Ice Universe: Oppo is working on its own smartphone chipset

30 December 2022
We heard a similar rumor a year ago, back then it was claimed that Oppo is targeting TSMC's 3nm node (which ended up being delayed slightly).

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It would be more interesting if it was ground up like Apple chipsets and make custom cores and GPUs but if any brand wants to make a chipset from scratch

It definitely will be SAMSUNG first not OPPO because of their higher budget and R&D as a tech company

But it doesn't mean they will be the first to get it right like Apple

    Anonymous, 31 Dec 2022Samsung had been talking about Quantum Dot image sensors si... moreActually Invisage made a quantum dot sensor before anyone else, even apparently using it in a working prototype to use to shoot a short film. Its quality was mediocre, at best. Then Apple worked with another quantum dot sensor company, and that project got shelved, since it's quality wasn't too impressive and 8ts costs was too high.

    Samsung and a few TV makers seem to be using quantum dot reasonably successfully. Thought OLED itself seems impressive, so how much more impressive other technologies, for TV really are, needs to be tested.

    Quantum dot image sensor tech has probably been shelved. 16-bit HDR images from 14-bit ADC should Hopefully translate into the next level of imaging that should help smartphone image move to the next generation.

      Demon Slayer, 30 Dec 2022Samsung spent 10 years making their own chip and each year ... moreAndroid SoC History

      (2010)
      SGS1 Exynos 3110 \\ Snapdragon S1 (Nexus One)
      SGS2 Exynos 4210 \\ Snapdragon S2 (Sony Ericsson Arc)
      Note1 Exynos 4212 \\ Snapdragon S3 (Sony Xperia S)
      SGS3 Exynos 4410 = Snapdragon S4-Plus (Sony Xperia V)
      Note2 Exynos 4412 / Snapdragon S4-Pro (Nexus 4)
      SGS4 Exynos 5410 / Snapdragon 600 (HTC One M7)
      Note3 Exynos 5420 // Snapdragon 800 (Sony Z2)
      SGS5 Exynos 5422 / Snapdragon 801 (Sony Z3)
      Note4 Exynos 5433 \ Snapdragon 805 (Nexus 6)
      SGS6 Exynos 7420 \\ Snapdragon 810 (Sony Z5)
      Note5 Exynos 7420+ \\ Snapdragon 810+ (Nexus 6p)
      SGS7 Exynos 8890 \ Snapdragon 820 (Sony XZ)
      Note7 Exynos 8890+ \ Snapdragon 821 (Pixel 1)
      SGS8 Exynos 8895 = Snapdragon 835 (Sony XZ1)
      Note8 Exynos 8895+ / Snapdragon 835+ (Pixel 2)
      SGS9 Exynos 9810 / Snapdragon 845 (Sony XZ2)
      Note9 Exynos 9810+ / Snapdragon 845+ (ASUS RoG 1)
      SGS10 Exynos 9820 // Snapdragon 855 (Sony Xperia 1)
      Note10 Exynos 9825 // Snapdragon 855+ (ASUS RoG 2)
      SGS20 Exynos 990 // Snapdragon 865 (Sony 1 mk 2)
      Note20 Exynos 990+ // Snapdragon 865+ (ASUS RoG 3)
      SGS21 Exynos 2100 = Snapdragon 888 (Sony 1 mk 3)
      S21-U Exynos 2100+ = Snapdragon 888+ (ASUS RoG 5S)
      SGS22 Exynos 2200 = Snapdragon 8g1 (Sony 1 mk 4)
      S22-U Exynos 2200+ // Snapdragon 8g1+ (ASUS RoG 6)
      SGS23 Exynos 2300 // Snapdragon 8g2 (Sony 1 mk 5)
      (2023)

      Final Exynos Points: 14 points
      Final Snapdragon Score: 21 points

      Tally rules:
      2 \\ -1
      2 \ 0
      1 = 1
      0 / 2
      -1 // 2 (\\ means >>)(// means < < )

        Anonymous, 30 Dec 2022It is not worth from financial point of view. - Apple h... moreMediaTek, Samsung, and Huawei can't be directly compared.

        MediaTek had razor thin margins, hence why their chips were always lacking and not quite comparable to Qualcomm which operated moreso on the profitable high-end market.
        Huawei has more money and pull, which is why they made better chips. Even still these were taking the stock designs mixed with stock wafers from TSMC. The trade-war and blacklisting caused their demise.
        Samsung used more silicon per chip, because they can afford it, and because they get better pricing from Samsung Foundry. What affected them was their custom designs. They were usually the best industry trading blows with Qualcomm, until the Exynos 8895 when they had a noticeable efficiency (thus performance) disadvantage against Snapdragon.

        I agree with your assessment but not your conclusion. BBK Electronics is the largest phone producer in the world, they're no small fry. I can see them buyout or more probably partner-up with ARM-China, MediaTek, SMIC, and Imagination Technologies China. Not to mention the Mainland Chinese market is huge, as well as alternative markets; India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Vietnam, Indonesia, Brasil, Mexico, Russia, and African Continent etc etc.

          Anonymous, 31 Dec 2022and then what? "related to security thing" by sen... moreLol, not it's not. Where are you getting this silly idea?

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            SShock, 31 Dec 2022That's not how any of it works. Intel ME is just a CPU... moreand then what? "related to security thing" by sending data to NSA?

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              Anonymous, 31 Dec 2022Watch out. They're going to be the next US national se... moreNahh...BBK/Oppo doesn't have the shady past that Huawei did and still does.

                Itz Banga, 31 Dec 2022Their phones are already bad value for money without this ... moreNot really how it works considering Google Pixel devices are great value.

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                  Watch out. They're going to be the next US national security threat.

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                    TheLastOracle, 31 Dec 2022Without substantial changes and improvements to image senso... moreSamsung had been talking about Quantum Dot image sensors since 2009, i wonder what happened?

                      Without substantial changes and improvements to image sensors, all improvements to ISPs would be only mindly incremental.

                      Image sensors need on-board ISP and 14-Bit and above ADC. And Triple and Quad Gain, for much better HDR (especially for video).

                        Anonymous, 31 Dec 2022oh please you don't know anything about US. do you al... moreThat's not how any of it works. Intel ME is just a CPU subsystem. Guess what, AMD also has one on their Ryzen CPU's. Samsung's Exynos chipsets also have them. Google's Tensor also has it. Microsoft's ARM devices also have it (Titan). These things manage security related things. They were not present decades ago when CPU's were pretty crude compute chips. Now they are very complex devices on its own. What you read and misunderstood is exploitation of said subsystem. It's not Intel secretly spying on you, it's bad actors exploting coplexity of these systems to spy on people. Which is no different than any security issue in operating system or any other device/component.

                          Anonymous, 30 Dec 2022It is not worth from financial point of view. - Apple h... moreHuawei was closer to Qualcomm than it was to Samsung before the US export controls. I agree it's probably not worth it for Oppo, but it probably is for the PRC. I'm sure there is some domestic initiative there similar to the chips act in the US to get their tech companies dedicating as many resources as possible. Honestly, SoC design isn't the problem. The fabs in China are just so far behind and they're not able to buy advanced tools from ASML to catch up. They will have to solve that problem first. More companies designing chips is probably just to ensure they are ready for that moment.

                            Anonymous, 30 Dec 2022So Oppo will be now on the entity list just like Hauwei.This was my expectation when I saw the recent announcement about their patent cross-licensing. The Chinese smart phone industry is probably too big to stall out with the entity list at this point. Focusing on the most advanced company, Huawei, was probably more of a strategic move. Ultimately, it won't make a long term difference. It's just buying time. SMIC is already making 7nm FinFET chips. If China or one of their allies are able to design some viable EUV tech it's game over. It's a tricky balance for the west to maintain some level of control without expediting their tech independence. I don't think any country should be able to weaponize the economy in this way, but it is what it is.

                              Anonymous, 31 Dec 2022The only reasons why Huawei was banned was to help American... moreThis is part of the story and I do believe this is a big part even if it's not spun this way in the media. However, the government's claims that Huawei is spying have never been substantiated. It seems to be an it takes one to know one situation. Judging from what our government was caught doing with Prism it's easy to see how they could expect the PRC and Huawei to do something similar. We wind up with a situation of anti-capitalist practices to resolve political matters. It seems a bit hypocritical IMO. I think we should make it a priority to educate our population better so that our tech corporations would never have fallen behind Huawei in the first place.

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                                Anonymous, 30 Dec 2022Huawei is blacklisted because governements believe huawei i... moreoh please you don't know anything about US. do you all know even intel spying on you? just browse intel ME backdoor and then what? blaming Chinese even its west technology?

                                  Their phones are already bad value for money without this
                                  If they do this they're gonna get even more expensive

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                                    • 31 Dec 2022

                                    Expect built in spyware and a similar response to what Huawei got from the international community. And not spyware like Google. This spyware won't be interested in how to make money from your personal information.

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                                      and the first phone with that SoC will be called Maricas Phone by OPPO. 😅

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                                        Anonymous, 30 Dec 2022Huawei is blacklisted because governements believe huawei i... moreIt all takes a Apple ban in China for Apple to fall from the roof, i think they will be careful as whom to ban and not to.

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