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Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022Mi 10 Pro - 320kbps Poco F3 - 320kbps Mi 11 Ultra - 320 k... morehigher bitrate does not necessarily mean higher quality.

It's like you have a108MP camera with a dirty or broken lens vs 12MP camera with clean lens. That is how i see your argument.

    really, 27 Jan 2022Hei Xiaomi "Defender" fanboy-agent krissy, you pr... more"As I see in instagram somebody posting some moments from their concert and hear cracking distorted audio, I can easily bet that its coming from xiaomi, realme, oneplus cheap chinese phone.. "

    oh yea, your social media experience is very professional "Enough said about knowledge." yea.

    I bet all social media store high quality audio and video files.....oh wait, they don't lol
    So not only, maybe' was the source audio not so awesome, but then got processed by some social media, and you played it on? let me guess, your phone? and that is your judging of quality?

    putting that aside, you have never been on any concert, the music is usually so loud , that for example, a phone's mic can't pick it up and the level hits the cap, making a mess out of whatever you try to record.

    As i said, you need a mic with a filter, a dedicated microphone with a filter.

    "...ashamed to share their recordings in music events on social networks."
    i remember going on some festivals and concerts to have fun, not so i can update my status and spend time recording videos instead :))

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      krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreActually, I find the opposite to be true. The crappier the microphone the more having an higher bitrate matters. Otherwise, basic features get lost (i.e., you don't hear all the essentials that should be records) and you most certainly shoot yourself out of the "lets post-process this later" lifeline. In turn, high quality microphones usually have pretty good fundamentals that allows them to sound great at pretty much any sensible bitrate.

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        • 27 Jan 2022

        krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreHei Xiaomi "Defender" fanboy-agent krissy, you probably are deaf or inaudible if you claim that 96kbps vs 320kbps makes no sense :D really?
        Especially if you go to dxomark and trust their scores .. Enough said about knowledge.
        Thing is, go to a concert, and please record with Xiaomi Mi 11T, Mi 12 series smartphone and compare recorded sound quality to S20's. Even S7 back in time recorded higher quality audio.
        Xiaomi is so bad there at audio recording, that people are ashamed to share their recordings in music events on social networks. As I see in instagram somebody posting some moments from their concert and hear cracking distorted audio, I can easily bet that its coming from xiaomi, realme, oneplus cheap chinese phone.. Only Mi 10 Pro, Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra records audio good, even if Poco F3 records at 320kbps, it sounds very mediocre. Tested that..

          krissy, 27 Jan 2022the audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so lit... moreMi 10 Pro - 320kbps
          Poco F3 - 320kbps
          Mi 11 Ultra - 320 kbps

          BUT... Mi 12 Pro - 96 kbps (?)
          Enough said.

            Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagshi... morethe audio quality gain between 96kbps and 320kbps is so little, if at all, that it makes no sense. It would be a different case if you had a professional microphones with some filters on.
            Only when you record music it will make some difference.
            Samsung S20Ultra does 265kbps, Huawei P40pro 192kbps and two xiaomi phones i have go with 96kbps, i can't tell the difference in audio. And if you will be recording outdoors, you will never notice. Of course, if you use some good headphones, but if you play it on TV or a phone, you can have the highest quality audio and it won't make it sound better than the one of xiaomi.

            Go DXOMARK, S20Ultra got worse score for recording than 11Tpro and Huawei P40Pro, even tho S20Ultra records with 265kbps, how could that happen right?

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              Caffeinate, 27 Jan 2022I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagshi... more96kbps??? So lame.. I've seen in review videos that video samples sounded badly and very distorted.
              Also the video footage was very lagging /chopping using Ultrawide and Tele lens. That I would believe could be fixed with SW updates, but what about audio? Mi 11 also recorded very badly in 96kbps (still sounded better than 12 series), but it never got to normal audio quality with updates for more than year have passed.. Mi 11 Pro/ Ultra records audio in 320kbps, so its not understandable at all.. Very cheap act, providing some nice and flagship specs, on the other hand giving some times even worse quality than midrangers or budget phones do.

                Ip 68 user, 31 Dec 2021NO any damn IP STANDARD for so-named flagship level smartph... moreAgreed. Even Samsung's midranger A52 has it.

                  I'm giving up on Xiaomi. USB 2.0 on their 2022 flagship, what? And 96kbps audio for video.

                    mimo200, 26 Jan 2022Bro I recorded a 15-minute clip outside and nothing happened.it will affect any phone, it first has to face extreme heat, maybe as much as 50*C, then suddenly low temperatures. For example, you work in a restaurant in the kitchen near a stove, and once a while you go to the deep-freeze room.

                    What happens is this = when the phone is hot, the air inside it expands and escapes from the phone, no problem yet, but when you get to a very cold place, the air in the phone loses on volume, it then sucks in air from outside. If you do it multiple times, some humidity will make it inside, essentially enabling the fog on the inside of the camera. This will happen with anything that has same construction.

                    Knowing this, means you know how to effectively get rid of that problem.
                    Just put the phone with a lot of rice in a jar, and keep on reheating it, over and over again, best with the SIM slot removed.

                      Well, 26 Jan 2022You dont get a point. Its not problem of humidity in a ph... moreYou are very funny by saying "...Apple does not have problems like this.... "

                      here a guide for you on "how to remove moisture on iphone camera lenses" :
                      https://photovideolounge.com/3127/remove-moisture-on-iphone-camera/

                      Enjoy the guide. I'm pretty sure they made the guide bcoz no iPhone is affected by that.

                        well, 26 Jan 2022Turn on your camera being outside and take pictures, shoot ... moreBro I recorded a 15-minute clip outside and nothing happened.

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                          mimo200, 26 Jan 2022Hello guys, the phone finally arrived today. Impressions: ... moreTurn on your camera being outside and take pictures, shoot video for 1min :) you'll see :)

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                            • 26 Jan 2022

                            Hello guys, the phone finally arrived today. Impressions:
                            - 0-100% speed is 18-19 minutes
                            - The camera is unbelievably good, zoom is decent
                            - No lens issue so far (it's -9°C here)
                            - Haven't had problems with MiUI, no bugs/glitches/ads
                            - Only thing I hate is that the adaptive fresh rate never goes to 1 Hz (lowest it can go is 10)

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                              krissy, 26 Jan 2022interesting, i actually never had a phone with such problem... moreYou dont get a point.
                              Its not problem of humidity in a phone, as humidity just intensifies of level of condensation.
                              Apple does not have problems like this.
                              Samsung had only with Note 20 Ultra, as it was crappy exynos 990 overheating next to huge camera module. But they managed to fix it with some of heat shield probably, as the internal desing decisions let them do fix.
                              On 12 /12 Pro the issue is worse. Because it condensates only then camera is turned on. Not because of fast change of air temp, environment. It condensates because it heats too much and those camera modules are sticked with snapdragon on the same lust. Thats issue of internal component design, a flaw.
                              And with SD8gen1 heating that much they will let and spread those crappy devices on market. The officials of company even did not accepted that this is a fact!! Xiaomi, you loose reputation from its customers, as it was slowly built during time, but now those bad releases makes it worse..

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                                • 26 Jan 2022

                                The phone is expensive, even if compared directly to iPhone 13. You know, I think the better comparison would be iPhone 13 Mini, cuz Xiaomi couldn’t make a smaller screen, noting that it was so tough getting to iPhone 13 size.
                                The price might seem ‘cheap’ at first. But, after what I’ll tell you, you’ll look at it differently.
                                iPhone has a high trade in value, not to mention resale value. Xiaomi trade in, say for Mi 8 or Mi 9 is granting you sht money. iPhone X at bare minimum storage configuration grants a lot (I can’t pinpoint where you live, just check it). iPhone ‘ten’, which was like so many years ago. So that to me makes the price about even.

                                But then, you’ll have to do the comparison. Maybe the only downside will be charging speed for iPhone. But for Xiaomi, you’re paying a premium to experience a lot of bugs, them abandoning the updates to your phone, a lot of quality assurance (like water resistant as example) are not there. Remember, this is a premium phone, I’m labelling it that.

                                You can experience iOS, don’t worry about China spying or whatever (I know that you are from India). Good selfie camera. Look what those idiots told you, 108 MP and you iPhone stuck on 12MP sht. In the end, Xiaomi themselves admitted it by shoving a 50MP cam into their latest flagships. Sony made all these primary lenses, but Sony placed a triple 12MP configuration of camera into their own Super Costly Flagship like Apple.

                                If you disagree, it’s fine. I’m sharing my opinions and I hope that you find this helpful.

                                I need to mention Xiaomi kept raising their prices, they were the ones who were competing with very affordable flagships, but now it’s just done. Don’t support them, no more!

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                                  • 26 Jan 2022

                                  krissy, 26 Jan 2022search the web for "10 iPhone Features Apple ‘Shameles... moreApple copied android, and android copied Apple.
                                  But Xiaomi is on another level. They go on stage, saying they are gonna aim at Apple. This new ‘small screen’ device is directly aimed at iPhone 13. The wallpaper and MIUI as a whole is the UI that ripped off the most out of others.
                                  To exaggerate things, they are basically saying we will be ripping the fk out of Apple.

                                    Well, 26 Jan 2022Only first batch of Note 20 Ultra had fogging lens, that wa... moreinteresting, i actually never had a phone with such problems, and when i searched for "condensation on phone camera lenses" ,i got results for Samsung, iPhone any many many more, seems like a global problem to me, no?

                                    After all, the camera module would have to be glued to the glass back, making a glass back repair costly and the assembly of the phones slightly more expensive....so on pretty much most of the phones, from all brands, the air trapped inside of the phone has some humidity, as well as the SIM/microSD card slot gives the air acces to the insides of the phone....

                                      Anonymous, 26 Jan 2022just realized but the wallpaper is a clear iphone 13 knocko... moresearch the web for "10 iPhone Features Apple ‘Shamelessly Copied’ from Android Phones".
                                      just saying.

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                                        • 26 Jan 2022

                                        just realized but the wallpaper is a clear iphone 13 knockoff

                                        jesus christ china has zero shame