Sony Xperia XZ1
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- 24 Dec 2017
fredd, 24 Dec 2017Stop glorifying your beloved Sony. Wow, you said that 3D sc... moreConvince yourself. Do reaseach, where did samsung get its camera
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- 24 Dec 2017
fredd, 24 Dec 2017Stop glorifying your beloved Sony. Wow, you said that 3D sc... moreSony provide samsung with its camera module, do more research because sony is the major source of camera module of almost all brand of smartphone including samsung. You are a fanboy who cant accept the truth about where samsung gets 8ts camera
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- 24 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 24 Dec 2017Sony have the best hardware and the software too, don't you... moreStop glorifying your beloved Sony. Wow, you said that 3D scanning works like a champ, not all people used that 3D scanning. Yes, I tried my brother brand new XZ1 Compact. It works great but my brother doesn't use it at all. Most of people minded about the camera shots, not that 3D scanning. Stop glorifying until Sony can beat the Samsung camera. Out.
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- 24 Dec 2017
Lex79, 23 Dec 2017Yes Sony were first with that kind of sensor, correct.
As ... moreSony have the best hardware and the software too, don't you see that the Sony 3D scanning software is advance and work like a charm.
Stop protecting your beloved Samsung brands, not to mention their R&D for Samsung X foldable smartphone still keep you waiting year after year, don't you getting old?
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- 23 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 23 Dec 2017Samsung want to makes the stacked dram camera sensor thems... moreYes Sony were first with that kind of sensor, correct.
As I have pointed out numerous times, Sony are number 1 when it comes to the production of mobile imaging sensor technology. Samsung are at best in the number 2 position here.
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- 23 Dec 2017
Lex79, 22 Dec 2017Yeah maybeSamsung want to makes the stacked dram camera sensor themselves but too late, Sony already use the stacked Dram camera sensor and can do 3D scanning!!
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http://english.etnews.com/20170918200001
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https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_will_reportedly_build_its_own_1000_fps_camera_to_challenge_sony-news-27323.php
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- 23 Dec 2017
Anonymous, 22 Dec 20173d scanning will become useless like qnovoYou can see the iPhone and Samsung flagships are now become waterproof because they follow Sony's steps. But they're too late to follow-up.
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- 23 Dec 2017
So beautiful phones
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- 22 Dec 2017
Anonymous, 22 Dec 2017iphone maybe can do 3D scanning 5 year later and the 3D sca... moreNah, Sony is going to use their new advanced TOF sensor, and give the one used in MotionEye Xperias to the competition....
They ll catch up in features in some 2-3 years, just as they did with loseless zoom and portrait/bokeh...
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- 22 Dec 2017
Anonymous, 22 Dec 2017iphone maybe can do 3D scanning 5 year later and the 3D sca... moreYeah maybe
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- 22 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 22 Dec 2017Actually the Sony already has the background defocus 3 year... moreI may be mistaken on this but 4K video recording was first introduced on an acer phone of some sort or other, followed by the note 3?
The ‘Best’ place for a finger print scanner is down to individual taste, The is no definitive best place, pretty sure we can all agree on a worst place though...looking at you S8 :)
Am also pretty sure background de-focusing has been around is some form for longer than 3 years....I think I can remember it being on the Galaxy s3 (completely useless but there nonetheless)
Spot about AR though, Xperia’s have had that for a while, you can’t use it very long without your device getting all hot and sweaty.
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- 22 Dec 2017
Anonymous, 22 Dec 2017iphone maybe can do 3D scanning 5 year later and the 3D sca... more3d scanning will become useless like qnovo
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- 22 Dec 2017
xXENDER FREAKXx, 22 Dec 2017Precisely, unfair for the single camera high-end flagshipsActually the Sony already has the background defocus 3 years ago but the Dxomark don't take into the protocol. Dxomark until this year start the new protocol is too late and it is unfair to the Sony, because Sony start the invention and the follower all behind Sony. Even the AR Sony already have it for early 3 years ago. Even the best place side frame fingerprint on smartphone is first done by Sony and the follower is late to show off! Even the first 4K HDR and 4K video recording is released by Sony. Even the stacked Dram camera sensor is created by Sony..... Where are all the followers and copy cat? Sony start the trends too early and show the copy cat too late to follow Sony steps!
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- 22 Dec 2017
Lex79, 22 Dec 2017Why everyone is getting so het up on DXOmark I'll never kno... moreiphone maybe can do 3D scanning 5 year later and the 3D scanning trends will be waiting a 5 years to start.
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Why everyone is getting so het up on DXOmark I'll never know.
Will say this though, yes they do appear to be altering their criteria based on the market leaders requirements. Why? Because their are the market leaders, where they go, others tend to follow.
For example, Apple didn't introduce biometric security, but it wasn't taken seriously until they brought out Touch ID. Sony were doing waterproof handset way before anyone else, but only when Samsung and Apple implemented it did everyone else start to follow suit.
That's just how the market works, were Sony number 1, then they would set the pace.
Now as for DXOmark now scoring such things like bokeh, zoom and other duel lens features, well of course they were going to now that Apple and Samsung have adopted such tech, from Dxo's point of view it's only a matter of time before the rest follow suit.
Is this fair....no, it is business though. Why would they start scoring 3d scanning? what, your expecting all other OEMs to jump on that bandwagon just because Sony have done it?
Probably not till Apple have their own alternative will everyone else start copying.
As for scoring slo-mo (as I have seen mentioned), well don't be so quick to wish for that unless your of the belief that number of FPS is the only criteria against which it will be scored? Not resolution, dynamic range, sound quality etc.
Might just be Sony don't come out on top in that category anyway.....just maybe....
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- 22 Dec 2017
Tann Hauser, 22 Dec 2017Adding zoom and bokeh scores just in time for iph8 dual cam... morePeople would think that they are professional smartphone camera reviewers, but for me I don't think so. I rather look at GSMARENA's one, why? It did not mention the other parts of the camera, and it is strange that they focus on zoom and bokeh effect a lot, this is where the bias part comes in, those single camera smartphones cannot do well in these 2 aspects, well maybe they can, if they had Google's machine learning method to train the smartphone's camera. And DxOMark definitely is a Pay-To-Win kind of thing, so how do we trust them? I had never trusted their review since the use of their new protocol, I always trust GSMARENA, they got no hate on any brand, and no one payed them to say good things about a smartphone, they review smartphones honestly, unlike DxOMark...
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- 22 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017I use to believe Dxomark before they change the protocol, t... moreAdding zoom and bokeh scores just in time for iph8 dual camera phone release....
They didnt care too much about scoring Losless Zoom and Background defocus (aka portrait/bokeh mode) features in Xperias since 2 years ago...
But, dual camera sets on iphones, sammys, etc...
And those are extra features, not automode out of the box...
"Heck, guys, we should now include scoring this extra features, Apple and Samsung now have it, so score them..."
Yeah, wheres the scores for slo mo feature, or 3d scan feature Dxo?
"We will include em once apple or samsung get them, no biggie..."
So in the end yeah, new protocol is just some circumstantial based protocol, not trusting that....
Seems Sony ditched them too for that kind of behaviour, no more Sony phone rews, just numerous midrange chinese phone rews there now
And the “scoring"...
subscores: 79,84,92,78,88.
overall score: 98
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- 22 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017I use to believe Dxomark before they change the protocol, t... moreAdding zoom and bokeh scores just in time for iph8 dual camera phone release....
They didnt care too much about scoring Zoom and Background defocus (aka portrait/bokeh mode) features in Xperias since 2 years ago...
But, dual camera sets on iphones, sammys, etc...
"Heck, guys, we should now include scoring this extra features
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- 22 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017I use to believe Dxomark before they change the protocol, t... morePrecisely, unfair for the single camera high-end flagships
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- 22 Dec 2017
3D Memorys, 21 Dec 2017I use to believe Dxomark before they change the protocol, t... moresony will produce bezelless oled phone and you'll change your mind again