Sony Xperia 1 II
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  • Dark Souls
  • ke5
  • 30 Apr 2020

Sony Xperia 1 Mark ll is a flagship phone when announced, not that much truth to it if this is available for the public after 2020

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    • Anonymous
    • 7Ae
    • 30 Apr 2020

    Vasra, 30 Apr 2020Sure. I have sony TVs, Sony headphones, Sony camers. But... moreYou havent seen the new tech like camera software, so you are talking "smack" like an uneducated person

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      • YogiBear83
      • 8j%
      • 30 Apr 2020

      Anonymous, 30 Apr 2020Yeah XZ2/XZ3 camera is great when you take high frequency i... moreWhen I edit photo "curves" in Album app save resolution is the same.
      First photo I have edit in FastSoneImageViewer (noise reduction), second in Album App.
      First one can be downsampled from 17mpx to 12mpx and noise will be less.

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        • Anonymous
        • LHe
        • 30 Apr 2020

        YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020Manual mode is very nice feature. I can get sometimes nice ... moreYeah XZ2/XZ3 camera is great when you take high frequency images cause it hides that grain pretty well. Also when you do edits in Album app and save it you get lower resolution than original, that is most apparent when you crop. If you want a good crop then do it in Sketch.

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          • Bakerloo1906
          • EFP
          • 30 Apr 2020

          YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020it should be "software noise reduction" not "software nice ... moreIt's the same

            Vineet Reddy, 16 Apr 2020You have to know that they are years ahead where it really ... moreSure.
            I have sony TVs, Sony headphones, Sony camers.
            But the crap in their smarphones is MOSTLY outdated by 1 year or 2.
            Esp. Camera, SoC and memory tech :-D

              YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020Manual mode is very nice feature. I can get sometimes nice ... moreI know, Ive been playing with my wifes XZ2, same camera. Its a Great camera, can make some really great shots and video, its got autoHDR for photo and video too.

              Anyways, PhotoPro has also an Auto mode besides P/M/S manuals, CinemaPro also has auto options, so I dont see a need for the usual type android cam app on mk II anymore...as it is inferior.
              Well, maybe for those numerous effects and night modes, and other stuff kids love.
              But, flag Xperias are not focused on that type of consumer anyway, but for content creators.

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                • YogiBear83
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                • 30 Apr 2020

                YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020Manual mode is very nice feature. I can get sometimes nice ... moreit should be "software noise reduction" not "software nice reduction" XD :D

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                  • YogiBear83
                  • 8j%
                  • 30 Apr 2020

                  Tann Hauser, 30 Apr 2020Sony should remove the old camera app, and leave only Photo... moreManual mode is very nice feature. I can get sometimes nice shots at night (XZ3):
                  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ef3b300c5fb5ae99cc779a99d28837c7c83041116c3334fabf12dd47de001302.jpg (11pm, manual, ISO400, 1/16)
                  https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8124e7c6578ad0394fec9596ab0a0708114f7db8a2e9152f6bb40762eb97f9f4.jpg (software nice reduction)
                  Another example is when photos are overexposure (Auto XZ3):
                  https://ibb.co/Yj4FB68
                  Then go to Edit (in Album) and chose "curves" (and change values - grab on the upper right and go little down, grab down left and little up) and after 5 seconds you will get better contrast and look:
                  https://ibb.co/km7rZJs

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                    • benjmd
                    • fn1
                    • 30 Apr 2020

                    Can we just take a break from commenting on a device that is yet to be released and wait for the reviews?! Damn, from the hype, specifications and design, it seems Sony has attracted quite a number of fans apart from the diehard ones, unfortunately it’s market is going to be limited.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • CGH
                      • 30 Apr 2020

                      YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020Its Samsung troll (something like Microsoft trolls - even i... moreDxomark tests only auto capabilities of smartphones..their testing protocols is very limited because of overall score evaluations. For me the best camera is what's in your hand..and sometimes manual mode just makes you different.

                        YogiBear83, 30 Apr 2020Its Samsung troll (something like Microsoft trolls - even i... moreSony should remove the old camera app, and leave only Photo Pro and Cinema Pro...
                        so finally laim DxO would have no "excuse" not to test Xperias camera by its autoHDR photo and video results.

                        In the end, maybe nothing would help with DxO Xperia scoring, as they ve already been caught faking its results ( Xperia 1 zoom in patricular)...

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                          • YogiBear83
                          • 8j%
                          • 30 Apr 2020

                          Rakaloah, 30 Apr 2020I've got a Canon 70D DSLR and guess what, it has only 20.2 ... moreIts Samsung troll (something like Microsoft trolls - even if Xbox is rip they will still say that PS is wrong). Posting rules say "No trolling - deliberately antagonizing other brand/model users".
                          I want good quality, and no hype. For me hype is waiting for Sony Alfa 7Sm3 - because its really "hype" device. If I want ultra quality of videos I take alfa 7Sm2 and shot and night.

                          PS Its funny that dxmark say that iPhone XS have 106p and XZ3 have 79. Ive tested both phones and sometimes XZ3 makes better photos. iPhone dosent have manual settings and 106p?

                            Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020too much confusion bro! higher refresh rate, higher resolu... moreI've got a Canon 70D DSLR and guess what, it has only 20.2 megapixels.
                            A Canon 5D Mark IV (~$2500) has "pathetic" 30.4 megapixels.
                            Can you say a 108MP phone camera is like 3~5 times better than a DSLR?
                            Or, why people would buy a 30MP DSLR instead of a 40~108MP mobile phone? Phones are much cheaper and have more juicy pixels.
                            Meditate on this.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • uEC
                              • 29 Apr 2020

                              i don't think VW care which one have better car since VW also owned bugatti and plenty of other brands :D as long as VW still get the money, all good i guess

                              any updates when sony would release this phone?

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                                • Anonymous
                                • JT5
                                • 29 Apr 2020

                                Dear @SLSA

                                Did you see battery test of OP8 Pro?

                                60Hz = 12:28h web brownsing + 16:58h video playback
                                120Hz = 10:03h web browsing + 14:19h video playback

                                Standby time at 120Hz loses 4:45h compared to 60Hz. Total test was 9h weaker.

                                :)

                                  Anonymous, 28 Apr 20201)Lies 2)More lies 3)another lie. Whatever makes you s... moreWhen you can't debate like a gentle man, all one can call others is lies.

                                    Anonymous, 29 Apr 2020Lol are you saying Sony is Buggati and Chinese flagships li... moreWe are talking about companies here. Not products. And yes, have you ever seen Bugatti making an economical car at the price range of VW polo??? Of course volkswagen can build both economical cars and super cars but still Bugatti is Bugatti, Ferrari is Ferrari, Volkswagen is volkswagen :). You just can't compare among them. Everything is great for its price range. I'm not talking about products here. But saying VW is better than Ferrari based on number of cars sold is just straight on stupidity. That's my point.

                                      Smithravi, 29 Apr 20201. What part of my english don't you understand?? Anyone wi... morePS: If I am given an option to choose 8bit+FRC from Sony or OnePlus. I will go with Sony blindly because I trust them as they have already tech used in their TVs/Monitors and it produced accurate colours.

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • JT5
                                        • 29 Apr 2020

                                        IMX557 has readout more than 200% faster than Isocell HM1 12MP mode.