vivo X5Max

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• AnonD-601935
• XQB
• 22 Dec 2016

Hi
After having solved my imusic [default app from vivo] issue , now next is the issue which is finding a portable headphone [open type] having the same sound stage as audio technica M50x and M40x [i have both] and yet portable - any suggestions please ?

Currently using Sennheiser PX 100-II for taking to office and back but still the sound not as good as AT-m40x or M50x

Any suggestions please ?

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• AnonD-601935
• g3r
• 19 Dec 2016

1)i got the update : PD1408F_EX_B_2.3.3 from the service center and it fixed the storage issue - thanks RishiGuru

2) Sadly the i music issue which i started my posts from , did not get resolved by mtp update but by another application - NEUTRON From Neutron code limited
it supports HI-FI option [settings->sounds->hifi-> enable neutron] also samba sharing is supported [poweramp does not support samba as the option will not be visible when choosing the file and doing "open as audio" in es file explorer]
So my issue is resolved for the i music app - infact Neutron [i have full paid version which is the default for both local and samba shares]

Hope this helps

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• AnonD-601935
• g3r
• 19 Dec 2016

for all x5 max owners - i have the great news !
1)First i went to the service center and got the mtp update :PD140BF_EX_B_2.3.3 which has resolved the storage issue [used space 5,26gb and available space 10.74 gb]

2) my issue with i music app which was closing when trying to select a new song in es file explorer [ samba sharing ] is resolved also
Not by the mtp update but by this great app [Neutron from Neutron code limited] which has the hi-fi option enabled [SETTINGS->SOUNDS->HIFI -> ENABLED NEUTRON] now and also it's my default app for choosing the song from my networked windows pc [samba sharing THRU ES FILE EXPLORER] and also for the music stored on local storage

SOMETHING WHICH EVEN THE POWERAMP FAILED TO DO DESPITE BEING HIFI ENABLED AS WELL[poweramp will work for local storage of music only (no samba sharing)- will not be visible in the app menu of es file explorer when you choose the file and do "open as audio" [poweramp being missing in the list of apps] ]

3)for battery issue - just get a power bank and this will fix the battery issue to enjoy this phone for hours on end .

Now my x5Max is ALIVE AND KICKASS - an true Audiophile phone NOW!
Hope this helps the owners of x5Max and very special thanks to RishiGuru
God Bless You all !

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• Alpha8
• gM%
• 11 Dec 2016

RishiGuru, 12 Jul 2016"Lossless" is a relative term used by phone manufacturers t... moreNice definition of Hifi. I have bought two x5max as it is a true hifi phone. I never believed phones can produce high quality audio but X5Max is an exception. This phone has become a collectors item for me just for its audio quality. Believe me guys when i say this phone is an audiophiles dream.

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• Alpha8
• gM%
• 11 Dec 2016

RishiGuru, 07 Jul 2016When I first laid hands on my Vivo X5Max, I could feel this... moreTruly revealing and detailed technical analysis of Vivo X5max. Great work rishiguru. You are truly knowledge when it comes to mobile technology and especially audio.

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• RishiGuru
• utg
• 02 Dec 2016

AnonD-614611, 02 Dec 2016Rishiguru, as X5Max is no longer available in the market I ... moreYour requirement is not clear to me? You have already have a Vivo V3Max, a great phone for its price. Is V3Max able to show FLAC metadata like name of the song, album, artist and album art in the default player while playing?

I don't know Vivo have either solved this issue with their recent updates, as I simply don't care. When you own the best audiophile centric smartphone Vivo X5Max you don't listen to other phones as you ears gets habituated to the supreme audio quality of X5Max.

I own a Lenovo Vibe X3 and my honest opinion, don't buy that phone. Vibe X3 have good specs and great audio but the software is buggiest of all. I have stopped using my Vibe X3 after its buggy Android 6.0 update. As for ZTE Axon 7, I have experienced it for a day and it is a superb device. It's an all-rounder just like V3Max, just more powerful and more expensive. Axon 7 is a notch above V3Max.

Sound quality wise, objectively & subjectively X5Max is still the best. Next in the line comes Vibe X3 (Lollipop version), then Axon 7 closely followed by V3Max. X5Max & Vibe X3 comes with more expensive & performance oriented ESS Sabre audio DACs & Texas Instruments headphone amplifiers in discrete configuration. Where as Axon 7 & V3Max uses cheaper integrated audio solution provided by AKM.

In the end for a casual smartphone user habituated in listening songs on Samsung Galaxy S7 or LG G5 will find both Axon 7 & V3Max sound quality over headphones to be heavenly. To an audiophile though X5Max is the one to have.

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• AnonD-614611
• XQ7
• 02 Dec 2016

Rishiguru, as X5Max is no longer available in the market I bought a V3Max which I consider also is a super hit model. Even this model is becoming rare due to the depleting stock of V3Max and further to that sales persons wearing blue Vivo T-shirts pushing their new bride V5. They surreptitiously avoid performance based queries regarding V5. Now what I wanted to know is, my V3Max is able to play all my FLAC collection through the default player. I can not afford LG V20. Now I have 2 choices to fulfil my requirement either I go far Lenovo Vibe X3 or to wait until 15 December when ZTE is launching its flagship Axon 7 in India. Please share your opinion which according to me would be a better option.

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• Alpha8
• gM%
• 20 Nov 2016

AnonD-611069, 17 Nov 2016Lol buddy, not everything in a phone is based on audio qual... moreThis phone is not for all, especially spec crazy people like you. This phone is built for audiophiles. I was in lookout for this phone for well over a decade, finally i have a phone which does justice to my earphones.

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• AnonD-557636
• 9Lp
• 18 Nov 2016

AnonD-611069, 17 Nov 2016Lol buddy, not everything in a phone is based on audio qual... morei understand your frustrations of not owning a vivo x5max, bcoz if you owned this gem, you would not have said so. my dad owns this phone and i rate it's user experence even better than my vivo v3max. many phones now have audio dacs but all dacs are not same. both v3max & x5max have dedicated dacs, but listened to both and you can feel the difference in quality. lastly x5max have respectable battery backup, read the review here and you will understand. for my dad the phone easily lasts for a day.

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• AnonD-611069
• XQt
• 17 Nov 2016

Anonymous, 15 Oct 2016Thanks. Is it worth buying. How is screen quality. Volte. I... moreLol buddy, not everything in a phone is based on audio quality. No point harping over it again and again. A poor phone with poor battery life, poorly optimized OS software that leaks battery every 2 minutes, with maximum playback time of 3 hours with getting quite heated. This phone is not something you should recommend even to those looking forward to buy audiophile grade phones. Functionally, this phone is a cripple. The only saving grace is audio quality, which if listened over poor shoddy headphones, will sound worse as usual.

There are much better all round options available - Vibe X3, Mi Note, Le Eco Max, Mi 5, and some other phones with dedicated DAC that offer a much better value compared to this grandpa.

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• RishiGuru
• gM}
• 31 Oct 2016

AnonD-601935, 29 Oct 2016thank you Sir for your esteemed knowledge ! Can you please ... moreYou can go for Sennheiser Momentum Wireless headphones to achive good sound. Read some reviews of this headphone and if it suits your taste buy one. Personally I an not a great fan of Bluetooth headphones.

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• AnonD-601935
• vbA
• 31 Oct 2016

sagunthala, 30 Oct 2016can it be upgraded to marshmallow ? i do not think so bacoz of license issue as i music can play flac and all formats with license issue but then the higher android OS have license issues for playing flac/ape etc

So my view - it will never get updated to latest android OS

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• sagunthala
• KZ8
• 30 Oct 2016

can it be upgraded to marshmallow ?

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• AnonD-601935
• gNV
• 29 Oct 2016

RishiGuru, 29 Oct 2016After reading your post I do feel you have some misconcepti... morethank you Sir for your esteemed knowledge ! Can you please tell me - how to get the same pristine sound on top end bluetooth headphone

True - ATH-M50x MG that i have - first time i got this and paired it with x5max and the effect is heavenly ! to say the least but the wires still bother me

1) Can i go for hi-res bluetooth headphone to pair it with x5max - since the chipset of this phone is advanced i guess the digital signal [HQ] will be interpretted by the hi res circuit of the bluetooth headphone to get me the same sound as this wired combo of x5max+ath-m50x MG ?

2)OR Can i go in for mobile phones with 'Hi-res audio' support which can feed the sound to the compatible hi res bluetooth headphones ? money is not an issue here - i need the true pristine sound wthout the wires - please guide me

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• RishiGuru
• gM%
• 29 Oct 2016

AnonD-601935, 29 Oct 2016thanks for the suggestion - i tried that also making the po... moreAfter reading your post I do feel you have some misconceptions about the word HiFi (High Fidelity).

Here are my two cents:

1) HiFi is no effect, it denotes music in it's truest form without any added effects. The aim here is to reproduce music as recorded in the studio.

2) By adding equalisers while listening music is adding additional effects to the orginal music, as it is allowing you to add more bass or treble effect, taking you further away from HiFi.

3) HiFi in any audio centric smartphone denotes the hardware (DAC + op-amps + headphone amplifiers) that converts the digital audio signal from your phone chipset (Snapdragon 615 here) to analog signal through 3.5 mm audio jack. Hence when you use this jack HiFi can be enabled. But when you are using a Bluetooth headset, digital audio is directly broadcasted from phone to you headset, and now the DAC + Headphone Amplifier of your Bluetooth headset is in charge. Hence as you are not using the high-end audio hardware of X5Max while using a Bluetooth headset, HiFi is not visible in display and the audio quality is completely under control of your headset.

Hope this clears some of your doubts.:)

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• AnonD-601935
• vbA
• 29 Oct 2016

RishiGuru, 26 Oct 2016Though I admire your love for music and to a certain extent... morethanks for the suggestion - i tried that also making the poweramp the default one just like you mentioned but it did not work as es file explorer popped open the "choose app to open with" windows still . Now currently i have made VLC as the default from with in es file explorer's "choose app to open with" windows dialog box - but i am not happy that x5max being the great music phone does not have full imusic app with in built equalizer support !

Btw - VLC has the network browser built in but i like es file explorer

Lastly - the hifi effect cannot be accessed with bluetooth headphones - that's another -ve for this phone ! , it works only on 'wired' headphones'
Currently i am using ath-m50x at home , but when i travel i use bluetooth headphones still great sound if the bluetooth headphone is good enough .....

thank you all for the valuable suggestions
Hope my observation helps all

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• RishiGuru
• 2SV
• 26 Oct 2016

AnonD-601935, 26 Oct 2016thanks for the suggestion but the default file manager does... moreThough I admire your love for music and to a certain extent the art of listening music over shared network, it can create a specific set of problems in a mobile phone.

Two things come to my mind:

1) You are accessing your audio file over network (PC -> X5Max), which the iMusic app is playing.

2) At the same time when audio is continually streamed (PC -> X5Max) you want to additionally send commands (now, X5Max -> PC) to search and select a song via ES File Explorer app while music plays in background. And this implies bi-directional flow of data needs to happen simultaneously. Tough call.

As you say PowerAmp music app have no issues with it, I suggest you change the default music player of X5Max, from iMusic to PowerAmp. Below are the steps:

iManager -> App Manager -> Default app settings -> Default music software -> Select Power Amp.

Hope this works for you. :)

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• AnonD-601935
• vbA
• 26 Oct 2016

RishiGuru, 26 Oct 2016Use the default File Manager app provided rather than ES Fi... morethanks for the suggestion but the default file manager does not do network serach as all my music is on shared drive of my win 7 hp pc
I access my network music files thru es file explorer and then play it via 'imusic' set as default app when i encounter this issue going to es file explorer to look for another song when it [imusic] stops playing the current song - it does not happen with poweramp but the poweramp cannot be accessed in app context menu when i do "open as audio or video whichever] - the list does not have poweramp appearing , had it been otherwise - imusic 'd not be an issue - poweramp only visible in the app context menu when trying to access 'local' content which poweramp has not been able to fix yet

any suggestions ?

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• RishiGuru
• utg
• 26 Oct 2016

AnonD-601935, 25 Oct 2016guys plz help me i have x5max - the imusic which plays mu... moreUse the default File Manager app provided rather than ES File Explorer app. You can choose music files through this default app and iMusic will play music as you desire, also in background.

Music files should be properly categorized into artists, albums with album arts so that you never need any file explorer. You have the best music player in iMusic. Create playlist in iMusic as you desire and play the songs according to wish.

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• AnonD-601935
• vbA
• 25 Oct 2016

guys plz help me
i have x5max - the imusic which plays music thru es file explorer selection , closes when i 'switch' to es file explorer to make another selection - sometimes it does not [keeps playing music in the background] , 99% this happnes and rarely it keeps playing the ongoing selection in the background [i use wired audio techina m50x MG edition with it]

i do not want to use another app [like vlc etc] and point to note this works with any audio player [except imusic] i.e the app keeps playing the music in background while i browse for another selection in es file explorer

How i switch app - while imusic playing in the app - i touch the bottom portion to bring up the window which shows open windows and options to make a selection and i select the es file explorer

this is the only issue i am facing - any help please ?

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