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joe nodden, 24 May 2020Get the XZ Premium and deal with terrible battery life and ... moreThat had enough battery to get you through a full days usage even with continuous browsing and chatting with regular gaming and YouTube streaming. What else do you need. And Massive bezels I don't understand why that is bad when in return you are getting better Hi-Res Stereo speakers which was again first by SONY and was way ahead of its competition of that time when it comes to Clear and Natural experience.

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    • 24 May 2020

    joe nodden, 24 May 2020Ah right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phone... moreNot sure what the other passengers will think about you taking a TV on the train

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      • MKM
      • 24 May 2020

      joe nodden, 24 May 2020Ah right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phone... moreThat is the beauty of android, lots of options. I'm sure you play lots of games and there are better phones for your needs. And music the LG and your good headphones I'm sure are excellent. However surely even you can admit that to watch a movie or Netflix series there is no better option than this phone? Or are you going to try to convince me that 1080 hd on your lg will give a better experience even with your very good headphones?

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        . , 24 May 2020Holy moly 2100 comments and still increasing... This phone... moreI think Sony would rather sell more phones instead of just having a higher number of comments on a tech website than others. The phone is good and I'm going to buy it, but actually it's Sony standing in the shadows of the others, not because of the phone itself, but due to their lack of marketing. You can build the best phone in the world, but it means nothing if most of the people don't know that it exists. When I talked about the phone at work (I live in germany, a place where you can still buy Sony phones) with two of my coworkers they where like "Oh, so Sony is still making phones?". I think that sums up the problem very well.

        And if they continue to sell less and less phones they won't do it any longer. Even if you want to do it for prestige, at some point your shareholders will ask you if you're out of your mind. It's the same that happened with HTC phones, which is the reason i'm here. They didn't feel the need to advertise their phones while Samsung did it a lot and overtook them. I stuck with my HTC 10 because I found nothing that could replace it, then I found out about the 1 II. But that's the point, I had to search for it and the majority of the people won't do that.

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          • 24 May 2020

          People need a reason to not like this phone for some reason on this forum. And the best they can do is focus on refresh rate and quick charge. Like the bloke who would rather watch movies on his lg at 1080. Just to try to prove a point

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            • 24 May 2020

            joe nodden, 24 May 2020Ah right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phone... moreI think you may find that everyday things do not require a high refresh rate.

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              joe nodden, 24 May 2020Get the XZ Premium and deal with terrible battery life and ... moreBattery life is actually fine. I have had one for 3 years and no complaints. As for bezels, well some people like better looks on a phone others better screen. I will take 4k and bezels personally

                Dennis.K, 24 May 2020No matter how many times this has been said, say it more un... moreThen I'd get reported to be spam message
                I'll only waste my precious time explaining a basic idea to unwanted strangers that simply don't have the capacity to take in the facts I'm spitting

                  Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020It's not claimed to be 120Hz, but Motion Blur Reduction get... moreOh and I've already seen a 120Hz display

                  It's fantastic and incredible, but I'm yet to see a useful task in everyday life for me to make full use of it

                  It's not like I need 120Hz to make phone calls or send messages.

                    joe nodden, 24 May 2020"You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it ... moreIt's not claimed to be 120Hz, but Motion Blur Reduction gets it close to 90Hz, which is still mostly fine for a high refresh rate. And it works better for saving more battery, as many 120Hz display phones are currently disappointing me with their endurance.

                    They don't make a difference, but it's an idea behind my point, that Sony's Motion Blur Reduction COULD actually provide real 90Hz smoothness.

                    You know, Sony aims to limit the refresh rate for up to how much is actually necessary to users, but also get the same refresh rate to work for all resolution. It's not a matter of give and take like on Samsung flagships.
                    Software magic can pretty much make everything impossible to be reality. Motion Blur Reduction would lessen the amount of frame lag on 60Hz so that it could look less stuttery, which then gives off the impression of a 90Hz display.
                    Or like I've said, they can actually enable the display itself to work in 90Hz (since it's a 120Hz panel after all) but in FHD only.

                      Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020And people are ranting about the lack of 120Hz, really? ... moreNo matter how many times this has been said, say it more until it sinks into their heads

                        And people are ranting about the lack of 120Hz, really?

                        What major apps do utilize such refresh rate, and if they do, are they super essential that they wouldn't work on a normal 60Hz display?
                        If 50% of the apps in the Play Store support 120Hz screens, then that's the only time I'd consider this refresh rate to be necessary. Otherwise, it's just a gimmick that would be left unutilized for the phone's entire lifespan.

                        "Nah, it makes scrolling much smoother."
                        Then that's why Sony's giving us Motion Blur Reduction to do just that and match a 90Hz panel, which many people were fine to begin with.

                        "But, but,... It's still just 60Hz!"
                        Why? Have you personally tried the feature yet for you to say that? You don't even have any idea how good Sony's MotionFlow feature on Bravia TVs is, so unless you really used the phone now, there's no reason for you to speak about it now.

                          Shanti Dope, 24 May 2020You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it c... more"You can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it could still make you believe it's only a 60Hz display." Yes but you can't take a 60hz display and make it seem like a 120hz one.

                          "Ever since Xperia X, Sony's constantly using natively 120Hz displays for their upper mid range and flagships." Ok if they lock them all to 60hz that doesn't make a difference.

                          "Besides, SD865 doesn't support more than 60Hz in 4K, so Sony had to do some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz and give you an immersive viewing experience that only Sony can provide you." Quit spewing nonsense. First of all, it doesn't support higher refresh rates at 4k, but it does at 1440p. Y'know, the resolution that manufacturers have stopped using for the most part because even that's said to be too high, let alone 4k. Second of all, they aren't doing "some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz". You said it yourself that the 865 doesn't support 4k at any more than 60hz and that's all there is to it. No software can change that. No motion blurring, no "Motion Smoothing algorithms", nothing.

                          Once again experience real 120hz then get back to me.

                            Anonymous, 24 May 2020Yep, us Sony users will be very disappointed watching our 2... moreAh right I almost forgot people watch movies on their phones on the daily, more so than using their phones for normal people things. Sorry bud, I think I'll be more happy watching them on my 29 inch 21:9 1080p LG LCD. (With my nice headphones too, not tinny phone speakers)

                              Dennis.K, 24 May 2020What does that have to do with thisBecause you said under screen fps is cool, so I presumably thought it's merely for just showing off (you know, like what a cool kid in town would do so)

                                Anonymous, 24 May 2020The screen looked very good, And the video wasn't in 4kThen it only makes the wound hurt more.
                                It's so freakin' better in almost every aspect that it makes the iPhone's screen look budget-level in comparison.

                                  Brightk9it, 24 May 2020But Sony needs to get there camera game up the lights where... moreBlown out highlights are clear indication of natural image rendering. You just have gotten fooled by artificial processing on iPhones, Pixels, and Galaxies, which are all absolutely fake and unneditable. In that case, you could import GCAM to the phone and get the same results, maybe even better because of better camera hardware.

                                  The main target of the Xperia 1 Mk II's camera system is for those professional users who actually know how to compose an image and with enough knowledge about photography and cinematography. They'd get the same professional level of photo shooting and film making in a smartphone with class-leading (for smartphones) quality that's comparable to proper digital camera equipments like the Sony Alpha and CineAlta series. In short terms, this is Manual Photo and Manual Video on steroids, or in another way, it's both Sony a9 and Sony Camcorders in a smartphone.

                                    Vineet Reddy, 24 May 2020LG V30 was not bad hell was far better than S8. But for les... moreGet the XZ Premium and deal with terrible battery life and massive bezels? Yeah I don't think so.

                                      joe nodden, 24 May 2020Lmao 60hz is 60hz dude. You can't make it seem smoother tha... moreYou can make a 370Hz display to only work in 60fps and it could still make you believe it's only a 60Hz display.
                                      Ever since Xperia X, Sony's constantly using natively 120Hz displays for their upper mid range and flagships. Heck, they even went as far as up to 144Hz with the XZ2 Premium in 2018. Obviously the Xperia 1 and 1 Mk II are no exception, for having native 120Hz refresh rate but only locked down by software to 60Hz.
                                      Besides, SD865 doesn't support more than 60Hz in 4K, so Sony had to do some software magic to make it work for at least 90Hz and give you an immersive viewing experience that only Sony can provide you.

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                                        joe nodden, 24 May 2020Lmao 60hz is 60hz dude. You can't make it seem smoother tha... moreYep, us Sony users will be very disappointed watching our 24 fps films on a 21:9 4k hdr oled screen with stereo front facing speakers. If only we had 120hz so we could watch the film at hmm 24fps. Wait a second .......