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I'm really hoping that the international version will have IP68

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    • 29 Jan 2022

    Well, 27 Jan 2022I also had Mi Note 10 Pro, Huawei P30/P40 Pro (took from fr... moreI am very pleased with my note 10 plus. recording in noisy environments handles perfectly

      Awaiting for ** Xiaomi 12 Ultra ** ...

      @Xiaomi -> Unveil piece of news about 12 Ultra's release date, please !!!

        Anonym, 24 Jan 2022*ALL* smartphone cameras will get condensation/icing inside... moreYes you are right to some degree, but I don't agree that all smartphone cameras get condensation inside the lens that fast in this environment. The russian guy who made the review about this smartphone was definitely correct when saying that Xiaomi 12 phone lineup was not tested enough in different environments, because iPhone 13 Pro was able to not fog up when making a picture. There are definitely things Apple considered when building their phone, that Xiaomi didn't. Meaning that Xiaomi 12 phone lineup has some sort of a build issue. I really wish it didn't have to be this way, because Xiaomi 12 phone overall does look really good.

          Well, 27 Jan 2022I also had Mi Note 10 Pro, Huawei P30/P40 Pro (took from fr... moreOh i didn't mean to raise the numbers, like i said, you can have bad quality with high bitrate, so they will keep it at 96kbps probably, but the quality through processing may become better.
          ...Samsung, the S20Ultra sold after like 6 or was it 8 months of use, for 300Eur, while i bought it for 900Eur, literally no one wanted to buy it.
          Why sell such a 'good' phone?
          - fingerprint and face unlocking not working most of the time, even with daylight
          - each update fixed something, and broke something else, new updates broke the fixes from before, just sad
          - main camera picture quality after moths of updates finally could keep up with MiNote10
          - night time pics were horrible, only in the lowest resolution in photo mode it was acceptable
          - aluminum frame scratched with the silicone case; did not happen to any other of my phones.
          Samsung forum started with a pinned by moderators post titled "how to fix crashing apps".
          After i used it as a joke they actually unpinned or deleted that post, i could not find it.
          Samsung lost it's edge after teh S7 battery exploding session.

          Video quality, well i never tried to compare audio, but just the video track, it was quite good on S20Ultra, but not at 8K, the stabilization at 4K was good, but did lag a bit.'

          P40pro video quality is very smooth at 4K, surprisingly the worst night time videos from the phones i mentioned, nearly all pictures with fake colors, just not good enough.
          If huawei keeps on using those YYGB(?was it?) sensors, they will lose more customers, it can take ridiculously bright pictures at night, but those pictures are not what you want.

          MiNote10 Video at 4K did lag a lot, that phone is not a performance lover.

          Now 11Tpro, video and photo mode almost copied from Samsung, too bad, the 27MP on the MiNote10 were very good to view on a 4K screen. Not teh case with the 9MP pics :|
          Video quality is very good, can't claim any specific lag unless i use stabilization. Even 8K seems not to be impressing the CPU, but drains battery.
          11Tpro has things that made me love it:
          - fingerprint scanner in power button, just awesome, works fantastic
          - flat screen, not curved
          - the option of charging with 120W, blazing fast
          - is almost as fast as P40pro, and definitely faster than S20ultra and has better speakers.

          If i had to build a phone myself, i would take everything from Huawei, but not the cameras, Xiaomi for now does it best.
          For ppl who want a phone that reads your mind and makes the screen work each time perfectly, Huawei is the thing, it's sad US did what they did.

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            • 27 Jan 2022

            krissy, 27 Jan 2022you know, i compared cameras from P40pro vs S20Ultra vs MiN... moreI also had Mi Note 10 Pro, Huawei P30/P40 Pro (took from friends for testing), Note 20 Ultra - anyway was not impressed with Mi Note 10's audio rec. Bad.. I mean best tests is to film some noisy environment - weddings, dance competitions, concerts (vocal, accoustic, rock etc) - as I'm more into mobile videomaking than photography (though Mi Note 10 Pro had damn good main lens - most detailed image through gcam compared to others with HMX). Samsung did the best for audio by a huge margin, just video recording quality is capped by samsung internally, on xiaomis you have more freedom of tuning via 3rd party apps.
            Huawei is bad too with video, yes yes. Even P50 Pro does only good in photos, videos still no go.
            Look Xiaomi Mi 11 regular model recorded 96kbps then I bought it last January, now I sold to my colleague and gues what - after a year of many updates (CH ROM) it still records at the same bitrate. Big shame!
            Im 100 percent sure it will be same on 12 Pro. And its not hardware problem. Biggest problem as they put nice hardware but its dead without optimised SW.. And they are not improving, I mean MIUI 13 is buggy mess even after 2 updates in sequence.
            Processing power/capabilities are given by instruction set from qualcomm, just none of manufacturers fully implemented that SD would offer.. It was with SD865, it was with SD888 and this release is so rushed, I can't even think of.
            My suggestion is to stay away from current xiaomi releases. Hold for a while to see how it goes, because considered what nice fan base they have, they actually do not listen to customers. Neither Samsung, your'e right.

              Look, 27 Jan 2022Krissy, you went too much deep there, as I am just statin... moreyou know, i compared cameras from P40pro vs S20Ultra vs MiNote10, actually only pictures, but i took also videos at night to compare night time videos....
              worse audio seems to be P40pro, best is MiNote10(96kbps) and second is the S20Ultra, which captured my heartbeat from my hands i guess. Well, video is not what i am interested in. I am just stating what i observed myself. Also the fact that compare to Samsung, Xiaomi does listen to their customers.
              If the audio is somewhat bad due to software bugs, they will fix it. If it is a hardware problem, then it is obviously not possible.
              However, i think that with that processing power that the 12pro has, it could even fix up the audio from a not so good microphone.

              And, this phone has been released just few weeks ago, wait 6 months and see then, bcoz by that time more users will own it and will send feedback.

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                • 27 Jan 2022

                krissy, 27 Jan 2022my other reply to your comment will appear at some time lat... moreKrissy,
                you went too much deep there, as I am just stating, that even 96kbps can be played out good, if the equipment is pro level (as you mentioned, bigger highend mic, distance, noise reduction/filters *also density, material, size matters).
                THE THING IS, that Xiaomi records sounds bad. JUST BAD. I've been owner and tester on many xiaomi phones, both samsung, LG, sony and few apple devices over these 10 years, that I would state that only Mi 10 Pro / 11 Pro and 11 Ultra can record really decent sound via native app (ok, excellence is for 11U side of that extra mic), but it does not reach quality of audio recorded via S9, S10, S20 or S21 best phones (Note, ultra etc). Also not close to LG, even if 24bit there's only container for that, but not actual real data (marketing gimmick, ok ). Apple devices also filters noise records very good quality from loud sources (big chatter, concerts, fireworks etc. Xiaomi are trailing behind competition a lot, and if that latest 11U succeeded to come closer with quality, the 12 Pro smashed back down the hill a lot.. From samples it sounds worse than bad Mi 8 audio rec..

                  Yep, 27 Jan 2022Higher bitrate does not mean better audio - thats a point i... moremy other reply to your comment will appear at some time later.
                  Putting that aside. you can not have 24bit quality with a smartphone mic.
                  You can save data in any form you want to, it does not mean it has high quality.

                  Requirements for recording high quality audio:
                  - high end microphone, not a smartphone
                  - close distance to the microphone
                  - if possible noise reducing panels etc.
                  - filters for the microphone, for example 'dual screen pop blocker'

                  The reason 96kbps and 320kbps won't make much difference for outdoors recording is the cap on the frequency.
                  Most ppl can't hear sound with frequency beyond 16kHz, it's a myth about ppl hearing 20kHz, only some kids can hear 20kHz.
                  Why did i mention this? 96kbps -> cap at 15kHz; 320kbps ->19.5kHz ;
                  Human vocals can't really exceed the frequency that can be heard by other ppl, it would make no sense. Thus human voice has a frequency range that can be heard by literally everyone, and is max 8kHz as far i recall - making 96kpbs overkill for voice recording.
                  Only young musicians can or could tell difference between 256kbps vs 320kbps.

                  Search on youtube for '64, 128, 192 kbps VS 320 KBPS' , but use some good headphones, else 64kbps will be same as the rest of the samples.
                  Needless to mention, that the phone speaker, maybe the one from Sony could actually play it so that you con tell difference, but most phones won't be able to play it that well.

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                    • 27 Jan 2022

                    krissy, 27 Jan 2022higher bitrate does not necessarily mean higher quality. ... moreHigher bitrate does not mean better audio - thats a point i could agree with you.
                    But thing is that Xiaomi even with 320kbps using Poco F3 records very mediocre sound. Samsung A52 series does better, though..Only worth a note is Mi 10 Pro, Mi 11 Pro and Mi 11 UIltra, which records really good audio, still unmatched for Samsung S21U, Iphone 12,13 series or those old LG phones, who did even 24bit audio rec!
                    WIth 12 Series of xiaomi, in audio recording is so big regress, that it comes back to Mi 5 series at best.

                      Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022Mi 10 Pro - 320kbps Poco F3 - 320kbps Mi 11 Ultra - 320 k... morehigher bitrate does not necessarily mean higher quality.

                      It's like you have a108MP camera with a dirty or broken lens vs 12MP camera with clean lens. That is how i see your argument.

                        really, 27 Jan 2022Hei Xiaomi "Defender" fanboy-agent krissy, you pr... more"As I see in instagram somebody posting some moments from their concert and hear cracking distorted audio, I can easily bet that its coming from xiaomi, realme, oneplus cheap chinese phone.. "

                        oh yea, your social media experience is very professional "Enough said about knowledge." yea.

                        I bet all social media store high quality audio and video files.....oh wait, they don't lol
                        So not only, maybe' was the source audio not so awesome, but then got processed by some social media, and you played it on? let me guess, your phone? and that is your judging of quality?

                        putting that aside, you have never been on any concert, the music is usually so loud , that for example, a phone's mic can't pick it up and the level hits the cap, making a mess out of whatever you try to record.

                        As i said, you need a mic with a filter, a dedicated microphone with a filter.

                        "...ashamed to share their recordings in music events on social networks."
                        i remember going on some festivals and concerts to have fun, not so i can update my status and spend time recording videos instead :))

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                          • 27 Jan 2022

                          krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreActually, I find the opposite to be true. The crappier the microphone the more having an higher bitrate matters. Otherwise, basic features get lost (i.e., you don't hear all the essentials that should be records) and you most certainly shoot yourself out of the "lets post-process this later" lifeline. In turn, high quality microphones usually have pretty good fundamentals that allows them to sound great at pretty much any sensible bitrate.

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                            • 27 Jan 2022

                            krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreHei Xiaomi "Defender" fanboy-agent krissy, you probably are deaf or inaudible if you claim that 96kbps vs 320kbps makes no sense :D really?
                            Especially if you go to dxomark and trust their scores .. Enough said about knowledge.
                            Thing is, go to a concert, and please record with Xiaomi Mi 11T, Mi 12 series smartphone and compare recorded sound quality to S20's. Even S7 back in time recorded higher quality audio.
                            Xiaomi is so bad there at audio recording, that people are ashamed to share their recordings in music events on social networks. As I see in instagram somebody posting some moments from their concert and hear cracking distorted audio, I can easily bet that its coming from xiaomi, realme, oneplus cheap chinese phone.. Only Mi 10 Pro, Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra records audio good, even if Poco F3 records at 320kbps, it sounds very mediocre. Tested that..

                              krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreMi 10 Pro - 320kbps
                              Poco F3 - 320kbps
                              Mi 11 Ultra - 320 kbps

                              BUT... Mi 12 Pro - 96 kbps (?)
                              Enough said.

                                Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagshi... morethe audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so little, if at all, that it makes no sense. It would be a different case if you had a professional microphones with some filters on.
                                Only when you record music it will make some difference.
                                Samsung S20Ultra does 265kbps, Huawei P40pro 192kbps and two xiaomi phones i have go with 96kbps, i can't tell the difference in audio. And if you will be recording outdoors, you will never notice. Of course, if you use some good headphones, but if you play it on TV or a phone, you can have the highest quality audio and it won't make it sound better than the one of xiaomi.

                                Go DXOMARK, S20Ultra got worse score for recording than 11Tpro and Huawei P40Pro, even tho S20Ultra records with 265kbps, how could that happen right?

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                                  • 27 Jan 2022

                                  Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagshi... more96kbps??? So lame.. I've seen in review videos that video samples sounded badly and very distorted.
                                  Also the video footage was very lagging /chopping using Ultrawide and Tele lens. That I would believe could be fixed with SW updates, but what about audio? Mi 11 also recorded very badly in 96kbps (still sounded better than 12 series), but it never got to normal audio quality with updates for more than year have passed.. Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra records audio in 320kbps, so its not understandable at all.. Very cheap act, providing some nice and flagship specs, on the other hand giving some times even worse quality than midrangers or budget phones do.

                                    Ip 68 user, 31 Dec 2021NO any damn IP STANDARD for so-named flagship level smartph... moreAgreed. Even Samsung's midranger A52 has it.

                                      I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagship, what? And 96kbps audio for video.

                                        mimo200, 26 Jan 2022Bro I recorded a 15-minute clip outside and nothing happened.it will affect any phone, it first has to face extreme heat, maybe as much as 50*C, then suddenly low temperatures. For example, you work in a restaurant in the kitchen near a stove, and once a while you go to the deep-freeze room.

                                        What happens is this = when the phone is hot, the air inside it expands and escapes from the phone, no problem yet, but when you get to a very cold place, the air in the phone loses on volume, it then sucks in air from outside. If you do it multiple times, some humidity will make it inside, essentially enabling the fog on the inside of the camera. This will happen with anything that has same construction.

                                        Knowing this, means you know how to effectively get rid of that problem.
                                        Just put the phone with a lot of rice in a jar, and keep on reheating it, over and over again, best with the SIM slot removed.

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