Sony Xperia 1 III
- KING DRANZER
- KSi
- 18 Jun 2021
ASJ1901, 18 Jun 2021I am not holding my breath for it. I dont care if the phone... moreXPERIA 1 II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_S6JaLvDck
GALAXY S21
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_vhNrtm4zs
OnePlus 9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vluympr7cGI
As you can see XPERIA 1 II has 3 dedicated Processing Units. While S21 and 1+9 has single Main Processing Unit. If that is not clear then I guess only thing that could get you accepting the fact is to book the tickets and visit Japan and get it Confirmed directly from their R&D department.
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- 18 Jun 2021
ASJ1901, 18 Jun 2021I am not holding my breath for it. I dont care if the phone... moreThat is exactly my opinion also...everyone should buy the phone they like and are used to, even though the prices differ a lot from phone to phone with somehow similar hardware. In the end the buyer is the one who will be happy to see it's chosen phone in his hand, regardless of one biased review or another, all flagships will basically do the same things. I am also a Sony fan and think about breaking my wallet for one. (of course, I am thinking with my heart not my brain).
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- ASJ1901
- my0
- 18 Jun 2021
Sony fans , 18 Jun 2021Yes wait.. But how long you can wait for it? I am not holding my breath for it. I dont care if the phone has a dedicated co-processor or not. For me, its the end result of those algorithms that count. My main point is to not spread unproven or false information among fans and consumers. So, it would be good if it has those dedicated processing units, but unless explicitly mentioned by Sony (which they have not yet), i dont want any misinformation spreading.
To me, personally, i dont care if they have those or not. I like how their algorithms work and i am getting the phone, whenever it gets up for sale, that is.
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- Anonymous
- pGj
- 18 Jun 2021
Ayaz, 17 Jun 2021I hate manufacturer when they overlook the need of consumer... moreI can't care less about the selfie camera, what I really hate on a phone is a punch hole or notch. I guess everyone is different and you can't please everybody
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- Sony fans
- gy8
- 18 Jun 2021
ASJ1901, 17 Jun 2021Zack never did a teardown of either xperia 1 or 1 ii. He di... moreYes wait.. But how long you can wait for it?
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- KiB
- 18 Jun 2021
W, 01 Jun 2021I totally agree! Polycarbonate (like Lumia-series) or metal... moreToo bad the reviewers push glass and looks. Never commando for me, always a case.
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- Anonymous
- XMu
- 17 Jun 2021
Ayaz, 17 Jun 2021I hate manufacturer when they overlook the need of consumer... moreThe quality of images same 108mp in Samsung so sony not says its 108mp that's not 108mp etc 12mp camera's installed in 108mp models to just software convert to 108mp sony also gives sabe zoom like 108mp but not in camera you can zoom in pics
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- ASJ1901
- my0
- 17 Jun 2021
KING DRANZER, 17 Jun 2021You can wait for JREs video down the line. But it is obviou... moreZack never did a teardown of either xperia 1 or 1 ii. He did do a teardown of xperia pro, which is basically a slightly suped up version of 1 ii. There was no mention of any dedicated processing units, if you haven't watched it already. And the thing is, we dont know if the Snapdragon 888 can or cannot handle the algorithms, because we dont know what exactly the algorithms being used are. So, i dont think there is any point in discussing that.
What i am trying to say is lets not add unproven information to the forum. Lets just wait and see if it is ever disclosed in the future. To be honest, i would love to be wrong about this, but with the lack of information out there, its better to assume it doesn't exist than to do the opposite :)
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- L1w
- 17 Jun 2021
Dometalican, 17 Jun 2021Thank you. Lol. Never understood why reviewers don't c... moreActually I didn't know that the Xperia 5 have too similarity to Xperia 1 until you said so.
I might even get Xperia 5 regardless how good the battery will be in Xperia 1, Why ?
Because there is green color for the Xperia 5, lolz. My favorite color and it's looks good in the official images.
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- Ayaz
- 6QD
- 17 Jun 2021
I hate manufacturer when they overlook the need of consumers. Every individual on the planet knows that smartphone must have a good selfie camera except Sony's mobile segment planners. I was expecting much from sony this time. The front camera blunder has cancelled my decision to switch from ios to Android.
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- Dometalican
- sgP
- 17 Jun 2021
K, 17 Jun 2021Really ?
The battery life is the most important thing IM... moreThank you. Lol. Never understood why reviewers don't capitalize MORE on that..
Anywho, Xperia 1 gives you a bigger screen (4K let alone...) with wireless charging. If either of those are important, go for the 1. If not, go for the 5. You'll get better battery life, same speakers/DAC, same exact camera setup, same processor, and MicroSD card slot.
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- L1w
- 17 Jun 2021
Dometalican, 17 Jun 2021Waiting another year, yes. He probably means that because t... moreReally ?
The battery life is the most important thing IMO.
But still, I am waiting for the 'Endurance rating' to decide.
If it's in 90h or more then I will get it.
I will probably use 120fps in 1080p all the time not the 30fps/4K.
I might get the Xperia 5 iii if the battery not good for 1 iii.
Is that a good idea ? What will I miss from Xperia 1 iii ?
If anybody else can answer my questions I will appreciate it.
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- Dometalican
- sgP
- 17 Jun 2021
K, 17 Jun 2021Thanks for the help.
Did you mean Xperia 1 iiii by calli... moreWaiting another year, yes. He probably means that because the battery life is not looking good out of the 2 reviews that mention it (despite leaving out numbers because every reviewer downright stinks at this part for whatever reason...).
It's up to you but I don't think next year would be HUGE upgrades so this phone would be good. It's just rumored for July 1st for pre-orders and late July/early August for release at this point.
- KING DRANZER
- KSi
- 17 Jun 2021
ASJ1901, 17 Jun 2021In that se link, go to Specifications and Features, then ch... moreYou can wait for JREs video down the line. But it is obvious as the algo you are speaking of is what comprises of a specified processing implementation sadly cannot be handled or be processed by SD888. SD888 is limited and has its performance boundaries. If it were to be processed on the SD888 the Latnecy we see would be much greater than you expect and visibly annoying to the extent of being unusable.
But well you can wait and check out for JREs video of tear-down when he gets his hands on it.
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- 17 Jun 2021
Ali Abbas, 18 Apr 2021In my opinion it is and will be the best phone of 2021. as ... moreThey even confirmed that their phones don't compete with the others as well
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- Anonymous
- pGj
- 17 Jun 2021
Tann Hauser, 17 Jun 2021He is not actually looking, just listening to that fboy rev... moreI noticed that also. The Xperia shot was showing all of the imperfections in her skin and the Xiaomi had no imperfections at all and he suddenly says that the Sony overuses the smoothing? There was also a zoom example where the Xiaomi was simply oversharpened compared to the Xperia and he automatically said the Xperia was blurry. He also only used the basic mode for zoom shots. You only get digital zoom that way. If you want the ai digital zoom you must use the manual or automatic setting not basic. I am not sure how much difference there is but undoubtedly the AI zoom is better not worse. no doubt the Xiaomi is better after 105mm because it has more optical zoom but probably not by as much as on his review
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- ASJ1901
- my0
- 17 Jun 2021
KING DRANZER, 17 Jun 2021https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-c... moreIn that se link, go to Specifications and Features, then check the features. The 2nd feature is about the BIONZ X Image Processing Engine. No mention of a dedicated processing unit. They just say its an algorithm.
Thats what i was saying, if it is more than an algorithm, they would mention it specifically. Like they did during the reveal of XZ2 Premium. They used a custom Image Signal Processor and they mentioned it. They even have a whole video up on how the Alpha team worked on creating the system on the Xperia 1 iii. There is no mention of a dedicated processing unit or processor. The video is up on Sony Xperia YouTube channel, you can watch it if you want.
Just to clear it out again, even though i have mentioned this before, i am planning to buy this phone, just waiting for the preorders to start. I am debating this so as to not spread false or yet to be proven info based on what Sony has done before.
I know Sony has used custom chips in their phones before, but lets hold onto that fact till Sony comes out and says its a custom solution and not a set of algorithms
- KING DRANZER
- KSi
- 17 Jun 2021
ASJ1901, 17 Jun 2021No they don't. If you check their website for TVs and ... morehttps://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/full-frame/p/ilce9m2-b
You can check for your self. SONY calls it BIONZ-X Processing Engine. Similarly it calls TV Processing Units as Bravia Engine. And when we are discussing about Processing Engine here it is meant to be is the processing Unit and not the processor. Now you may ask what is the difference between Processing Unit and a Processor. Processor is a dedicated chip which takes in raw input and processes it according to specified and modeled requirement. What Processing Unit is a package which holds the Processor in addition to info of commands and spec for the functionality of the Processor and what it has to do. Hope now you understand the difference. But we call CPU as Processor which has become a norm now. But one has to realize that in a PC there are more than one processors working in tandem. Even HDD has its own Processor. GPU has a Processor in it. But all these processing units are dependent on central processing unit to tie them up and work to give us resulting output.
Let SONY call it Engine or Processing Engine or Processing Unit or Processor it is referring to a dedicated Processing Unit. You have to understand that if there is specific process that SONY has developed and calls it to be an Engine it means that it needs supportive Processing Unit which is developed to process that and have required spec. You cannot have Processor in a Graphic Card Run Windows on it as it is not meant for that. Same is the case for everything else. Processing units and Processors are manufactured to handle specific tasks and are essential to perform it as regular processors cannot handle that task.
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- L1w
- 17 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2021If your device still works just fine, I suggest you to wait... moreThanks for the help.
Did you mean Xperia 1 iiii by calling it mark IV ?
If so why should I wait for mark IV ? And that means waiting for another year, Right ?
Also my point for asking question 2 was not for how to transfer data.
It's just to know if it's ok to transfer 40GB of date at one time to a new phone.
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- Tann Hauser
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- 17 Jun 2021
Anonymous, 17 Jun 2021You're the one spreading fake new, troll.
Here'... moreHe is not actually looking, just listening to that fboy reviewer.
Sony overexposed some daylight shots, Xiaomi overexposed some daylight shots. Sony overxposed some night shots, Xiaomi overexposed some night shots.
Its actually Xiaomi that overdid beauty effects in selfies there.
Some portraits were way worse looking on Xiaomi. Video was more detailed on Sony.
But the fboy rev got to say his crp opiniom there, "Xiaomi is waaay better..."
So, he believes it too. Despite what his eyes have seen