Sony Xperia 1 II
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Mar 2020
Info that phone would be 1200 euros has been removed by Sony Europe.
According to info shared by Reddit users, for example in Romania it is expected to be 1020 euros. In China, price may be 6999, that translates to 1010 dollars.
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- Tominson
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- 14 Mar 2020
AlexP, 13 Mar 2020Really, I don't care. This phone is better than SamsungThis phone is not even realeased yet, but your saying how great it is...Your so funnny....
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 13 Mar 2020Only ROG 2 has true 10bit display. Rest of 2019 flasghips h... morePage of XZ2 has 10bit listed, but not 8+2 like Xperia 1.
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- 14 Mar 2020
AlexP, 13 Mar 2020Really, I don't care. This phone is better than SamsungWe all know.
Even Samsung does.
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- AnonD-921183
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- 13 Mar 2020
YUKI93, 13 Mar 2020I agree with you about the difference between 60Hz and 120H... moreBut actually it is Sony that is stick with 12MP and increased the sensor size 1/1.7. It is biggest till now by any flagship. But samsung used 108MP instead of direct 12MP only to publicize that to record poor 8k video (8k requires minimum mp like >32MP ) and yeah 100X zoom with poor quality. Of course that digital zoom is okayish at 20x zoom but still Sony provides 3x mechanical zoom compared to 2x Samsung. Even hardware wise Sony did innovation aimed at user needs not unnecessary features like 100x zoom or 16GB rams. Smartphones will never replace cameras or laptops. 1500$ for unnecessary needs. Hmm. I see deception.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 13 Mar 2020Yes. With 8+2 the Xperia can display 10bit content despite... moreOnly ROG 2 has true 10bit display. Rest of 2019 flasghips have 8bit+CFR.
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- AlexP
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- 13 Mar 2020
Anonymous, 13 Mar 2020Because it is true. Xperia 1, 5 and 1 ii use oled from ... moreReally, I don't care. This phone is better than Samsung
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Mar 2020
Pro may cost $200-300 more than Xperia 1 II ...
And available in restricted markets , mainly USA.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Mar 2020
AlexP, 13 Mar 2020So funny, because some of the trolls said Samsung made disp... moreBecause it is true.
Xperia 1, 5 and 1 ii use oled from Samsung.
While XZ3 uses oled from LG.
Screen of 10 ii is unknown yet.
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Mar 2020
Tominson, 13 Mar 2020Did you even read what I wrote ? ... "Numerous phone major ... moreYes. With 8+2 the Xperia can display 10bit content despite not being native 10bit.
The other phones can not. They do not have have these "2" extra .
Galaxy, Iphone, Pixel etc will downgrade a 10bit content to 8bit ...
Ative 10bit screen would be much more expensive.
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- 13 Mar 2020
AnonD-921183, 13 Mar 2020I completely disagree. Unless you have owned a Sony Xperia ... moreI agree with you about the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz, cannot even slightly notice any notable difference between the two at all on daily use unless if you do mobile gaming.
As for that 108MP, I'm sorry to say this but that is far from a gimmick. The current generation of pixel binning allows the combination of neighbouring native pixel to create one giant effective pixel when binned to the recommended resolution. So what started out as 108MP 0.8 native micron pixel image will become a 12MP 2.4 effective micron pixel if you allow pixel binning, and 2.4 micron pixel is something that you would normally see on a 1-inch camera. I'm guessing that the reason why Samsung is sticking to 12MP is that it's the ideal resolution for today's smartphones.
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AnonD-754814, 13 Mar 2020I guess you didn't quiet understand my logic. The summary... moreI completely disagree. Unless you have owned a Sony Xperia with 4K HDR Display, you are just assuming it. I can say samething for 120Hz. Unless you Play with notification bar and scroll the pages up and down 24/7, you don't even notice any difference betwen 60Hz and 120hz. Also 8K without HDR is Money grabbing. 108MP with Pixel binning tech (equivalant to 12MP cam) is Gimmick. 16GB ram is only needed when the sofwatre is laggy on 8GB ram which means bad ram Management unlike Apple/Sony. Which is why latter always use small rams yet they are fast.
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AlexP, 13 Mar 2020So funny, because some of the trolls said Samsung made disp... moreActually I didn't find any evidence of that. So, I won't say that Samsung made it.
Most possible is LG or Sharp made it.
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- 13 Mar 2020
AnonD-754814, 13 Mar 2020I guess you didn't quiet understand my logic. The summary... moreSo funny, because some of the trolls said Samsung made display for Xperia 1
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- Tann Hauser
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Tominson, 13 Mar 2020No matter how much proof is presented to you, you will simp... moreNo problem fella.
Only thing you are dishonest about, is having proof beyond any doubt. But you do not even doubt, and didnt offer me any proof...
So why exactly are we beating around bushes here?
You, as me too, just dont know whose screen exactly is in this device..., based only on some news articles, it could be Samsungs, LGs, etc, or even by new line from JOLED.
End of story.
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TheGoldenMellifluous, 13 Mar 2020If Sony division of Imaging Sensor is worse than Samsung, t... moreI guess you didn't quiet understand my logic.
The summary is ,
Samsung isn't using 4k display because they don't feel it is worth anything over the QHD for that small screen.
It's not because Samsung can't.
Now Sony didn't make 108MP because they didn't feel it is much better. It's not because they can't.
The guy whom I replied said Samsung can't make 4k displays. This is why I gave that example.
Are you that guy ?
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Tann Hauser, 13 Mar 2020Oh man, are you thick.
When talking about nits living up... more10,000 nits is for Dolby Vision, not regular HDR.
And also HDR brightness is different for OLED and LCD( LCD around 1000 cd/m2; OLED might be around 550 cd/m2).
Man ! First Educate yourself then come and debate.
Arguing with ignorance people is useless.
So, Bye here.
Bye Here.
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- 13 Mar 2020
AnonD-754814, 10 Mar 2020This is a lame logic. Samsung makes 8k displays.
Based on... moreIf Sony division of Imaging Sensor is worse than Samsung, then how's the process of Samsung Imaging Sensor division able to have DRAM on their camera sensors (ISOCELL series) when they don't have one before? Of course, they took royalty, how-to-knowledge & permission of Sony's DRAM patent that came out first with XZ Premium/XZs, derived again from RX100 Mk IV-V based DRAM sensor. DRAM on phones wasn't seen until both two were launched in 2017, marking a new stuffs out from Sony Imaging division. Samsung only doing it after launch of S9 series next year with their own or Sony-made IMX345.
It's all balanced, pal. No one is superior to others. Even if one of them overdoing others, that's doesn't mean the other sucks. Sure, ISOCELL have 108 MP Nonacell with huge 1/1.33" sensor to consider on, but Sony also did have own Omnidirectional PDAF that ISOCELL series haven't bake for public now.... Only time when both with switch position to have their own... If Sony Imaging division wasn't here, most camera technology we seen today wouldn't be in the spolight. Just saying...
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Anonymous, 13 Mar 2020No. Other brands do not have screen able to display 10bit c... moreDid you even read what I wrote ? ... "Numerous phone major brands have 10 bit color equivalent 8+2 bit screens." .....8+2 bit color equivalent screen display is NOT a 10 bit display....
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- 13 Mar 2020
AnonD-754814, 13 Mar 2020You are giving yourself a solution. Good ! Now google it. C... moreOh man, are you thick.
When talking about nits living up to screens HDR, you should be aware that so called full speced HDR screen specification is 10 000 nits.
Guess who made the only prototype screen with full ranged HDR?
And here you are, nitpicking about 100 or so nits differences, and talking about mobile screens living up to HDR.
Tseh...