Sony Xperia 1 II
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 22 Jun 2020You are watching a 4K panel in a 4K video ... that's the ma... moreIm just say that 12mpx is enough res to show on 4K TV.
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- 22 Jun 2020
YogiBear83, 22 Jun 2020..and 12mpx is enough resolution to show photo on 4K display.You are watching a 4K panel in a 4K video ... that's the main reason why it does not work as a comparison of any "sharpness". With two visible screens you are using less than 1 pixels to show more than 2 pixels of Xperia screen.
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 22 Jun 2020That video tops out at 4K, there are 4 or 2 two phones in t... more..and 12mpx is enough resolution to show photo on 4K display.
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
YogiBear83, 22 Jun 202012mpx can look good because samples from 7sm2 are look incr... moreand 1II with F1.7 is good aperture. Usually on FF people use 2.8-4.0 aperture so that small (big) sensor have good perfomance to its size. I will test this device longer tomorrow at night..
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 22 Jun 2020You know ... the sensors are a tiny, itsy bitsy different i... more12mpx can look good because samples from 7sm2 are look incredible.
Specially when we talk in terms of video recording.
For good quality maximum pixel count @ size 1/1.7 is 15mpx. Everything above will be poor quality. I know that becuase I have tested many, many Sony APSC and Fullframe cameras (from 6300 to 7RM4 and alfa 9) and 2.4 times less size sensor (apsc vs ff) is big dfferences above ISO3000.
- Fearghast
- Ssj
- 22 Jun 2020
Gganso, 22 Jun 2020Sure there's YouTube compression and I also don't know the ... moreThat video tops out at 4K, there are 4 or 2 two phones in the frame simultaneously.
Considering the resolution of the phone screen, of the Youtube video, considering the compresion of the camera, compresion of the Youtube and many other aspects (the biggest one being you are watching 4K Youtube video of the 4K display ...) ... there is no way, you can tell one is sharper than the other ... well unless you are affected by placebo or simply want to add a bit of fuel to the flame.
I am all for constructive discussion with real data.
- Fearghast
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- 22 Jun 2020
YogiBear83, 22 Jun 2020If someone want there's a gallery of 12mpx 7Sm2 (at the end... moreYou know ... the sensors are a tiny, itsy bitsy different in size :D
https://ibb.co/SJ9QMXd
So not realy sure of what you mean when you say 12MPix can look excelent.
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- Tann Hauser
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- 22 Jun 2020
YogiBear83, 21 Jun 2020I have tested 1mII yesterday and ooh weee.. camera (Pro) is... moreYeah, Bagnell also says native bokeh both in photo and video is a joy to observe. That iToF sensor is doing a great job there.
Dont get it why some revs bother with testing the obsolete computational portrait mode, those are leftovers form obsolete camera setups.
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- Gganso
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- 22 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 21 Jun 2020You can't tell 4K from full HD in that comparison ...
Ther... moreSure there's YouTube compression and I also don't know the camera settings he used, but given all the conditions..the Xperia 1 II is still sharper and clearer at least from this video..
For colors, the Xperia is oversaturated; don't know why though.
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
If someone want there's a gallery of 12mpx 7Sm2 (at the end of list there's a photos/portraits shot at ISO12800-51200!):
https://www.sony.net/Products/di_photo-gallery/camera/ILCE-7SM2/
"pooor" 12 megapixels :)
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- YogiBear83
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- 22 Jun 2020
LORD KEK, 21 Jun 2020>Makes $1200 smartphone
>Touts camera features
>... moreSony alfa 7Sm2 have full frame sensor at 12mpx and its the best camera for night video I ever tested. No noise at ISO12800. Sony make very good choice, bring bigger sensor 1/1.7 @12mpx and F1.7. My XZ3 have smaller sensor, more pixels (so pixels are smaller - bigger noise at high ISO) and worse aperture 2.0 (less light).
Every smartphone have a little noise (on bokeh) even at sunny daylight. On Xperia 1 II didnt see that.
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- Anonymous
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- 22 Jun 2020
Smithravi, 21 Jun 2020You need no English but eyes to watch a video and notice th... moreI don't understand what he is doing. So English please.
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- Anonymous
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- 22 Jun 2020
LORD KEK, 21 Jun 2020>Makes $1200 smartphone
>Touts camera features
>... moreAre you aware that camera would not be able to do same with more megapixels?
You cannot read 16/25/30MP as fast as 12MP.
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- LORD KEK
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- 21 Jun 2020
>Makes $1200 smartphone
>Touts camera features
>Puts 12MP sensor in there to mess with you.
KEK. Nice one Sony.
- Fearghast
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- 21 Jun 2020
Smithravi, 21 Jun 2020No doubt, you should either change your watching device or ... moreI watched that video on colour calibrated 4K IPS panel, I am just not disillusional ... or have a poster "I want to believe" on my wall.
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- YogiBear83
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- 21 Jun 2020
I have tested 1mII yesterday and ooh weee.. camera (Pro) is outstanding (color, noise, AF and lens bokeh) and that OLED screen... dont know what to say.
- Smithravi
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- 21 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 21 Jun 2020You can't tell 4K from full HD in that comparison ... Ther... moreNo doubt, you should either change your watching device or get an eye check up. If you can't find difference in sharpness in that video, nothing else would convince you mate. On that note, I will stop wasting my time arguing and explaining same-thing over and over again.
- Fearghast
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- 21 Jun 2020
Smithravi, 21 Jun 2020Colours are not over saturated but again he might have turn... moreYou can't tell 4K from full HD in that comparison ...
There is a one shot of macro, where you can barely see a difference, but if you are expecting to see the result in person ... let alone on a Youtube video - he is playing compresed video and he uploaded it on Youtube that features agressive compresion you really are just "selling snake oil".
You have no idea of what camera, what camera settings he used to take the video, you have no clue what colour mode was used ... but sure, go for it, make a comparison and say one is better than the other :D
Comedy gold
- Smithravi
- mKj
- 21 Jun 2020
Fearghast, 21 Jun 2020It's really important to understand the background of that ... moreColours are not over saturated but again he might have turned on vivid mode. Either way point of that video is sharpness and details. No where Oppo or other devices are near Xperia 1 II. If you read my comment I specifically mentioned FHD vs QHD vs 4K.
PS: Colours on other smartphones are mostly washed out. I'm surprised even Samsung has cold colours.
- Fearghast
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- 21 Jun 2020
Smithravi, 21 Jun 2020You need no English but eyes to watch a video and notice th... moreIt's really important to understand the background of that video - otherwise it would look like Oppo is the best and Sony is the worst with ugly, oversaturated colours and boosted contrast to oblivion.