accelerator found in the cpu or as another standalone chip. A standalone 3D accelerator isn't supported by most of the applications at all except by very limited number of Java games. N-gage games for Nokia do not support 3D accelerator.
Definitely N85>INNOV8 in terms of overall performance. INNOV8 is so bulky. I don't know much about N96 but I agree that INNOV8>N96.
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- Jibs
- pKc
- 24 Oct 2008
Dani , 23 Oct 2008Either this or N95 8GB hard decision.innov8 ofcourse
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- Anonymous
- P%n
- 23 Oct 2008
fiction, 23 Oct 2008What about sound quality in earphones of N85 compared to IN... moreOf course it does, it's the best Symbian phone available.
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- fiction
- 0wS
- 23 Oct 2008
What about sound quality in earphones of N85 compared to INNOV8? Does INNOV8 has dedicated sound processor?
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- Anonymous
- 3bu
- 23 Oct 2008
(copy from previous posts)
It's so sad since Samsung Innov8 was posted as #1 phone rated on gsmarena.com with design, features, and performance average of 8.8 just 5 days ago. All of a suddon the ratings drops!! Hmmm.. It does show we have some Butthurt Nokia fans
Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 vs Nokia N96 vs Nokia N85 : Hardware Performance
CPU Platform :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : TI OMAP 2430 450MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N96 : STMicroelectronics Nomadics STn8815 264MHz, 128MB RAM
- Nokia N85 : FreeScale I.MX31 369MHz, 128MB RAM
-Performance Test-
Jbenchmark 1.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 4997
- Nokia N96 : 2796
- Nokia N85 : 3232
Jbenchmark 2.0.1 Total Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 532
- Nokia N96 : 358
- Nokia N85 : 548
Jbenchmark 3D HQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 873
- Nokia N96 : 155
- Nokia N85 : 195
Jbenchmark 3D LQ Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 979
- Nokia N96 : 283
- Nokia N85 : 380
Jbenchmark HD Gaming Score :
- Samsung GT-i8510 : 956 (29.0 fps)
- Nokia N96 : 127 (4.2 fps)
- Nokia N85 : 166 (5.5 fps)
Conclusion :
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 has faster hardware performance at the same level with Nokia N85, while Nokia N96 is the slowest.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 fully utilize the potential of the 3D graphic accelerator. It is an absolute requirement for processing the camera, video recording, decoding and playback. Nokia N85 and N96 can't handle this perfectly because the lack of graphic accelerator.
- Samsung GT-i8510 INNOV8 are the best gaming phone today. U can enjoy your 3D or HD games running perfectly in 29 fps, while Nokia N85 and N96 only can run below 10 fps. Thank's to dedicated hardware graphic accelerator.
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- Anonymous
- 3bu
- 23 Oct 2008
Dani , 23 Oct 2008Either this or N95 8GB hard decision.It is personal opinion but N95 vs INNOV8 ?! No chance. Nokia got outdated hardware. At this moment, in this category of mobile phones. INNOV8 is the "new king".