Sony Ericsson W810
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- Striker#
- myX
- 29 Jan 2006
And Viperkid, as for your opinion of Nokia's announce-release policy - "they're doing it for us" ha ha ha ha ha awwwwww aren't Nokia just the sweetest and most considerable people???? Viperkid, do you really think they're doing it for the people? They do it for PROFIT. Its so they can appear ahead of their competition to whichever gullible goons will believe them. Remember, many moons ago when Nokia announced the "Ipod killing N91" This was seen as the benchmark. A music phone of the future. Since that announcement we've had the W800 released, the W900 announced and released, the ROKRs, the I300, and I'm sure we'll see the W810 before the N91 too. Nokia get their fanatics drooling over pictures of phones of the future and lie to them with a promise of "coming soon" then by the time they're released they're in line with the current market! The fanatics should then realise they've been duped yet they don't. They just part with their money while drooling over the next "coming soon" (N80 anyone???)
C'mon Viperkid, stop lying to everyone and yourself and admit you're biased towards Nokia. I'm man enough to say I'm biased towards SE - Too right I am. I like SE's phones, and I trust any manufacturuer who have Sony onboard. They don't mislead customers with empty promises, and every SE I've had has served me well. I can't stand Nokia and will not give them another penny of my money as long as I live. They've sold their client base down the river by going from a manufacturer of excellent durable quality phones to profit-hungry, customer-misleading, mass producers of dispasable rubbish with abysmal customer service. They dupe their customers into thinking they're still the Nokia of 10 years ago, but you show me 1 Nokia of today that'll still be going strong in 10 years. Like it or not Viperkid, they ain't what they used to be, so yeah, I'm biased against Nokia. So what? Thats my opinion, and even though you seem scared to admit you're biased too, you're just as much entitled to yopur opinion as I am.
But don't go lying about it while trying to disguise it as honest, unbiased advice cos its clearly not. Why are you even here, on the Sony ericsson forums when all you can do is praise Nokia and slate SE? You're here again and again and again, stirring up arguments with SE users, making personal, impolite and abusive remarks, Why???? Calm it down Viperkid.
Why don't you leave any posts on the forum of your beloved N80? I got to page 10 of that forum before I gave up looking for a post from you. So basically, you only come to GSMArena to come to the SE forums and stir up trouble. Go away Viperkid and come back when you grow up a little.
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- Striker
- myX
- 29 Jan 2006
Jo & Viperkid:
Firstly, I couldn't agree more about the early Nokia phones. Amazingly durable, and yeah, some 10yr old Nokia models are still going today. Superb. But THIS is exactly the reputation Nokia have been riding on the back of ever since, and these 10yr old durable diamonds are why Nokia still sell as many phones as they do and why they are the No1 seller. Since the days of producing hard-wearing durable, functional mobile phones (When I was just as big a Nokia fan as you two), they've turned to mass-producing disposable rubbish. People DO still associate Nokia with the reliable, durable Nokia of yesteryear, but not me. They're just not the same company any more. Or at least the quality ain't there any more with the vast majority of their products, and we all know it.
Jo, you show me where you got the info that 5/10 SEs come with problems. I don't think you can. Yet the unbiased Viperkid calls your post "proof" ha ha ha ha whatever.
And Viperkid, Calm down fella you'll give yourself a heartattack. So, in you're usual polite, unbiased and friendly way, you said I'm wrong in saying that Sony is a reputable brand name and guarantees decent quality...erm, sorry, but you'll find I'm right on that one. oh, and I quote "how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony" ha ha ha ha Viperkid are you winding me up???? Say the following 2 words out loud: SONY Ericsson. Say it again Viperkid - SONY Ericsson. So, you tell me not to associate Sony with SE, you tell me Sony doesn't equate to a reputable brand name, you give a W800 (one of the best cameraphones available) to a child who drops it and wonder why the auto-focus gets broken, yet I associate Sony with SE and I'm the foolish one???? Reality check Viperkid.
The camera on the W800 is not "a piece of junk". You'll see from this GSMarena review http://www.gsmarena.com/review.php3?idReview=46&idPage=2 that the W800,K750,W900 & W810 camera beats the Nokia "flagship Carl Zeiss blah blah blah" camera hands down. So don't come here telling people who want unbiased advice that SE's are bad because you had the stupidity to give one to a child who broke it. And you're wrong about another thing. I became a D600 user as that was the best and most valuable handset available free of charge on my network's contract upgrade. I'd had my S700i for over a year and wanted to change it. I knew I'd get good money for the D600 on Ebay when the W900 was released. Then the W810 came along and yeah, although the screen is disappointing to me, this is what I reckon I'll have next. So there's an insight into my personal life for you viperkid, showing that yet again, you do not have a single clue what your talking about-so STOP making assumptions about people who you know nothing about ok?
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 29 Jan 2006
cheers jo! :)
another proof about a manufacturer's durability in their products!
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- Striker
- myX
- 29 Jan 2006
Casper & Bav:
It should be out in Europe around March.
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 29 Jan 2006
at last, EDGE on a walkman phone, i hope d phone's mem & sim's memory (in phonebook) can be shown at d same time and can save more than 1 on each field under a name unlike with previous models.
Aparadectos:
just tell me and explain seriously to me y am i biased as wat u said. give me examples of my previous posts that u think was biased. what i only said and will say is just the plain truth. i don't invent, imagine, censure any gadget or brand or even big up on something (evidently, a certain dude out there had an info b4 which he/she thought d 1st one to come up w/ such a function on a mobile phone but in d real world his/her info was not TRUE as a result, ended up ashamed) without any true basis (from trusted sources, etc) and/or enough experience on a product. wat do u want me to do, big up SE W900 against 6280 even the latter gives better encoding and decoding of videos (VGA of 6280 vs QVGA of W900) even W900 is absolutely more expensive?!?! pls let me remind u of d topic (since u've joined and startlingly called me biased) here it is:
"who can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video, bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
now tell me and point to me y r u calling me biased!
maybe a real hardcore SE fanatic (on this forum) u can really call biased, (just to justify his/her beloved brand) like:
"SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough."
"about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear.
how can you change from a w800 to e398 and call it reliable. and why the hell would you give a small child such an expensive phone. forget about phone quality, that is ust irresponsibility"
that's what u call biased. (again, those 2 last msgs r from a hardcore SE fanatic). probably by now u'll know 4sure what d word biased really is.. about problematic handsets, maybe ur right that nokia is d #1 list on it, but had it ever glimpse on ur mind in d long 7 years in a telecommunications field for a fact dat maybe bcoz nokia is d #1 handset maker and virtually has more than a quarter of d mobile phone market in d whole world! wat do u expect, SE having more problematic units than nokia even SE having a small market share compared to nokia. its just a simple statistic u know! with that said, perhaps we don't need to go by numbers... (w8, don't try to call me biased, otherwise prove it to me wat i have said in there is not true, then u can call me truly biased) peace out!
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- casper
- SXU
- 29 Jan 2006
this phone is way better than K750 for me, it's a lot nicer, does any1 know when it comes out in europe? and how good is the screen resolution?
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- Aparadectos
- nsG
- 29 Jan 2006
Viperkid, u r a hard core NOKIA fan and u r biased so as litle people,
i dont if u really convinced ut self of the NOKIA's high quality superiority, or u know its untrue and try to convince the others for it.
If u have any idea about what a mobile is and what determines its quality and why NOKIA is superior to this field than i chalenge u to enlighten me too, i ve been in the telecomunications field 7years and i know people that can give acces to the numbers of problematic handsets of NOKIA,SIEMENS,SE,SAMSUNG etc
guess wich company is in the first place?
NOKIA,
how ever i believe this prooves nothing,
but if u wish we go by numbers...
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- matt
- PGH
- 29 Jan 2006
i think it's a fantastic phone although i've never seen it before but i consider sony ericsson w810 as more fascination than nokia phone and i like the design that is simply gorgeous
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- jo
- Pv9
- 29 Jan 2006
"Can nokia offer that same guarantee and respected brand name?"
of course! they are the best in that. i seen nokia phones with 10 years old and still working!, and not one, LOTS!!
that SE can't do, 5/10 SE phones comes with problems.
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- bav
- mgc
- 28 Jan 2006
Hi can anyone tell me if this phone is coming out in Europe. Ive seen it on Carphone Warehouse website but i thought this was planned for America only ? Can someone correct me please?
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- Anonymous
- F9q
- 28 Jan 2006
this is gorge, its definitely the badger! it sneds shivers down my spine. Please put on a picture of the 'fusion white' model! Cheers
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- rob
- QSc
- 28 Jan 2006
I see this phone being sold on ebay. But I thought that it is not released yet, how can that be possible? I also asked a seller if I need to wait for it to be released until they ship it, but he said that he has it available now. Are these legitimate phones? Would appreciat it if someone could shed some light on the issue.
Thanks,
Rob
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- viperkid
- TSF
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience. again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video,
bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!!") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer
you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of d above SUBJECT). how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em. how can u unwisely say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality if only a drop of (W800) [relatively not that high] and camera = piece of junk, plus d fact dat millions of
nokia users can't b wrong about d build quality of nokia dat's y nokia has more customers dan SE cuz dey know from their experiences who makes more durable units. i agree w/ u, about u striker not to waste ur time hir, u know y? cuz ur "LOST" and out of d topic. at least u admitted dat W810 is a disappointment and added SE's screens r not dt good (and obviously became a Samsung D600 user). since ur out of d topic, i'll ride with u 4 a wyl, u don't understand nokia's policy on their announce-release, dey're doing it for us, so we'll know d upcoming
models by a certain time and not be tricked by SE by offering quite a few models only targetted at a small market contrary with nokia dat gives more choices 4 different market segments (e.g 73xx for fashionistas, Nseries for high quality multimedia features [each with specialty] (apparently for "technoids" lyk u striker), Eseries & 95xx for businessmen, et al) these also explains y there r so many "coming soon" currently and besides (don't get me wrong) dey r d no. 1 handset maker, wat do u expect! slating is different from subjective
comparison. im not wasting my tym, its kinda like d opposite, get a grip. i'll tell u, SE is d 1 misleading u by releasing new models with almost d same features (e.g. K750, W800, W810) those 3 models from left to right had only a few tweaks and minor differences on their design. dat's y u just apparently resorted to Samsung D600.
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- Air-ic
- ijJ
- 28 Jan 2006
its a cool phone...id like to hav it
but even though SE is pretty good....
in india its not got such a fan followin
cud anybody tell me y???
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- charles
- TKb
- 28 Jan 2006
wow, come on guys... The is no point for us argue over this... Chill out a little...
Cut the story short, se got its good and bad n so as nokia... It just the matter whether the phone suits u or not...
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- viperkid
- PRQ
- 28 Jan 2006
Ken2.5:
w900 came out initially at $900++, and absolutely not d "people" as u said, who had early access to it but WElectronics had that price! i know u know that (ur just denying it). in fact, u have confirmed and declared dat matter urself:
"those were just people who had early access to the phone and wanted to make a quick buck"
oh well. those opinions of urs are for die hard SE fanatics (especially: "about hearing, your friend can ust use his speakerphone if he is deaf in his one ear") not all d time u can use speakerphone u also know dat (wen u want privacy) who r willing to sacrifice real phone features and exchange for "so-so phone features". well quality is quality, he had his (my nephew) E398 for quite some time now and dropped it for many times at higher places and its still working fine! SE fanatics are biased, wen K750 arrived some of u r saying wow K750 has 2mpx its d best and it has auto focus unlike with other phones, but when SE has inferior screen to the other manufacturers all u want to say is (just to justify ur beloved brand):
"SE will have 16m colours in their phones when they feel that it is a neccesity. what is the point of having 16m colour on a tiny screen. anyway on a small screen 256k is enough."
oh look who's talking men!
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- viperkid
- PRQ
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience! again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video,
bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!! ") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer
you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of
d above SUBJECT)! how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em! how can u idiotically say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality if only a drop of (W800) [relatively not that high] and camera = piece of junk, plus d fact dat millions of nokia users can't b wrong about d build quality of nokia dat's y nokia has more customers dan SE cuz dey know from their experiences who makes
more durable units. i agree w/ u, about u striker not to waste ur time hir, u know y? cuz ur "LOST" and out of d topic! at least u admitted dat W810 is a disappointment and added SE's screens r not dt good (and obviously became a Samsung D600 user). since ur out of d topic, i'll ride with u 4 a wyl, u don't understand nokia's policy on their
announce-release, dey're doing it for us, so we'll know d upcoming models by a certain time and not be tricked by SE by offering quite a few models only targetted at a small market contrary with nokia dat gives more choices 4 different market segments (e.g 73xx for fashionistas, Nseries for high quality multimedia features [each with specialty] (apparently for "technoids" lyk u striker), Eseries & 95xx for businessmen, et al) these also explains y there r so many "coming soon" currently and besides (don't get me wrong) dey r d no. 1 handset
maker, wat do u expect! slating is different from subjective comparison. im not wasting my tym, its kinda like d opposite, get a
grip! i'll tell u, SE is d 1 misleading u by releasing new models with almost d same features (e.g. K750, W800, W810) those 3 models from left to right had only a few tweaks and minor differences on their design! dat's y u just apparently resorted to Samsung D600!
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- Anonymous
- TSF
- 28 Jan 2006
Striker:
re my last msg, i did not slate SE, wat i said there is just the plain truth and based on my experience! again, ur out of d point of discussion here and say over and over again about how nokia behaves in releasing their phones, remember wer comparing who:
"can give/offer mediocrity and/or average of everything (e.g. sound quality, processing speed, screen colour/pixel, build, video, bluetooth, interface, etc, etc)"
in a mobile phone. im not trying to cover myself by saying 6280 as an example, my point there was (as u said, "OF COURSE IT IS CHEAPER IT'S A NOKIA!!!!!! ") then y for a fact its cheaper than W900 and still offer you better video encoding/decoding, a VGA vs QVGA by W900 (take note of d above SUBJECT)! how many times do i have to tell u this, stop comparing SE to Sony, they're not the same company, and if ever SE set their price its not Sony alone who decides, both of em! how can u idiotically say that SE gives that bit extra for a reputable brand name and guaranteed decent quality
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- robbo
- nEP
- 27 Jan 2006
i have this phone and it is excellent i have a 2 gig card in it with plenty videos and about 300 songs the phone has not slowed down one bit i also have hundreds of games on it in my oppinon this si the phone to get its stylish cool to have and has all the features u need for everyday life music pictures contacts lol its mint
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- Evaldas LTU
- ntW
- 27 Jan 2006
Perfect, but i live in estonia, and there is no gsm networks :((