Sony Ericsson W810
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 29 Jan 2006
cheers jo! :)
another proof about a manufacturer's durability in their products!
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- Striker
- myX
- 29 Jan 2006
Casper & Bav:
It should be out in Europe around March.
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 29 Jan 2006
at last, EDGE on a walkman phone, i hope d phone's mem & sim's memory (in phonebook) can be shown at d same time and can save more than 1 on each field under a name unlike with previous models.
Aparadectos:
just tell me and explain seriously to me y am i biased as wat u said. give me examples of my previous posts that u think was biased. what i only said and will say is just the plain truth. i don't invent, imagine, censure any gadget or brand or even big up on something (evidently, a certain dude out there had an info b4 which he/she thought d 1st one to come up w/ such a function on a mobile phone but in d real world his/her info was not TRUE as a result, ended up ashamed) without any true basis (from trusted sources, etc) and/or enough experience on a product. wat do u want me to do, big up SE W900 against 6280 even the latter gives better encoding and decoding of videos (VGA of 6280 vs QVGA of W900) even W900 is absolutely more expensive?!?! pls let me remind u of d topic (since u've joined and startlingly called me biased) here it is:
"who can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video, bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
now tell me and point to me y r u calling me biased!
maybe a real hardcore SE fanatic (on this forum) u can really call biased, (just to justify his/her beloved brand) like:
"SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough."
"about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear.
how can you change from a w800 to e398 and call it reliable. and why the hell would you give a small child such an expensive phone. forget about phone quality, that is ust irresponsibility"
that's what u call biased. (again, those 2 last msgs r from a hardcore SE fanatic). probably by now u'll know 4sure what d word biased really is.. about problematic handsets, maybe ur right that nokia is d #1 list on it, but had it ever glimpse on ur mind in d long 7 years in a telecommunications field for a fact dat maybe bcoz nokia is d #1 handset maker and virtually has more than a quarter of d mobile phone market in d whole world! wat do u expect, SE having more problematic units than nokia even SE having a small market share compared to nokia. its just a simple statistic u know! with that said, perhaps we don't need to go by numbers... (w8, don't try to call me biased, otherwise prove it to me wat i have said in there is not true, then u can call me truly biased) peace out!
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- casper
- SXU
- 29 Jan 2006
this phone is way better than K750 for me, it's a lot nicer, does any1 know when it comes out in europe? and how good is the screen resolution?
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- Aparadectos
- nsG
- 29 Jan 2006
Viperkid, u r a hard core NOKIA fan and u r biased so as litle people,
i dont if u really convinced ut self of the NOKIA's high quality superiority, or u know its untrue and try to convince the others for it.
If u have any idea about what a mobile is and what determines its quality and why NOKIA is superior to this field than i chalenge u to enlighten me too, i ve been in the telecomunications field 7years and i know people that can give acces to the numbers of problematic handsets of NOKIA,SIEMENS,SE,SAMSUNG etc
guess wich company is in the first place?
NOKIA,
how ever i believe this prooves nothing,
but if u wish we go by numbers...
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- matt
- PGH
- 29 Jan 2006
i think it's a fantastic phone although i've never seen it before but i consider sony ericsson w810 as more fascination than nokia phone and i like the design that is simply gorgeous
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- jo
- Pv9
- 29 Jan 2006
"Can nokia offer that same guarantee and respected brand name?"
of course! they are the best in that. i seen nokia phones with 10 years old and still working!, and not one, LOTS!!
that SE can't do, 5/10 SE phones comes with problems.
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- bav
- mgc
- 28 Jan 2006
Hi can anyone tell me if this phone is coming out in Europe. Ive seen it on Carphone Warehouse website but i thought this was planned for America only ? Can someone correct me please?
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- Anonymous
- F9q
- 28 Jan 2006
this is gorge, its definitely the badger! it sneds shivers down my spine. Please put on a picture of the 'fusion white' model! Cheers
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- rob
- QSc
- 28 Jan 2006
I see this phone being sold on ebay. But I thought that it is not released yet, how can that be possible? I also asked a seller if I need to wait for it to be released until they ship it, but he said that he has it available now. Are these legitimate phones? Would appreciat it if someone could shed some light on the issue.
Thanks,
Rob
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience. again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video,
bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!!") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer
you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of d above SUBJECT). how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em. how can u unwisely say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality if only a drop of (W800) [relatively not that high] and camera = piece of junk, plus d fact dat millions of
nokia users can't b wrong about d build quality of nokia dat's y nokia has more customers dan SE cuz dey know from their experiences who makes more durable units. i agree w/ u, about u striker not to waste ur time hir, u know y? cuz ur "LOST" and out of d topic. at least u admitted dat W810 is a disappointment and added SE's screens r not dt good (and obviously became a Samsung D600 user). since ur out of d topic, i'll ride with u 4 a wyl, u don't understand nokia's policy on their announce-release, dey're doing it for us, so we'll know d upcoming
models by a certain time and not be tricked by SE by offering quite a few models only targetted at a small market contrary with nokia dat gives more choices 4 different market segments (e.g 73xx for fashionistas, Nseries for high quality multimedia features [each with specialty] (apparently for "technoids" lyk u striker), Eseries & 95xx for businessmen, et al) these also explains y there r so many "coming soon" currently and besides (don't get me wrong) dey r d no. 1 handset maker, wat do u expect! slating is different from subjective
comparison. im not wasting my tym, its kinda like d opposite, get a grip. i'll tell u, SE is d 1 misleading u by releasing new models with almost d same features (e.g. K750, W800, W810) those 3 models from left to right had only a few tweaks and minor differences on their design. dat's y u just apparently resorted to Samsung D600.
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- Air-ic
- ijJ
- 28 Jan 2006
its a cool phone...id like to hav it
but even though SE is pretty good....
in india its not got such a fan followin
cud anybody tell me y???
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- charles
- TKb
- 28 Jan 2006
wow, come on guys... The is no point for us argue over this... Chill out a little...
Cut the story short, se got its good and bad n so as nokia... It just the matter whether the phone suits u or not...
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- viperkid
- PRQ
- 28 Jan 2006
Ken2.5:
w900 came out initially at $900++, and absolutely not d "people" as u said, who had early access to it but WElectronics had that price! i know u know that (ur just denying it). in fact, u have confirmed and declared dat matter urself:
"those were just people who had early access to the phone and wanted to make a quick buck"
oh well. those opinions of urs are for die hard SE fanatics (especially: "about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear") not all d time u can use speakerphone u also know dat (wen u want privacy) who r willing to sacrifice real phone features and exchange for "so-so phone features". well quality is quality, he had his (my nephew) E398 for quite some time now and dropped it for many times at higher places and its still working fine! SE fanatics are biased, wen K750 arrived some of u r saying wow K750 has 2mpx its d best and it has auto focus unlike with other phones, but when SE has inferior screen to the other manufacturers all u want to say is (just to justify ur beloved brand):
"SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough."
oh look who's talking men!
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- viperkid
- PRQ
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience! again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video,
bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!! ") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer
you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of
d above SUBJECT)! how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em! how can u idiotically say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality if only a drop of (W800) [relatively not that high] and camera = piece of junk, plus d fact dat millions of nokia users can't b wrong about d build quality of nokia dat's y nokia has more customers dan SE cuz dey know from their experiences who makes
more durable units. i agree w/ u, about u striker not to waste ur time hir, u know y? cuz ur "LOST" and out of d topic! at least u admitted dat W810 is a disappointment and added SE's screens r not dt good (and obviously became a Samsung D600 user). since ur out of d topic, i'll ride with u 4 a wyl, u don't understand nokia's policy on their
announce-release, dey're doing it for us, so we'll know d upcoming models by a certain time and not be tricked by SE by offering quite a few models only targetted at a small market contrary with nokia dat gives more choices 4 different market segments (e.g 73xx for fashionistas, Nseries for high quality multimedia features [each with specialty] (apparently for "technoids" lyk u striker), Eseries & 95xx for businessmen, et al) these also explains y there r so many "coming soon" currently and besides (don't get me wrong) dey r d no. 1 handset
maker, wat do u expect! slating is different from subjective comparison. im not wasting my tym, its kinda like d opposite, get a
grip! i'll tell u, SE is d 1 misleading u by releasing new models with almost d same features (e.g. K750, W800, W810) those 3 models from left to right had only a few tweaks and minor differences on their design! dat's y u just apparently resorted to Samsung D600!
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- Anonymous
- TSF
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience! again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video, bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!! ") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of d above SUBJECT)! how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em! how can u idiotically say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality
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- robbo
- nEP
- 27 Jan 2006
i have this phone and it is excellent i have a 2 gig card in it with plenty videos and about 300 songs the phone has not slowed down one bit i also have hundreds of games on it in my oppinon this si the phone to get its stylish cool to have and has all the features u need for everyday life music pictures contacts lol its mint
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- Evaldas LTU
- ntW
- 27 Jan 2006
Perfect, but i live in estonia, and there is no gsm networks :((
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- ken2.5
- Nxs
- 27 Jan 2006
viperkid- hey buddy, didnt think that you would be able to chat ust because i wasnt here. ANYWAY.
w900 did not come out at $900. those were just people who had early access to the phone and wanted to make a quick buck. it came out @$750.
come on now we know that the n80 shines here and there. if we wanted a smartphone we would go for that. but we are not. remember you are in the wrong forum buddy. we are here to talk about the w810. not the w900. go to that forum aand lay down you opinions there.
about the phone book, with the sony you can ust save all your contacts onto the memory card and then will not have of those problems. oh and find friends that have 1 home/ office.
you can use the volume buttons to skip to the next page you fool.
have you actually used the damn phone. i havent but if it goes for only 10 seconds then its your problem. just dont buy it.
about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear.
how can you change from a w800 to e398 and call it reliable. and why the hell would you give a small child such an expensive phone. forget about phone quality, that is ust irresponsibility. and may i guess that the phone used to be yours anyway.
+ grow up. fugly. you have to use such words. honestly.
SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough.
Stiker- nice one mate.
viperkid- stiker is right. w900 is in the past. n80 isthe future. we cannot say that it is not a good phone. we have never disputed that fact. but if we are ever going to continue these arguements then we need to look at the same period. either the now. the soon. or the coming soon. n80 sounds like a wonderful phone now, but if nokia pulls aa nother phone out on us then the n80 will look crappy and people will wait for the phone. nokia just like every other brand does delay their phones. trust me if i had the money and that phone was out i would get it. but it is not. unfortunately we havr no way of comparing the n80 with any other phone, becuase we do not know when it will be released and what other phones will be released then.
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- Striker
- MSN
- 27 Jan 2006
Viperkid
We both know that when boogie and ryanloh made their comments they were referring to the Nokia 6680. And looking at the 6680, and the rest of the sheer volume of disposable, forgettable rubbish that Nokia churn out, I have to agree with them.
See, every single time you come here to slate SE, you do so by boringly reeling off specs of the N80. Thats 1 model, and admittedly, its a superb peice of kit, and by far the best thing Nokia have ever come up with, but what you seem to like to ignore is the fact that the W900 has already been released. Almost 2 months ago in fact. The N80 however is still "coming soon" (yeah sure its coming soon - if Nokia's previous announce-release policy is anything to go by its gonna be summer before we see the N80) So you're comparing a phone of the future with a phone of today. Different generation and different class of phones Viperkid, therefore, unfair comparison. You know this only too well but carry on with your meaningless unfair comparisons. How many times do you need to hear this before you stop?
You tried to cover yourself by then going on to the 6280 and your main point is that its cheaper than the W900 yet the specs are similar.. OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!!
We've already discussed why SE's cost more - Same with any Sony TV's, DVD players, laptops etc etc - always cost a little more. SE phones are no different. You're paying that bit extra for a reputable brand name and the guarantee of a decent quality product. Can nokia offer that same guarantee and respected brand name?
Viperkid, we've argued about this before, and personally I'd rather not waste time covering old ground. Can you not just accept that the quality and kudos of Sony's products are reflected in their price? Same applies to SE phones. There will always be certain features that don't please everyone, SE's screens are not good enough for me, the W810's is a disappointment, but so what - is there such a thing as the perfect phone?
I think what boogie and ryanloh were trying to get at is that Nokia churn out so much rubbish up to everyone else. Yeah, the N80 is excellent, but for every one good phone, Nokia have 30 bad ones. And the way they mislead their customers with their announce-release policy is a disgrace. The amount of "coming soon" models on the Nokia page of GSM arena is like 6 times more than any other manufacturer. Viperkid, its inevitable that when a company produces such volumes, quality will slip. Deny it all you like, point out faults with SE models all you like, but you can;t hide the truth that 90% of Nokias are sub-standard, and that 90% adds up to way more sub-standard models than anyone else!
You can go on comparing the N80 to all of the SE models all you like, but what happens when SE come along with a competitor for it? (which I'm sure will be released around the same time as the N80 - SE just don't go misleading their customers into thinking a phone is coming soon only to delay delay delay). So when that SE competitor comes, what are you gonna slate SE for then Viperkid??? You'll have to go back to price. So if thats the case, you should go off and leave similar comments on a Sony Plasma forum, a laptop forum, a dvd player forum. etc etc etc. You'll get the same response everywhere though so I wouldn't waste your time.