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  • 13 Nov 2023

highwind, 12 Nov 2023Even if you said it before and repeat it another five times... moreFunny how you completely disregard the arguments I wrote just to launch personal attacks against me. But nevertheless, the exact same can be said about you. Your whole argument from the very beginning is that the headphone jack serves no purpose except using space inside the phone with no usefulness to it whatsoever to the user, which obviously cannot be farther from the truth. If so, why do consumers still buy adapters to this day, just so they can use their audio devices with their phones ?
The diametral volume of a headphone jack does, just like any other hardware, take some room inside the phone. But even if I go with your argument that it helps with additional 300mAh in battery size (which I couldn't find no source backing that claim), it does not mean companies used that space for the ultimate good of their consumers. In fact most of them who got rid of the port either kept the batteries in the same size, or in the case of Apple and their "crusades against the 3.5mm", SHRANK the batteries of the next generations. And this is not limited to batteries either, no company provided any other additional hardware feature. So all in all, they took the headphone jack and consumers got nothing in return.
High-end devices with no headphone jack keep going up in sales because people have no other choice, even after companies removed a lot of the essential features. The only company that is still including that feature is Sony, and their phones cannot compete in the market.
Your argument about adapters is laughable. Using them as a "solution" to a feature that was removed unnecessarily from devices sounds just like "You already have a charger at home". It's the exact same argument used by companies to make excuses just so they can save huge amounts of money, while -again- the users get nothing in return.
But yeah, no matter how much fanboyism you do, and no matter how many times you call me a "conspiracy theorist", that won't change the reality. Which is that the 3.5mm is an industry standard, and removing won't give the consumer anything instead. Being with or against the headphone jack does not mean you have to defend companies' decisions just so you can sleep at night.

    andibad, 08 Oct 2023They just removing an essential feature by claiming as &quo... moreBla bla bla bla bla bla bla

    There's seriously nothing we can do about it, move on. Having to pay for cloud storage ain't an excuse - in fact, I noticed one even offers 1tb for free! Collecting your data? They can't abuse it anyway.

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      • 1984
      • gqg
      • 13 Nov 2023

      "Because you cannot afford USB-C to 3.5mm adapter for ~2USD?"
      The problem is that they very easily break...even those who cost a bit more.

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        • Bladeflint
        • wra
        • 13 Nov 2023

        Aw crap, gonna need another dangly bits to use a jack port now huh? freakin sony wh1000mx4 died on me after 2 years, hope my next mx5 will be good for long enough

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          • highwind
          • swI
          • 12 Nov 2023

          Anonymous, 04 Nov 2023As I said before, the headphone jack taking up space is not... moreEven if you said it before and repeat it another five times: the headphone jack taking up space is not a myth but a physical fact!
          People denying physical facts, calling them "a myth" and making up (nonsense) claims for their pseudo-argumentation instead are commonly called conspiracy theorists.

          Any technical expert telling without a shred of a doubt that the space gained from the removal is negligible is not a technical expert but a clueless donkey!
          The diametral volume of a 3.5mm jackport (incl. housing and wiring) in a smartphone is about as much as an additional 200-300mAh of battery size!
          Its also bigger than most SoCs from current smartphones!
          Callling it "negliable" in an environment where every mm³ is considered important is just illogical nonsense!

          Exactly, the usefulness of this feature is decided by the end-users - and going by the sales figures of the high end devices from the different manufacturs those end-users buy smartphones without 3.5mm jack in vast quantities! Either because they dont use wired headphones (anymore) or because they are smart enough to connect them via USB-C.

          Claiming that the 3.5mm jack removal is just for pushing people into wireless products while completley ignoring the fact that wired headphones can still be connected to any current phone (over USB-C) is -again- just illogical nonsense.
          It is completely obvious NOT like the removal of the charger because you DO need a charger to power a phone battery, while you DO NOT need a 3.5mm jack to connect wired headphones to a phone!

          But jeah, enough for me "discussing" with illogical yesterdayers.
          Most 3.5mm jacks are gone for good with the remaining following within the very next generations of phones - and luckily conspiracy theorists denying facts and making up illogical nonsense wont change anything about it. Keep crying and denying while enjoying your old / low end smartphone still featuring this ancient (and soon-to-be relic) port.

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            • Anonymous
            • swI
            • 12 Nov 2023

            BroYouGotNoClue, 05 Nov 2023I work for a major smartphones company that I won't na... moreAnd I am the king of the UK...

            Cost of a 3.5mm jack is next to non-existant and even if that would be a factor: why do especially the cheap, low end phones (where component cost is much more of a factor because of much slimer margins) STILL usually have them, while the more expensive, high(er) end phones mostly lost them?
            I will give you the answer: Because your made up "argument" is purely nonsense!

            Open any phone with a headphone jack and just look at how much of internal space this thing takes up (including the wiring and case/partition)!
            This space high(er) end devices just dont have for something that is 100% superfluous (as USB-C has audio out and noone needs two of those)!

            Accept it or dont - the trend is clear and if you like to cry about something gone for good and making up nonsense reasoning about the "why", then feel free

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              • Anonymous
              • swI
              • 12 Nov 2023

              CamoGeko-XDA, 08 Nov 2023I think I will get the Pro version instead during the 11/11... moreBecause you cannot afford USB-C to 3.5mm adapter for ~2USD?

                Shani, 08 Nov 2023And what about 0.56 um pixel size lolHaven't you heard about pixel binning? It has 1/1.4 sensor which is flagship territory

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                  • kitonas
                  • 8wa
                  • 09 Nov 2023

                  Anonymous, 08 Nov 2023Hi, on 11/11 the prices of these phones will go down here i... moredoes it support CDMA? or any links for 11/11 sales?

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                    • Anonymous
                    • 9hj
                    • 08 Nov 2023

                    CamoGeko-XDA, 08 Nov 2023I think I will get the Pro version instead during the 11/11... moreHi, on 11/11 the prices of these phones will go down here in China?

                      I think I will get the Pro version instead during the 11/11 sale.

                      It has a headphone jack which is important to me!

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                        • 08 Nov 2023

                        Anonymous, 07 Nov 2023Redmi for me was always the maximum amount of hardware for ... moreAnd what about 0.56 um pixel size lol

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                          • Anonymous
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                          • 07 Nov 2023

                          Redmi for me was always the maximum amount of hardware for minimum buck , but with their recent iterations that equation has changed drastically.software was never really their forte. This one seems like a wannabe flagship midranger like nothing phone 2 territory , but unlike nothing this will not provide a desired software experience. Also deleting the pre-existing ports which was available before,they should have removed that macro, probably would have gotten a lot more 'space'. Also why the curved glass m

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                            • 05 Nov 2023

                            highwind, 02 Nov 2023Do you really fail to realize how much internal space a 3.5... moreI work for a major smartphones company that I won't name and let's say am involved with the entire chassis design. The headphone jack removal have nothing to do with reducing space neither it was for water proofing. The 3.5mm jack port was removed to save money in production while making more per product and one of those products are wireless earphones.
                            I advice you to check the diameter of new major top of the line phones like iPhone, Samsung, GPixel and Xiaomi. If you find a real reason other then losing money for why they can't fit a 3.5mm jack port in there without IP rating.
                            Same thing applies to vapor chambers and similar cooling solutions.
                            Don't worry though I promise you that our reasons for removing the type-C port are justified and our engineers are working to solve all the downsides for such a thing one of them being delay and efficiency.... Make me wonder what that means

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 04 Nov 2023

                              highwind, 02 Nov 2023Do you really fail to realize how much internal space a 3.5... moreAs I said before, the headphone jack taking up space is nothing but a myth started by Apple to extort more money from their loyal fanboys. Any technical expert would tell without a shred of a doubt that the space gained from the removal is negligible, so there's very little to gain.
                              The usefulness of this feature is decided by the end-users, and headphones/earphones companies who are, and wouldn't guess it, still producing their wired products with a 3.5mm aux audio cable. And those aren't going down anytime soon in sales.
                              What you really still fail to realise is that the removal of this feature is only to promote and boost the sales of their wireless audio devices, nothing else. This is just like the removal of the charger from the box (which was started by Apple too), where the end-user is the only one who bears up all the additional costs of buying other products, on top of the already overpriced phone they just bought, and all this under the purpose of "saving the environment", exactly just like "saving up space".

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                                • nsF
                                • 04 Nov 2023

                                Hello.How is the camera compare to Redmi Note 12 Pro?Is worth the upgrade?

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                                  • Adeel
                                  • Py$
                                  • 03 Nov 2023

                                  The all Xiaomi Redmi Mobile's are awesome I love this company
                                  Specially Redmi note 14 pro become the features

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                                    • mE0
                                    • 03 Nov 2023

                                    highwind, 02 Nov 2023Do you really fail to realize how much internal space a 3.5... moreMaybe, but being forced to use the dongle to be able to connect headphones is just uncomfortable and looks bad in the pocket. And there are some dual drivers headphones that sounds way better than any wireless headphones.

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                                      • Xqa
                                      • 03 Nov 2023

                                      MiUi 14? Not HyperOS?

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                                        • 02 Nov 2023

                                        Anonymous, 01 Nov 2023Anyone who thinks removing the headphone jack does anything... moreDo you really fail to realize how much internal space a 3.5mm jack uses up or are you just trolling for the sake of trolling?
                                        3.5mm jacks are a completely useless waste on any USB-C phone - and some yesterdayers denying this obvious fact fortunately does not change anything about this thing dying out sooner than later!