Sony Ericsson Satio (Idou)
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- Mobilemaster
- Lax
- 15 Jul 2009
nick, 15 Jul 2009awful, again just excuses. the Quality of the video take... moreIf you don't like SE, you can leave the forum, is not hard.
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- Anonymous
- mst
- 15 Jul 2009
SE fans love what ever SE does! :))))
Yesterday was Microsoft OS and Symbian suxs
Today Symbian is great
War between Idou and Omnia HD?
These people can not comprehend that to have war both party has to exist.
Idou is not released - does not exist!
It is not on the battlefield! :)))))
Can not win. Others taking the profit!
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- Anonymous
- mst
- 15 Jul 2009
nick, 15 Jul 2009awful, again just excuses.
the Quality of the video take... moreI agree!
For some ..... fan here:
VGA is better than HD
TFT better than OLED
1000mAh battery better than 1500mAh
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- Anonymous
- uSR
- 15 Jul 2009
nick, 15 Jul 2009also more memory means more bugs?! what are you talking ... moreHow can videos taken by Omnia be fabolous when it doesn't even have auto-focus functionality. LOL! Talking bout HD! LOL
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- nick
- nxw
- 15 Jul 2009
nick, 15 Jul 2009awful, again just excuses.
the Quality of the video take... morealso more memory means more bugs?!
what are you talking about! have you got any proof of that whatsoever?! the omnia HD needs a lot of internal memory because it has the HD video recording which obviously takes in a lot of digital information.
oh just buy the omnia HD. it's so much better and available now!
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- nick
- nxw
- 15 Jul 2009
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2009you said :
1.the HD has better a better video resolution... moreawful, again just excuses.
the Quality of the video taken by the omnia HD is fabulous, so dont even make up such rubbish, you have no idea what you're on about.
and since you're using the screen for basically every operation of the phone, I'd say it's quite important that it's responsive (capacative is in its nature)
by standard connections, i meant a 3.5mm jack + miniusb ports. also stop making out the HD video thing to be a problem. You're trying to say that VGA is better, and no, it just isnt. it isnt hard to just extract videos off a phone and play them back on a computer monitor.
i am so behind kal on the video debate too, he's making sense and you're all trying to knock him down
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- Mobilemaster
- Lax
- 15 Jul 2009
an se fan, 14 Jul 2009Yes I have a computer and a laptop that's why my ID change ;)Ok, bro. :)
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- Anonymous
- 2@f
- 15 Jul 2009
if sony were alone
we would hv seen much better and even better product
bcoz i think on these sony ericsson phones
50percent goes to ericsson .
so sony hv to protect it's own line of product and technology .They cant inject each and every technology of them in these SE phones
it is really tough time for sony
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- kal
- vwd
- 15 Jul 2009
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2009Clearly, SONY is protecting their own line of products. Nok... moreThere you go, that's my question is.
Why can't they inject such technology? Are we paying LESS? I wish to see them injecting such technologies.
They are paying a price for protecting their own line of products.
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- kal
- vwd
- 15 Jul 2009
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2009And of course when SE formally announce Rachael, you'll be ... moreNo, Rachael looks impressive, I liked the design and at this point of time the specs are great though incomplete.
Yes, I will say things if they keep coming with announcement after announcement rather than actual release or full specsheet. I will say things, if before it's availability someone claim that it is best. I guess it will not be released before 2010 1Q. By that time there will be more similar models to compare with.
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- Anonymous
- uSR
- 15 Jul 2009
Kal, 15 Jul 2009My post is very specific about whats been happening in vide... moreClearly, SONY is protecting their own line of products. Nokia and LG were not into videocam industry...neither Samsung is big in that department.
Have you ever thought how easy for SONY to inject such technology into SE phones?
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- Anonymous
- 2Am
- 15 Jul 2009
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2009Again, if SONY wasnt producing HD videocam SE could've impl... moreDream on and Goodluck.
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- Kal
- vwd
- 15 Jul 2009
Anonymous, 15 Jul 2009Again, if SONY wasnt producing HD videocam SE could've impl... moreMy post is very specific about whats been happening in video recording in mobile phone industry.
Your post suggests that Sony was busy with their handycam production so they couldn't put better video capability in mobile phone? But still their models were priced on par or higher than others. How lame excuses could get?
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- Anonymous
- uSR
- 15 Jul 2009
Kal, 15 Jul 2009 Phones with video recording capability available so far: ... moreAnd of course when SE formally announce Rachael, you'll be in that forum, too. Saying the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...
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- Anonymous
- uSR
- 15 Jul 2009
Kal, 15 Jul 2009
Phones with video recording capability available so far:
... moreAgain, if SONY wasnt producing HD videocam SE could've implemented one of the best video capability on a mobilephone there is.
You may have posted long list of phone model with good video recording but...STILL PHOTOS is still the name of the game.
And BTW, do you own an Omnia HD? LOL!
And SE has the best Symbian OS 5th Ed implementation, nothing beats SE in Multimedia UI.
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- Kal
- vwd
- 15 Jul 2009
Adiel, 14 Jul 2009VGA a standard long ago??Really??And can you tell me how ma... more
Phones with video recording capability available so far:
Nokia:
VGA@30pfs
6233 - 2005 4Q
6234 - 2005 4Q
6280 - 2005 June
N93 - 2006 April
6288 - 2006 September
N95 - 2006 September/2007 March
N93 - 2007 January
N95 8gb - 2007 August/October
N82 - 2007 November
6220 - 2008 Feb/July
N96 - 2008 Feb/September
N79 - 2008 August/October
N85 - 2008 August/October
5800 ExpressMusic - 2008 October/November
N97 - 2008 November/2009 June
E75 - 2009 Feb/April
N86 - 2009 Feb/June
VGA@15fps
6500 Slide 2007 May/September
5610 ExpressMusic - 2007 August/October
8800 Arte - 2007 November/December
8800 Sapphire Atre - 2007 November/2008 Feb
6210 Navigator - Feb/July
N78 - 2008 Feb/ May
3600 Slide - 2008 April/August
6600 Slide - 2008 April/August
6600 Fold - 2008 April/August
8800 carbon Arte - 2008 August/September
6260 Slide - 2008 November/2009 April
8800 Gold Arte - 2008 December/2009 April
6208c - 2008 December/2009 March
6303 Classic - 2008 December/2009 May
6700 Classic - 2009 January/May
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Samsung:
720p HD
Omnia HD - 2009 Feb/May
WVGA@30fps
M8800 Pixon - 2008 September/November
T929 Memoir - 2009 Feb
D1@30fps
S7350 Ultra S - 2009 Feb/May
S8300 UltraTouch - 2009 Feb/March
VGA@30pfs
Innov8 - 2008 July/September
i7110- 2008 October/2009 Feb
VGA@15fps
G600 - 2007 July
B5702 - 2009 Feb
M7600 Beat DJ - 2009 Feb/May
Omnia i900 - 2008 June/ July
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LG:
D1video
KC550 - 2008 May
KC780 - 2008 October/November
KF900 Prada - 2008 October/December
KM900 Arena - 2009 Feb/April
GC900 ViewtySmart - 2009 April/May
KS660 D1@15fps - 2009 Feb/May
VGA@30fps
KE990 Viewty - 2008 March/April
Ku990 Viewty - 2008 August/October
KF755 Secret - 2008 April/December
KF750 Secret - 2008 April/June
KC910 Renoir - 2008 August/November
KC910i Renoir - 2009 Feb/May
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Sony Ericsson:
VGA@30fps
XPERIA X1 - 2008 Feb/October
Aino - 2009 May coming soon
Satio - 2009 Feb coming soon
WQVGA@30fps
W995 - 2009 Feb/May
Yes, VGA was standard in 2008 for top-end multimedia models.
Have you read any SE review? Then you must have noticed that one of their disadvantage always been poor video recording capability. When QVGA was standard they gave you QCIF. When VGA was standard they gave you QVGA. they were always one step behind on this. If you disagree then I'm talking to one of the dumbest person I had ever came across. Their only VGA capable phone available so far is X1. I have strong doubts how they came up with it, given the fact that it was developed in collaboration with HTC. Only in 2007 June SE achieved a "milestone" by putting QVGA video when the industry standard was set by Nokia for VGA. In 2009 they went another step and put WQVGA in their W995. By then LG and Samsung took the momentum from Nokia and went ahead releasing WVGA/D1 capable phones. The only other two VGA phones coming up from SE are Aino and Satio. If you look at the figures above, it clearly shows Nokia made VGA standard in their top end phones from 2005..then it became regular practice for 2008. 2009 is for D1, thanks to Samsung and LG. The future is HD. I'm glad that finally you said "HD will become a standard".
There are criteria when one review a phone. Availability of 3.5 jack is one of them. It's a standard factor. You can go ahead and bark as long as you want but the fact remains same.
Stylish, exciting, smooth, stable..these are things that depends on personal taste. As of now Satio can't match HD on SPECS, where it can be actually compared, given the fact that it's not available yet. Other than it's 12mp camera (which I have already proved, needs improvement as at times it cant even match HD's 8mp) I don't see anything "better" on Satio as of now. And I stand by my words. Satio seems to be a good device, just don't compare it with HD. Period.
Yes satio is most probably the most talk about, most popular phone at present, thanks to SE's "great" announcement strategy, but it's the sales figures that matters. People do talk about SE and rate it high, but how many of them actually buy it? Sales figure proves that.
And by the way the BIGGEST marketing gimmick of this year is the branding "Entertainment Unlimited" itself.
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- mstL
- PBR
- 15 Jul 2009
SE says:
"Drag, drop, enjoy - Media Go
The perfect entertainment organiser - Media Go makes it easier than ever before to bring your media with you, wherever you go. Transfer your media files between your phone and PC via drag and drop. File conversion is hassle-free, too: Media Go automatically converts films and music files to give you the best possible quality."
My question: is this MediaGo organizer is installed to the phone or it'll just come with PC Suit cds, and is this also works for DivX/XVid files, and it is converted to what file (extension)?
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- Anonymous
- wra
- 15 Jul 2009
nick, 15 Jul 2009it's not a useless phone, but when you can buy the already ... moreyou said :
1.the HD has better a better video resolution ?
2.the HD uses standard connections
3.the HD has a better screen (amoled + glass)
4.the HD has a capacitive screen
5.the HD has divx and plays higher bitrates of video than the satio does
6.the HD has more memory in it
7.the HD has a digital compass (gimmick really)
my answer is :
1.Yes.you are right HD has a better video resolution but unfortunetly your HD video quality is not real HD video quality because of omap 3430.omap 3430 is not for HD video quality but VGA or D1.In other word your video is HD resolution with VGA or D1 quality.you HD video quality will be beaten easyly by other real HD video phone with omap 3440 for real HD video quality soon.Samsung lied you with HD video word on omnia HD spec but actually the quality is not real but you are happy with it.you are a sad people.also HD video is useless on 360 x 640 with 3.7" screen but samsung sets it with HD device price. Dont forget the audio quality of your HD video is very bad then samsung tried to fix it, it looks like a failed product for me.
2. HD use standard connection??even you must have HDTV to watch your HD video.
3 and 4. i dont care about it because satio screen doesnt have a problem about it. the satio screen is sharp and clear enough also the screen is very responsive and faster than omnia HD even satio is still a prototype device. so what is the problem?
5.HD plays higher bitrates of video than the satio does? of course HD plays higher bitrates of video bacause your video is HD resolution, bigger size but lets to talk about quality.omnia HD and satio use same graphic chip and processor speed but satio camera quality is better than omnia HD. i think satio video quality will be better than your HD video quality. wait for final review of satio.
6. yes. you gets a buggy problem because of that much memory on your omnia HD.
7. compass?? i dont care...
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- Anonymous
- uC4
- 15 Jul 2009
"it's not a useless phone, but when you can buy the already available omnia HD, i cannot see any reason why you would stick around for this.
the HD has better a better video resolution
the HD uses standard connections
the HD has a better screen (amoled + glass)
the HD has a capacitive screen
the HD has divx and plays higher bitrates of video than the satio does
the HD has more memory in it
the HD has a digital compass (gimmick really)
but those reasons alone are the reason why you should get one."
I WONT get it because it's NOT a Sony Ericsson. End of story. Samsung...HaHaHaHa
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- mIf
- 15 Jul 2009
y to buy this phone... will buy the more powerful and the more stronger... talking abt se xperia racheal....