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  • 15 May 2020

Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020I am into mobile tech, but my wife isnt. She got herself a... moreWhy are you hiding the name of the mid range device?
You afraid, you'd be called out on it?
Giving every info except the name?

Plenty of mid range Chinese devices out there to choose from.
90% of them have great battery life.
Stop singling out one device and labeling all Chinese brands having to charge twice a day.

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    • Anonymous
    • XRg
    • 15 May 2020

    Anonymous, 15 May 2020for you who still own and still using older sony phone like... moreA friend of mine still owns the Xperia compact flagship.

    Battery life was terrible to begin with.
    After couple of years, he had to get a replacement battery from third party store since Sony has officially stopped selling phones in my country.

    Screen has cracked easily thereby destroying any IP68 protection it had.

    Stuck with older Android version (Although I consider having the latest versions overrated. Android functions just fine with older versions and is 1000 times more functional than latest version of iOS)

      Smithravi, 15 May 2020SO according to you 5000mah with poor management can outlas... moreLG and Motorola providing 5000mAh batteries on their flagships with 100+ hours of endurance rating.
      Compare that to Sony, how is that poor battery management for 5000mAh?
      Also they only use 18W fast charging.

      Truth is, none of them get empty in 6hr according to your baseless assumptions.
      You need to charge Sony Xperia Atleast twice a day with that poor battery capacity. Within 6 months, battery degradation kicks in since it has 300-400 charge cycles.
      While batteries on LG, Motorola go easily for 1.5 days without charging.
      The bigger batteries not only have bigger capacity but also more charge cycles.
      We all know who wins in the end.

      Try again!

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        • Anonymous
        • 7kY
        • 15 May 2020

        Tann Hauser, 14 May 2020Seriously? You just made this dumb comment? First, own... moreYour anectodal evidence doesn't matter.
        I also have degradation proof of 10% on my wife's OnePlus phone from 2 years back which used much faster charging than Sony.

          Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020It went out just as I predicted 2 yrs ago, that they will s... moreXiaomi isn't dependent on mobiles only.
          Xiaomi is slowly becoming an electronic giant, investing in every electronic goods from routers, air purifiers, TV, robots, security cameras, action cameras, vaccum cleaners, etc.

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            • Anonymous
            • XRg
            • 15 May 2020

            Anonymous, 15 May 2020and do you have problem with that? as much as you probably ... moreYou do realize if sales and profits went down the way they are, you no longer will be able to enjoy Sony phones?

            Sony just sold 400k units in Q1.
            Most Chinese phones are selling that much in a few seconds in flash sales.
            Don't you dare compare it to Lamborghini or Ferrari sales since those companies might have lower marketshare but they don't incur losses.

            If they don't fix pricing, they'll be history soon like HTC.

              Anonymous, 15 May 2020haha have some sense of humor, please. i'm not debating whe... moreI got your sarcasm dont worry.
              I just think that XZ2/3 design is unique but more appealing to women than men, and X1mkII is pure sleek industry tech design men like more yes.
              Sony should offer both IMO.

              I Remember the 2011 SE Neo/Arc/Ray times when phones were actually the same inside, but totally different on the outside design. Much more visual versatility in peoples hands, much better times than these, where phones are all looking all the same outside, with just a bit different innards.

              But 3.5 mm jack ditch made more harm in 2018 than that design.
              Sony fans made a statement by not buying those phones.
              If anything, it was least expected from Sony of all to do that, they are the darn inventors of the thing.

              Fortunately, its back, and supposedly on mkII better than ever before, with added enhanced channel separation, DSEE Ultimate and 3D reality audio.

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                • Anonymous
                • gCm
                • 15 May 2020

                Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020It aint s**t to her. Nor me. You can have your opinion ab... morehaha have some sense of humor, please. i'm not debating whether the phone performance is great or not or whether your wife supposed to like it or not. everybody have their own tastes and needs. if a person like it, it's good then, i don't have problem with that. also considering the price your wife purchased that phone, it's seem like a great buy

                my opinion was only for the design alone. when i look at sony smartphone, at least in the last 10 years. first thing came in my mind is sony z smartphone, that design so uniquely to sony and i could see that kind of design through all of their smartphones, mostly their flagships though, i haven't look much to their midrange or lower end offers, so i have no idea. but speaking of the flagships, from that very first z up to xz1. it's a sony. even xperia 1, and this xperia 1II back to that essence of z design. smart industrial professional looking, and as with sony you expect at least all usable I/O ports being offered, with specs, features whatever. even the UI is a sony, a minimalist clean UI. it's just part of sony charm

                now we had xz2 and xz3 which for me kinda weird looking for sony phones. i can't really tell if it's a sony or not. if people like that designs, go ahead, i have no problem with that.to me personally i don't like it. now let's play a hypothetical question here. if sony xperia 1 II have all the same specs but with xz2/xz3 looking design. would you like it? to me i won't like it, but if majority of sony fans somehow like that xz2/xz3 designs then sony should hear them and use that design approach for their future products then

                only few brands have that kind of unique designs, for me it's cool to have that kind of varieties, everybody have their own tastes and needs. otherwise we'll ended up with the all same looking boring products

                  Anonymous, 15 May 2020yeah well.... tell your wife that phone is a pure f***in s*... moreIt aint s**t to her. Nor me.
                  You can have your opinion about its design and lack of jack, mine isnt too much different, but to her its superb.
                  Looking into the device tho, it is great in every aspect. Camera, sound, screen, battery, performance... for 300 it cost, its premium bang for buck for her needs.

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                    • Anonymous
                    • gCm
                    • 15 May 2020

                    Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020I am into mobile tech, but my wife isnt. She got herself a... moreyeah well.... tell your wife that phone is a pure f***in s***. throw it away and buy a real sony hahaha

                    when a brand already have a recognized design language like sony, there is always some "expectation" about their products whatever it is, whenever it is, it's just part of the company identity. i know it's hard to sell to broader audiences because taste and trends always changing but for die hard hardcore fans or someone that able to appreciate that kind of "niche" approach, a simple minor change could ruin everything. i'm not a sony fans, never had but i do appreciate some of the sony designs, especially in the old days and more recent products. to me, that xz2 is abomination, they should never put a sony name on it :D

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                      • Anonymous
                      • gCm
                      • 15 May 2020

                      for you who still own and still using older sony phone like z5 or xz1. do they still get an updates? what's the latest update for the os and security patch? how about battery life? and if the phones need to be serviced, does sony still offer repair services for those older models? i'm just curious about the after sales services from sony

                        Anonymous, 15 May 2020yeah i remember that with xz2. no headphone jack, back curv... moreI am into mobile tech, but my wife isnt.
                        She got herself a midrange chn phone a year ago, she went mad about it a month ago, as she ended up charging it twice daily. Even my savy mobile knowledge couldnt solve that problem. She Asked me for an opinion this time, I said she should buy an XZ2 that was cheap on sale.
                        She aint interested in a jack, as she never uses it.
                        She loves XZ2 design, as it is a bit on feminine side.
                        It lasts her two whole days between charges.

                        XZ2 is indeed a great overall device with very capable camera, beside the fact it lacks the jack, and has indeed a slippery back design.

                        I wouldnt be satisfied with it, but she loves it.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • gCm
                          • 15 May 2020

                          Tann Hauser, 15 May 2020It went out just as I predicted 2 yrs ago, that they will s... moreyeah i remember that with xz2. no headphone jack, back curve design, what else? do they have sdcard slot? i can't remember because it was pure f***in s***

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                            • Anonymous
                            • gCm
                            • 15 May 2020

                            Smithravi, 15 May 2020Do you know the battery capacity of Apple??? If you don't, ... moresomehow those people just can't understand about power efficiency/power management. it's always about battery capacity. much simpler logic though, bigger capacity means longer power, never considering how much each parts draw power compare to the workload, added with power management, added with thermal design. all those raw capacity wouldn't add much advantages if all those considerations also not "ideal".but hey, who cares about real life performance? it's just much easier to judge with spec sheet and benchmark

                              Anonymous, 15 May 2020and do you have problem with that? as much as you probably ... moreIt went out just as I predicted 2 yrs ago, that they will sell barely enough to be afloat, as to come back to their senses and fanbase. With mkII they did.
                              They removed the jack in 2018, sales dropped significantly up to now, as fanbase refused to support that nonsense move with their money, me included.
                              Now they brought it back and the fanbase interest is back at pre 2018 level... I just hope it now translates to sales and income surplus...
                              Anyways, I think 2019 50% drop from already low 2018 sales isnt a big YoY hit for a company that big, with smartphone buissness numbers that low, to cease production, as it affects its overall yearly profit in 1digit percentage.
                              Problem of mobile cutoff would arise if company's overall yearly profit was highly dependant on smartphone buisness, and then be hit with 50% sales drop.
                              It is yet to be seen how this covid year will turn out for any and all OEMs, but I suspect some mobile only oriented OEMs will implode first, as a result of significantly lower global smartphone sales.
                              The situation is already present, as companies like Xiaomi, highly dependant on mobile only, are going all out, releasing more than a dozen models in mere three months, just trying to compensate low sales globaly.

                                SLSAHXOHVOMVN, 14 May 2020What is poor battery care batteries? Lol Higher capacity i... moreSO according to you 5000mah with poor management can outlast good battery care for 4000 mah. Do you make any sense??? Do you have any proofs?? Apple, Samsung and Sony are dumbos like chinese mobiles and buyers.

                                PS: Oppo publicly said that their 40W degrades the battery to 70% capacity (3500mah out of 5000mah) compared to 15W would to 90% capacity (3600 out of 4000mah). Imagine if just disabling super ultra fast charging can increase your battery longevity, what a good batetry care throughput its life can do. No body cares about what you think. Company who made 65W and 50W themselves confirmed it, it's all crock of bs marketing race seeking to have the bigger numbers. You're just one of those fallen pool.

                                Example2: Imagine you ran out of your 5000mah within 6 hours and 4000mah withint 7 hours. Who will reach 300 cycle mark faster???Think. Use brain.

                                  Anonymous, 14 May 2020Did you just include iPhone in good battery care section? L... moreDo you know the battery capacity of Apple??? If you don't, then stop commenting any further.
                                  Of course, the best battery care is always with Sony. But no where those 5000mah have any see-able benefit with poor management. Same goes to ram management.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • pGj
                                    • 15 May 2020

                                    Love Sony or hate Sony nobody should be pleased if they pull out of the mobile phone market. They will always innovate something useful which will later be seen on other makes also, they will push other companies to innovate and they will, in theory, keep the prices lower of all flagships from any brand. At the moment I will buy the Xperia 1 ii, it is good in the areas that I consider important (screen, camera, audio, future proof) the quick charge I don't care about, the battery will be fine, like on all other Sony phones I have had to last the day. Higher refresh rate would have been nice, but at the moment you must pick. And for me 4k is the more important

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • sSV
                                      • 15 May 2020

                                      Anonymous, 14 May 2020Yes. That's the reason why sony keep losing customers every... moreand do you have problem with that? as much as you probably hate sony, you shouldn't be bother if sony went bust

                                      if sony cares about their sales, they'll copycat all those popular products on the market already just like every chinese companies did.it shouldn't be hard for sony just to do that. better sales right

                                        Telephone, 15 May 2020Yes, that is true. There isn't really much benefit having a... moreOuch. You gave me cancer with that photo of the tablet. :D
                                        Ahahah...What a way to "fix" it.

                                        Anyways, I agree. I dont mind a phone being even up to 1 cm thick, as long as it has a bigger batttery for it, or at least no back camera bump.
                                        But I remember not long ago, when people quarelled here about the trendy thinner phones that went even under 7 mm with huge back camera bumps. Back at the days it was popular to have as thin as possible, justified only by popular design trend of the year, just like today screen cutouts and bholes are justified by bezeless trend. The quarell somehow went into oblivion as thickness war is now irrelevant to people, just as the bezeless, notches and bholes will be irrelevant soon enough.