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Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2020I do think so. As I am already complaining. Xperia 1mkII... moreI think I am fine with having 12GB or more if the software is optimized to utilize it fully to the extent where going with lesser RAM makes negative impact on performance and smoothness of phone. What good is 12GB or even 16GB RAM if the software is not well optimized to utilize it perfectly and get delayed transition or stutter.

Price, I completely agree it is bit over priced. I am ready to pay for it but not wholeheartedly. We don't have much option here as rest of the offerings from other brands are not as good as this.
Apple again ruined consumers with high priced models. Hate Apple for that.

    1200 euro for an xperia?
    Better buy galaxy, it's the safest and best option.

      Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020Will you complain tomorrow when Sony launches next year's m... moreI do think so.
      As I am already complaining.
      Xperia 1mkII is too expensive, just as all other flagship phones. And there is quite an obvious reason behind it... one of them being unlogical unecessary amount of excessive RAM, that is put inside phones just as a marketing selling point, without any justifiable reason to end user experience benefit.
      And I am sure Sony will out a 12 gb ram phone, not because it is actually needed in any foreseable future, but only because global phone market rules force them.
      And will be even more expensive...

      But Sony makes the only flagship model phones today I myself consider the most complete smartphone solutions. So Im forced, in a way, to pay up for it, when a new phone will be needed.

        Anonymous, 10 Apr 2020Will you complain tomorrow when Sony launches next year's m... moreYou don't get the point. Okay 12GB Memory is available, do you think SAMSUNG, LG, OnePlus, Xiaomi or any other brand can optimize the software in a way that it really makes difference over SONY 8GB Memory. If you think I am not making any sense, look back to previous implementations. Since the days of SD 820 SAMSUNG and OnePlus always had more Memory than SONY but how it was implemented and utilized is questionable. Even with lesser memory SONY always had better management than SAMSUNG and even OnePlus. We are not saying 12GB is pointless, we are saying that if not implemented and utilized correctly then why even provide 12GB.

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          AnonD-923639, 09 Apr 2020Its called google search genius. Hey genius, even after using Google, no forums or users found who complain about battery degradation on OnePlus, Huawei, Oppo which have now provided 30-40W charging for 2-3 years now.

          So gimme a proper link showing Chinese flagships suffering battery degradation due to fast charging or learn take off your tin foil hat before vomiting out lies.

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            • 10 Apr 2020

            Tann Hauser, 10 Apr 2020Your reply is a gimmick see... something just put there, fo... moreWill you complain tomorrow when Sony launches next year's model with 12gb RAM?
            I DON'T THINK SO!

            If the user is given an option of 8gb/12gb, I can understand since prices will be low for 8gb version. But here 8gb Xperia 1 II costing same as 12gb S20 & Find X2 Pro.

              Anonymous, 09 Apr 202012gb RAM is not gimmick, it's futureproofing. Sticking to ... moreYour reply is a gimmick see... something just put there, for the sake of reply itself, but not useful to anyone.

              Go enjoy those 12 gb ram, on a phone, in its fully potent 6 gb maxout glory...

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                • 09 Apr 2020

                Anonymous, 09 Apr 202012gb RAM is not gimmick, it's futureproofing. Sticking to ... moreThen why not 32gb? Better yet, 64gb would futureproof it. With refresh, anything under 300hz is a gimmick

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                  • 09 Apr 2020

                  No doubt It is absolutely a Great phone but now a days iPhone is having greater demand.

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                    Anonymous, 09 Apr 2020Research papers are for weak 18W charging. Do you have rese... moreIts called google search genius.

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                      AnonD-923639, 09 Apr 2020Ya. Research papers on this subject proving its harder on t... moreResearch papers are for weak 18W charging. Do you have research papers that 65W VOOC charging technology on Oppo is detoriating battery health? Do you? Keep your fear mongering to yourself.
                      Sony simply behind the curve.

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                        AlexP, 09 Apr 2020Oppo find x2 pro has 65w charger, because it has 2 batterie... moreEither ways it charges 3 times faster than Sony.

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                          Tann Hauser, 09 Apr 2020No smartphone device needs 12 gb, let alone 16 gb ram. Its ... more12gb RAM is not gimmick, it's futureproofing.
                          Sticking to 4k@60hz screen is a gimmick.
                          Not giving 120hz refresh rate out of the box is gimmick.

                            DantE O2, 09 Apr 2020my UHD tv shows my imax movies at 3840x 2160p what about y... moreAny 21:9 aspect 4k movie you download is reproduced at 3840x1600 res, be it your UHD TV or UltraWide WQHD+ monitor....
                            4K is not a standard but a nominer, standards are exactly res specified, and numerous standards belong in a range of industry claimed 8k, 5k, 4k, 2k, or fHD, HD nominers...

                            See here an example of what LG calls 5k (NOT 4K!) Ultrawide, and how the reporter calls it 4.5K(as it is not standardized):
                            https://9to5mac.com/2017/12/21/lg-announces-drool-worthy-34-inch-ultrawide-4-5k-monitor-w-thunderbolt-3/


                            Its Exactly the same nomenclature story as here, just upped by 1K res size, and is definitely not defined, by either, as 4K, as you would like it to be.
                            So you would also call out LG, Acer, etc..., like Sony here, for falsely naming their monitors as 5K, when they are just, by your opinion 21:9 4K ?

                            On subject, If it reproduces 4K res media, it is a 4K screen. Be it 21:9 4K movies or series from amazon, netflix or whatever, Cinema 21:9 movies you watch on your UHD standardized 4K res TV, or 4k 16:9 youtube content when cropped to 21:9.

                            If you quarell that this res screen cant reproduce 16:9 4K content in full 1:1, you are right, but then again your 4K UHD cant reproduce 21:9 5120 x 2160 resolution content (you claim to be real ultrawide 4K, and LG claims to be 5K) in 1:1 either, so it really isnt a proper 4K TV either in same manner of logic.

                            At the end, Sony doesnt claim is screen to be UHD, but 4K. And they are absolutely right about it.

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                              • 09 Apr 2020

                              Sony, no baloney. Anxious to get this one.

                                DantE O2, 09 Apr 2020my UHD tv shows my imax movies at 3840x 2160p what about y... moreUnless all the movies you have are 16:9 cropped, I asked about 21:9 full Cinemascope resolution. Well the 21:9 on 3840x2160 will be around 3840x1600 which is considered as 4K Ultrawide Cinemascope resolution.

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                                  Anonymous, 04 Apr 2020Japan = abril Europe = may USA = june Thanks

                                    Vineet Reddy, 09 Apr 2020It is called UW4K resolution for a reason. https://www.goo... morecorrect ultrawide 4k is almost same as ultrawide QHD and is far less than ultrawide UHD that's what i been saying for a long time now. and 4k is not a standard is a naming sake.
                                    about standards it's not about being close or far it either fulfills or is less when it doesn't fulfill it belongs to lower standard. simple as that,

                                      Vineet Reddy, 09 Apr 2020First tell me do you own 4K TV. If yes do watch 4K Cinemasc... moremy UHD tv shows my imax movies at 3840x 2160p
                                      what about you?
                                      it also shows my own shot videos with my sony camera at 3840x2160
                                      any other questions?
                                      tell me the resolution a sony bluray player renders at. ofc 3840x2160 not even 1 pixels less.

                                        DantE O2, 09 Apr 2020you are a big joke ofc anything less than 2160p is not uhd,... moreFirst tell me do you own 4K TV. If yes do watch 4K Cinemascope 21:9 movies in it. If yes What resolution do you think you are watching at. If you can answer that correctly then that solves the long argument.