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  • Anonymous
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  • 29 Apr 2020

SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 29 Apr 2020SmithRavi can't stop shil*ing for Sony. Always making excus... moreDid you ever think your emotion based replies come off a little pretentious? We all understand they have low sales, but it seems a liitle sociopathic to assume your opinion is necessary to ensure fans of Sony will be aware you dont respect the company. There are people blind to companies shortcomings that post on forums, but it makes more sense than these heated insults. Simply go with your preferred phone manufacturer.

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    • Anonymous
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    • 29 Apr 2020

    With this specification and the price, i think it's relative cheap for me

      I found some videos
      https://youtu.be/QEesIWK_6Zk That burst shot looks promising. I can finally take pictures of my cat.
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        • YogiBear83
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        • 29 Apr 2020

        SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 29 Apr 2020*typo. My reply was for the guy who claimed Xperia 1 had t... moreDo you know whats mean "Panel drive"?
        More bits means only more brightness levels of grayscale - you achieve [specific] color by mixing diferent [levels of brightnes] subpixels.
        Any HDR10 display use 10-bit drive.
        Remember -> levels of brightness.

          Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020I completely agree, however you are wasting your time on hi... moreSmithRavi can't stop shil*ing for Sony. Always making excuses for shortcomings of Sony and dragging the S20 ultra unnecessarily into the conversation randomly.
          He is the one on this forum who can't accept any criticism against his favorite brand.

          Never said the product was rubbish.
          But simple statements like "most ppl gonna buy other phones at that price" are triggering a lot of users over here and they come out with all their hostility. I think these guys need to learn to take constructice criticism.

            Exyvia, 28 Apr 2020It's FRC not CFR 8-bit + FRC is perceptually identical f... more*typo.
            My reply was for the guy who claimed Xperia 1 had true 10bit display.
            And the other guy chipped in with his own 2 cents
            I stand correct as it's not a true 10bit panel. Period!

            Don't bother replying unless you are following the thread of the conversation.

              Smithravi, 28 Apr 2020I guess you completely ignored my other comment where I bas... more1) is anyone taking that 4K60hz option away from you if other resolution with higher refresh rate options are provided? Just answer the goddamn question! You don't speak for other users. You also don't decide who this phone is marketed for. So keep your garbage to yourself. Plenty of ppl run games at Lower resolution as 4K60 for games consume too much battery.

              2) QHD@120HZ doesn't consume more battery than 4K60hz.
              It's similar battety consumption. In fact during gaming on Xperia 1, it's more as more frames have to be pushed by gpu.

              3) No need for side by side comparison. Easily ppl can notice difference between 120hz and 60hz on smartphones. Get your sensory organs checked and stop making excuses.
              And Plz stop with the lies about 90hz. It's software based. It's basically gimmicky and not even close to experiencing unlocked native higher refresh rate displays.

              Just like virtual RAM won't ever be considered part of Dedicated RAM.
              8BIT with FRC won't ever be same as 10bit.
              My statement stands that it's not true 10 bit display.

              Even in other statement, you simply refuse to accept results of proprietary Chinese fast charging technology.You'll continue to believe what you feel and blow your own horn. You have a huge problem with Facts. Don't be so delusional. Last Time I heard, they stopped selling Sony phones in India.

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                • Anonymous
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                • 28 Apr 2020

                Smithravi, 28 Apr 2020I guess you completely ignored my other comment where I bas... more1)Lies
                2)More lies
                3)another lie.

                Whatever makes you sleep at night.

                  Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020well... i can't believe i have to use one of the trump expr... moreI know. My explanation is for everyone in general.

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                    • Anonymous
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                    • 28 Apr 2020

                    Smithravi, 28 Apr 2020Unfortunately, that's how These chinese companies and Samsu... morewell... i can't believe i have to use one of the trump expression...
                    i was being sarcastic. maybe it's too confusing being sarcastic on writing :D
                    but yeah, my point was too majority of the people in the world, it's cool to riding the hype yo

                      [deleted post]Yeah, watching the reports too.
                      What a debacle.
                      Well, as long as they did that marketing through the notorious Display Mate, they ll hopefully sell some devices...
                      Go for this device, there is a good reason why Sony keeps oled at lower but sufficient brightness levels, and why it doesnt use DMate for marketing.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 28 Apr 2020

                        Looks like haters do not know that this phone would never be able to do 20 fps AF if it had 16, 20, 27, 40, or 100MP.
                        They do not know 20MP takes more time to process than 12.

                        Sony uses 23, they complain and say 12 is enough.
                        Sony uses 12, they complain and say 108 is necessary.

                        When XZ series had 13Mp selfoe, they said 7 was enough.
                        Now sony uses 8, they want 20, 32 or 40.

                          Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020too much confusion bro! higher refresh rate, higher resolu... moreUnfortunately, that's how These chinese companies and Samsung are able to sell their mobiles even though they are not the best mobiles in the market. People easily fall for the hype and number Gimmicks These days. They don't care how good it is or how useful it is. These companies are rubbing their interests on peoples and getting away with it. From Whether it could be Puncholes or notches to the 16Gb rams and 120Hz refresh rates (Gaming mobiles even have 144Hz).

                          When you think about, do you really need those numbers ??? Does they make your mobile flagship or premium??

                          Higher refresh rate is good (it is just Animation that makes you feel your mobile is fast even though it isn't). But to what extent?? It consumes your batettry like hell. One reason why gaming mobiles or Laptops doesnt last Long. But nobody calls them premium or flagship.

                          Higher Resolution is good, but ppi also matters. Sony has great Display. Even 2020 flagships have QHD as Minimum spec. I won't be surprised if they follow sony from next year.

                          Higher brightness on LCD is fine but on OLED it is actually very bad. It will give you non accurate Colours and makes your phone get burn ins faster. (I'm Pretty sure u want to use your flaghsip for at least 2 years before buying another., don't fall for higher nits). Reason why sony also Limits its brigthness range is due to its Goal to produce accurate Colours at all brightness levels. Also it saves your OLED from burns, at least for longer period.

                          Higher contrast Needs excellent HDR, higher bits (like 10,12,14 bits) means more Colours and Display should be able to cover many Colours gamouts (Sony Xperias are the only mobiles to cove many gamouts and higher percentage than other mobiles.)

                          If you have read my other comment on rams, you won't be Talking like this. Last year 6GB Xperia and 4GB iPhone performed onpar with 12GB ram samsung and OnePlus in speed test. This also proves how crap Samsung and OP ram management is. Anything over 8GB ram is nonsense (even with 3 chrome tabs open) today. Over 12GB is stupidity and where Mr.Silly lives

                          Higher Megapixels are great for Details, but it also gets you more noise when you can't process it well like now Happening in S20 Ultra. Remember how DSLR does great even with lesser MP??

                          Slower charge is good for your Long term battery life. No matter what People tell you (especially chinese), if you want to use your mobile for morethan 3 years, 65W charging will deteriates your bettery or batteries. Ever wondered why Apple/ Sony don't go for those supe Ultra fast charging even though they spend morethan 1 Billion on R&D each year??? They are not stupid.

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 28 Apr 2020

                            Smithravi, 28 Apr 2020I guess you completely ignored my other comment where I bas... moreI completely agree, however you are wasting your time on him/her. Anybody who goes to a forum meant for people who are considering buying the phone just to say the product is rubbish and expensive (constructive criticism would be ok) without having tested it themselves is not going to be convinced by logic. I am interested however in which phone the said person is considering buying, as needs information about, as to direct them to the correct forum

                              SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 27 Apr 2020Hey confused guy, Sony already has the 4k panel with 120hz ... moreI guess you completely ignored my other comment where I basically explained you why it is stupidity to have many options in one mobile. Reason
                              1. When you're buying 4K, you are paying for 4K Display, why do you want to use Full HD or QHD Display?? Makes no sense. Similarly, when you are willing to pay for QHD at 120Hz, then you should use it, not Full HD to save battery because you already Paid for that feature in first place.
                              2. QHD at 120Hz consumes more battery than 4K at 60Hz. You can see the battery life of Xperia 1 with 3300mAh performed on par/ sometimes better than with FHD 90Hz mobiles.
                              3. Sony 4K display is with 90Hz equivalant (they clearly mentioned it). So you are basically getting 90Hz as well as 4K. Why are you crying About 120Hz, I still don't understand. As I said again, one won't be able to tell the differece when given two refresh rate mobiles "separately" inlcuding you. Not side by side. Nobody uses two mobiles side by side in two Hands unless he is a Reviewer. Only then you will notice the difference.

                              Xperia 1 10bit true or not or Software simulated doesn't matter, You will be able to get 1B Colours, that's what 10bit means. Though it might not have exact/same colours like Hardware 10bit, Software 10 bit mimics those Colours. That's what it is.

                              And you still evading my Price comparison. Tell me who will spend 1070 Euros on OP8 Pro with baggage and 1500 Euros on DJ Auto focussing S20 Ultra? Don't you think Xperia 1 II even at aussmed 1200 Euros Price range makes more sense than other two?? Real life Performance, ofcourse everyone should wait and see, but I'm pretty sure even on papers, X1 II makes more sense than other chinese/Samsung mobiles.

                                SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 28 Apr 2020That is not true 10 bit. Just like other phones do 8bit wi... moreIt's FRC not CFR

                                8-bit + FRC is perceptually identical from 10-bit when done correctly. Given the distance from your face to the screen, you definitely do not want to pay extra for a true 10 bit display if there's an alternate solution.

                                Anyways, if you do want true 10 bit, to take advantage of it, you'll need to professionally calibrating the screen too or else there's really no point in getting it over 8 bit + 2.

                                  YogiBear83, 28 Apr 2020Do you know whats mean dithering (Dither)? U can achive 14-... moreThat is not true 10 bit.
                                  Just like other phones do 8bit with CFR and label it 10 bit. It's not true 10 bit display.
                                  Just like 8gb dedicated RAM with 2gb virtual RAM won't be considered total of 10gb RAM.
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                                    • YogiBear83
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                                    • 28 Apr 2020

                                    Telephone, 28 Apr 2020Dithering uses software algorithm to simulate a desired col... moreExacly.
                                    Another part is that, you can achive some colors by "flashing sub-sub pixels by diferent
                                    frequency". If you look on VA display under microscope (I do that) and pause signal you will see that (some VA panels etc Sony XG95 have additional square subpixels above normal subpixels) subpixels are flashing with diferent frequency to achive anothers colors. Example: when you will flashing blue color then this color is less bright and you can achive another color by mixing this with another color.
                                    The same you will see on plasma panels (that can do 12-bit). Hitachi and Pioneer have many patents about this.
                                    Sony F65 is first camera that have diamond shape Bayer RGB (with additional Green subpixel - twice pixels like normal 4K) and then Samsung make something similar in OLED displays.
                                    https://www.personal-view.com/talks/uploads/FileUpload/c3/78be934d8b1acc600626dd50ed59db.jpg
                                    https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-eBT4wI2knWg/VTt03wBSuBI/AAAAAAAAMJY/DBCMuRWNX7M/s1600/Wikileaks+Sony-8.JPG

                                      Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020too much confusion bro! higher refresh rate, higher resolu... moreMore megapixels doesn't mean better.
                                      8K recording isn't better than 4k recording.

                                      It depends on your use case. You cant have fast auto focus if your computing that much details, hence the huge crop in Samsung's sensor when recording, the lost of stabilisation and more.

                                      Sony's doing the camera correctly with larger pixels 2 microns compared 1.8 on S20+ and about 10% more light with the lower F stop.

                                        Anonymous, 28 Apr 2020too much confusion bro! higher refresh rate, higher resolu... moreHigh refresh rate: Not everyone needs it, 60hz is enough
                                        High resolution: Its already one of the top, behind Z5 XZP XZ2P
                                        High brightness: current OLED material limit brightness, more voltage = brighter but burns out quicker
                                        Color accuracy: It's good, we are not photo editing, it doesn't need to be perfect
                                        RAM: This is not a desktop. Its a smartphone. Anything over 8gb is a waste of money. (what's the point if all of it is not going to be used?)(some flagships have LPDDR4X, inferior to LPDDR5)
                                        Megapixel: Too much MP = slower. IMX557 has a larger pixel size = more light
                                        Charger: Limited to prolong battery life, its already fast enough

                                        It's a good phone
                                        I just care about the experience, specs are just numbers anyways. You never know until you try one. You like it, you get it. You don't, then don't.

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