Sony Xperia 1 VI
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- PabloDog
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- 29 Nov 2024
Goodthings, 29 Nov 2024Hello, I'll try this later today and let you know. ... moreMan I record 4K120 HDR (BT2020) with previous Xperia 1V in 30'C, sometimes 1hours (40-50 samples per hour) and never had problem or warning. Everyhing is on YT.
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- Goodthings
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- 29 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 29 Nov 2024>If you want specifics, do ask, but do it while replying... moreHello,
I'll try this later today and let you know. Do keep in mind the following:
1. Xperia 1 VI uses the H265 standard for encoding 4K 120 fps videos. This means that the amount of information stored for a quality similar to the H264 standard is reduced to about 60-70%. In practical terms, this means the phone shouldn't overheat as fast as the old ones. I don't know the standard the 5 III uses in this scenario.
2. Recording on an SD card requires more processing power and, thus, more dissipated heat.
3. It should implicitly reduce heat given the processor's speed and the fast UFS 4.0 the phone uses.
4. I do have a feeling that playing with the Video Pro (available with Android 15, I've only got that a couple of days ago) settings (such as applying S-Cinetone, changing aperture, color space etc) could make the phone overheat faster, but this has to be checked too.
BTW, it's a very very big change having one single integrated camera app, which runs from fast Auto, to Camera Pro, Video Pro, Slow Mo, Telephoto Macro, Full-size RAW etc.
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Nov 2024
Goodthings, 28 Nov 2024Thank you for your answer.
The first negative is the pri... more>If you want specifics, do ask, but do it while replying to my comment. That way, you can rest assured I see your reply.
Thank you so much for sharing back and taking the time to provide a detailed reply.
The only specific question I have is about camera overheating when recording 4K60/120 videos.
Is this true that Sony have finally managed to fix this issue and one can shoot 4K60 videos for at least half an hour without overheating?
(I have a fast 1 TB MicroSD card to store the recordings so the storage space is not a factor but 5 III shows the overheating warning after about 15 minutes of recording, give or take.)
PS you are right about the processor speed—I am not playing mobile games or drooling over benchmark scores. For me, a smartphone is just another tool that helps me make money, and I want it to be as comfortable and reliable as the rest of the tools I use every day.
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- Anonymous
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- 29 Nov 2024
Goodthings, 28 Nov 2024Thank you for your answer.
The first negative is the pri... moreI'm from Xperia 5 III.
Yes, the display and camera were good (not mind-blowing, however).
To make it short, it was good overall but considering the price, Sony is hardly worth it (as for my personal opinion)
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- Goodthings
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- 28 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 28 Nov 2024What negative experiences have you had so far with this dev... moreThank you for your answer.
The first negative is the price. Period. It took me one month to make sure I want this device, coming myself from an Xperia 5 II, that was functional.
The second negative is the number of system updates. I don’t feel it yet, but I will, in three years’ time. I’ve convinced myself though that four years of security updates is enough. The idea is that of the main issues I had with my latest phone was the fact that it was not updating its security patches. And, for instance, my online banking app started to ask for PIN every time.
If you come from Xperia 5 III, you’ll have a shock with the display. It’s similarly crisp (you should not believe those who say it’s not crisp enough, it’s perfectly crisp), but the device is quite larger. It took me about a week to fully get accustomed to that.
That’s just about all. In rest, imagine a device that does everything you’re accustomed to, but waaaay better. Especially with respect to the following things:
1. Battery life (it is insane, and I only go up to 90% when charging);
2. Superb graphics;
3. Better front-facing speakers (yup, even better than they were);
4. Waaaay easier camera system, which allows you to take simple pics, when needed and complex compositions when intended;
5. Faster processor (though I somehow know this wasn’t an issue for you);
6. Very reliable physical qualities. Mine is spotless and scratch-less three months later and I’m a heavy user.
If you want specifics, do ask, but do it while replying to my comment. That way, you can rest assured I see your reply.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2024
got myxperia 1 vi and really happy, hope they will always make smartphone, sd card and jack it's main reason i still use xperia and the display too, i try use samsung and other brand, but always get distract by notch on display
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2024
Goodthings, 28 Nov 2024Firstly, the 3.5 jack, the SD card support and the perfect ... moreWhat negative experiences have you had so far with this device (if any)?
Xperia 5 III owher here, and the only viable upgrade option for me is 1 Mark VI.
(You just won't buy into another brand of smartphone after you had a Sony you know)
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 28 Nov 2024i really don't understand why they make phones and eve... more"I really want sony make budget phones for a larger audience"
You have just invented Xperia 10 VI. It is a BUDGET phone, in Sony's terms.
If you cannot afford it, it's not Sony's problem you know.
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- Goodthings
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- 28 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 28 Nov 2024i really don't understand why they make phones and eve... moreFirstly, the 3.5 jack, the SD card support and the perfect resolution are plusses, not minuses. They come on a device that has barely touched the stock Android. In addition, the number of optimizations, firsts, and unique features on this phone is astounding. Still finding new stuff after more than 3 months of use.
Secondly, to answer your question:
Ever heard of ”brand erosion”? It is a trait in the Capitalist societies with a strict economic purspose: You create a new brand and take all they hype. In the beginning, such objects are very expensive. And then, for decades in a row, you keep lowering the price making people pay for a continuously erroding image. In the 1930's, you couldn't buy a Benz car, it was simply too expensive for you. Now there are tons of Mercedes-Benz cars on the roads. In the end, you manage to sell a lot and only lose one name, one brand.
Sony does not succomb to such strategies. Xperias scream quality just as the Sony Walkman did (and still does) in the 80's. No brand erosion here.
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- Anonymous
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- 28 Nov 2024
i really don't understand why they make phones and even if its for a particular niche how long they'll survive? They still provide 3.5mm jack with sd card and some crazy display resolution with camera apart from that there nothing. I really want sony make budget phones for a larger audience they just need a cool ui along with crazy optimization with the sony brand value they'll definitely sell like hot cakes. I wonder why they are not doing anything about expanding in the market .
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- Doraemon Paimon
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- 27 Nov 2024
Anonymous, 27 Nov 2024Xperia is not even close to 10%. In reality it is below 0.1%You missed "if" and "every"
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- Anonymous
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- 27 Nov 2024
Doraemon Paimon, 26 Nov 2024Companies don't need to take control as much market as... moreXperia is not even close to 10%.
In reality it is below 0.1%
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- PabloDog
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- 27 Nov 2024
Doraemon Paimon, 26 Nov 2024Prime telephoto lenses would have been small too. I stated ... moreThe size of the telephoto lens matrix (sensor) determines the thickness of the island - the senor in periscope telephoto lenses is placed transversely to the plane of the device.
Xperias have islands about 1 mm thick
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- Doraemon Paimon
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- 26 Nov 2024
Block of Cheese, 26 Nov 2024But a phone maker must still appeal to the masses if it wan... moreCompanies don't need to take control as much market as possible. If every company had 10% market share, there would have been only 10 possible companies.
Although we have big food companies, we still have local breaker, restaurants and farmers. Although we have big fashion companies, local tailor's and cobbler's are still running business.
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- Doraemon Paimon
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- 26 Nov 2024
Block of Cheese, 26 Nov 2024Yeah, variable zoom lenses are great, but it seems like it&... morePrime telephoto lenses would have been small too. I stated it in the previous comment. telephoto ZTE =1/2', Honor =1/1.4, Motorola =1/2', Samsung =1/2.52', Vivo =1/1.4', Oppo =1/1.95'(periscope =1/2.51'), Xiaomi =1/2.51.While Sony =1/3.5'. Only sony lags behind in algorithm. But All use periscope to make space. You see it's not about zoom. It's the sensor and algorithm. Only Apple uses 1/3'. But they have one of the best algorithm.
Although xperia 5 v didn't have telephoto, xperia 5 iv had. And it was 60mm 1/3.5'. You see, Sony is slow. They don't change that fast or drastically. Even if they didn't use zoom lens, the sensor and algorithm will make even prime lens bad.
But hopefully AI has gotten a lot stronger in the past few years. And sony is implementing it. Also the rumor is available in GSMarena about new sensors. Although it only stats about size but looking at the past we can hope 48mp. We still have a long time for more rumors.
And it's not like Sony telephoto is always the worst. With the upcoming bump they might manage mainstream results.
But if you still want prime, I hope sony brings back xperia 5 with telephoto. It's also cheap. That's not because zoom expensive(if we look at full frame there are cheap and expensive options for both zoom and prime). It's just, there is no investment /competition(LG and Oppo patented zoom for phone's but it never saw the shopkeeper) and it's Sony's unique features.(Asus, Samsung in the distant past had zoom phones. I don't if other's had. But in the past phone's had one camera. So it was the only child(lens) for the phone.)
Sorry, I mistook you about qi2. (Google pixel has qi2)
About economy, ours is complex. Yeah what you said is true but that's true for basic. You said to the other person, "1. Of course they want to sell a lot of phones. Practically all companies in existence wants to sell as many of it's products as possible at the highest price consumers are willing to pay in order to make the most amount of money possible." But xperia is not available in many countries. Even those have get them through third party companies. Yeah sony makes poor decision but if they want to sell most products while making most profit they will need monopoly which they don't have. (Sony sells an umbrella for 5000 usd.) also as the other person, whom you replied to, stated about computer's. People in higher ups are not as fool as we think them. They have their strategy. Like you said, "I understand that Sony supplies the other manufacturers with sensors. Sony might even have agreements to reserve their best sensors for their competitors and not use it in their own devices in exchange for their competitors buying a lot of Sony's sensors." This might not be the reason. They might have other reasons /strategy.
I get it. Pricey thing's should be good. Otherwise it's like a scam. That's where the rumor gives me a ray of hope for better product. But I would say there is no hope for low prices.
I forgot to mention lider/tof 3d(rumored). As it's rumor it might be Ir and depth back from the past.
Also quality control is related to brand reputation. So I'm not sure about Sony having this issue. It might be scenario.
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- PabloDog
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- 26 Nov 2024
[deleted post]Man, your posts are not only distasteful, but you also pretend to be objective.
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- PabloDog
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- 26 Nov 2024
Block of Cheese, 26 Nov 2024There is no link in the description of the video that you p... moreI'm sure most peaople (and you) need one-button phones and AI because you can't read and understand the text and then you jump on someone trying to make fun of them.
Quote what I wrote:
"and under "Xperia 1VI Daytime zoom macro" film there is link to samples from 1VI"
and:
"samples from video "Xperia 1V Exmor T daytime photos (auto mode)""
PS Again I have the impression that I am writing with an MS fan, ehhh...
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- PabloDog
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- 26 Nov 2024
[deleted post]Yes Xperia offers one of the best telephoto quality in Video rec becuase it records Video in 4K120fps 10bit with HLG (it means Bt2020 up to 5000nits). I never seen better video from tele on other phones. Stop jumping on my head, man.
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- Anonymous
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- 26 Nov 2024
Block of Cheese, 26 Nov 2024I don't wish for sony to copycat other phone makers. I... moreI guess so well, unless they have something real unique and good about something that others don't.
I personally don't like wireless charging as it's inconvenient and produces more heat.
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- Block of Cheese
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- 26 Nov 2024
Mopar, 23 Nov 2024Yeah ok. 98% of the masses don't buy Xperia because th... moreBut a phone maker must still appeal to the masses if it wants to stay in business. You just can't get very far catering to 1% of the population.