Sony Xperia 1 II
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  • 24 May 2020

People need a reason to not like this phone for some reason on this forum. And the best they can do is focus on refresh rate and quick charge. Like the bloke who would rather watch movies on his lg at 1080. Just to try to prove a point

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    • 24 May 2020

    joe nodden, 24 May 2020Ah right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phone... moreI think you may find that everyday things do not require a high refresh rate.

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      • 24 May 2020

      joe nodden, 24 May 2020Get the XZ Premium and deal with terrible battery life and ... moreBattery life is actually fine. I have had one for 3 years and no complaints. As for bezels, well some people like better looks on a phone others better screen. I will take 4k and bezels personally

        Dennis.K, 24 May 2020No matter how many times this has been said, say it more un... moreThen I'd get reported to be spam message
        I'll only waste my precious time explaining a basic idea to unwanted strangers that simply don't have the capacity to take in the facts I'm spitting

          Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020It's not claimed to be 120Hz, but Motion Blur Reduction get... moreOh and I've already seen a 120Hz display

          It's fantastic and incredible, but I'm yet to see a useful task in everyday life for me to make full use of it

          It's not like I need 120Hz to make phone calls or send messages.

            joe nodden, 24 May 2020"You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it ... moreIt's not claimed to be 120Hz, but Motion Blur Reduction gets it close to 90Hz, which is still mostly fine for a high refresh rate. And it works better for saving more battery, as many 120Hz display phones are currently disappointing me with their endurance.

            They don't make a difference, but it's an idea behind my point, that Sony's Motion Blur Reduction COULD actually provide real 90Hz smoothness.

            You know, Sony aims to limit the refresh rate for up to how much is actually necessary to users, but also get the same refresh rate to work for all resolution. It's not a matter of give and take like on Samsung flagships.
            Software magic can pretty much make everything impossible to be reality. Motion Blur Reduction would lessen the amount of frame lag on 60Hz so that it could look less stuttery, which then gives off the impression of a 90Hz display.
            Or like I've said, they can actually enable the display itself to work in 90Hz (since it's a 120Hz panel after all) but in FHD only.

              Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020And people are ranting about the lack of 120Hz, really? ... moreNo matter how many times this has been said, say it more until it sinks into their heads

                And people are ranting about the lack of 120Hz, really?

                What major apps do utilize such refresh rate, and if they do, are they super essential that they wouldn't work on a normal 60Hz display?
                If 50% of the apps in the Play Store support 120Hz screens, then that's the only time I'd consider this refresh rate to be necessary. Otherwise, it's just a gimmick that would be left unutilized for the phone's entire lifespan.

                "Nah, it makes scrolling much smoother."
                Then that's why Sony's giving us Motion Blur Reduction to do just that and match a 90Hz panel, which many people were fine to begin with.

                "But, but,... It's still just 60Hz!"
                Why? Have you personally tried the feature yet for you to say that? You don't even have any idea how good Sony's MotionFlow feature on Bravia TVs is, so unless you really used the phone now, there's no reason for you to speak about it now.

                  Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it c... more"You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it could still make you believe it's only a 60Hz display." Yes but you can't take a 60hz display and make it seem like a 120hz one.

                  "Ever since Xperia X, Sony's constantly using natively 120Hz displays for their upper mid range and flagships." Ok if they lock them all to 60hz that doesn't make a difference.

                  "Besides, SD865 doesn't support more than 60Hz in 4K, so Sony had to do some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz and give you an immersive viewing experience that only Sony can provide you." Quit spewing nonsense. First of all, it doesn't support higher refresh rates at 4k, but it does at 1440p. Y'know, the resolution that manufacturers have stopped using for the most part because even that's said to be too high, let alone 4k. Second of all, they aren't doing "some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz". You said it yourself that the 865 doesn't support 4k at any more than 60hz and that's all there is to it. No software can change that. No motion blurring, no "Motion Smoothing algorithms", nothing.

                  Once again experience real 120hz then get back to me.

                    Anonymous, 24 May 2020Yep, us Sony users will be very disappointed watching our 2... moreAh right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phones on the daily, more so than using their phones for normal people things. Sorry bud, I think I'll be more happy watching them on my 29 inch 21:9 1080p LG LCD. (With my nice headphones too, not tinny phone speakers)

                      Dennis.K, 24 May 2020What does that have to do with thisBecause you said under screen fps is cool, so I presumably thought it's merely for just showing off (you know, like what a cool kid in town would do so)

                        Anonymous, 24 May 2020The screen looked very good, And the video wasn't in 4kThen it only makes the wound hurt more.
                        It's so freakin' better in almost every aspect that it makes the iPhone's screen look budget-level in comparison.

                          Brightk9it, 24 May 2020But Sony needs to get there camera game up the lights where... moreBlown out highlights are clear indication of natural image rendering. You just have gotten fooled by artificial processing on iPhones, Pixels, and Galaxies, which are all absolutely fake and unneditable. In that case, you could import GCAM to the phone and get the same results, maybe even better because of better camera hardware.

                          The main target of the Xperia 1 Mk II's camera system is for those professional users who actually know how to compose an image and with enough knowledge about photography and cinematography. They'd get the same professional level of photo shooting and film making in a smartphone with class-leading (for smartphones) quality that's comparable to proper digital camera equipments like the Sony Alpha and CineAlta series. In short terms, this is Manual Photo and Manual Video on steroids, or in another way, it's both Sony a9 and Sony Camcorders in a smartphone.

                            Vineet Reddy, 24 May 2020LG V30 was not bad hell was far better than S8. But for les... moreGet the XZ Premium and deal with terrible battery life and massive bezels? Yeah I don't think so.

                              joe nodden, 24 May 2020Lmao 60hz is 60hz dude. You can't make it seem smoother tha... moreYou can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it could still make you believe it's only a 60Hz display.
                              Ever since Xperia X, Sony's constantly using natively 120Hz displays for their upper mid range and flagships. Heck, they even went as far as up to 144Hz with the XZ2 Premium in 2018. Obviously the Xperia 1 and 1 Mk II are no exception, for having native 120Hz refresh rate but only locked down by software to 60Hz.
                              Besides, SD865 doesn't support more than 60Hz in 4K, so Sony had to do some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz and give you an immersive viewing experience that only Sony can provide you.

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                                • 24 May 2020

                                joe nodden, 24 May 2020Lmao 60hz is 60hz dude. You can't make it seem smoother tha... moreYep, us Sony users will be very disappointed watching our 24 fps films on a 21:9 4k hdr oled screen with stereo front facing speakers. If only we had 120hz so we could watch the film at hmm 24fps. Wait a second .......

                                  Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020You probably have never seen Sony's Motion Smoothing algori... moreLmao 60hz is 60hz dude. You can't make it seem smoother than it actually is. Try an actual 120hz panel instead of one of those fake ones, then get back to me.

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                                    • bGX
                                    • 24 May 2020

                                    Holy moly 2100 comments and still increasing...
                                    This phone is officially the king of smartphones, even when it is not here yet. Haha take that haters, 2020 and Sony still gets all your attention. Galaxy, iPhone and chinese brands are only virgins when standing beside this chad.
                                    And yeah btw, keep saying Sony makes useless tech, 1-2 years later all manufacturers in the world will copy it and some will say they invented it. Same thing happened to IP68, 960 super slow motion, 4K HDR recording,... Don't worry, as long as you haters still make Sony popular, Sony will still produce better and more amazing features to the mobile industry, and you will be able to have those features from your favorite brands just 2 years later.

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                                      • 24 May 2020

                                      Anonymous, 24 May 2020I think every Sony fan will admit that there are better pho... moreThank you

                                        RishiGuru, 24 May 2020Well I own the Xperia XZ1 & a pair of LG V30+ from 2017... moreLG V30 was not bad hell was far better than S8. But for less than that price you could have purchased XZ Premium "King of Smartphones-2017" but yeah that is your personal preference. As long as you are satisfied that is fine.