Asus Zenfone 8 Flip
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- AnoM
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- 21 Apr 2022
Sin, 08 Apr 2022 Zenfone 8 Flip is so under rated and such a good flagship ... moreNot the best by 2021, but definitely underrated.
All thanks to poor publicity, and also the bad reputation of ROG series.
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- 21 Apr 2022
happytux, 06 Apr 2022I just got a Zenfone 8 Flip and I installed Gcam on it and ... moreIt is the Snapdragon 888, both of Qualcomm, Samsung and ARM issue where this generation of SoC is created with powerful in mind, but lost on power saving.
ARM fault is the default architecture of the ARM design which has a power hungry big X1 core.
Samsung fault is having a low yield 5nm manufacturing process, which further causing the power drain issue.
Qualcomm fault is in order to compete with other competitor in the industry, choose Samsung for lower cost, and fail to refine and solve the issue from ARM.
These vendor behind the processor just keep quiet and let the smartphone brand to get blamed on power hungry processor and blame the latter not optimize on their power hungry processor.
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- 08 Apr 2022
Zenfone 8 Flip is so under rated and such a good flagship done right
people don't know what they are missing out on
it even beats flagships in performance is better then any smartphone in Samsung or pixel line up that cost x2 as much
zen phone equal the sony best smartphone in camera that cost 4x as much
selfie camera matters
great oled 90hz screen design
only a handful of smartphones out there better then this flagship
only weakness that matters is storage mainly
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- happytux
- JpC
- 06 Apr 2022
I just got a Zenfone 8 Flip and I installed Gcam on it and it becomes really the best selfie cam, astonish photos, I love it!
But I was expecting more for the battery, at least in the system power consumption optimization.
Doing tests, according to AccuBattery App it is spending about 420 mA / hour (13%/hour) when the screen is on (regular browsing + chatting, no gaming), and 80 mA /hour (2.5%/hour) screen off (using Greenify and Naptime).
It gave me an approximation that the battery has 3700 mAh, brand new, shipped from Asus. Lasting 8 hours screen on (dim screen light), and 37 hours screen of. I have to charge it to about 80% to prevent wear, so it lasts me only 6 hours.
Was I getting high expectations for a supposedly 5000 mAh battery? Or is it just poor optimization?
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- Anonymous
- JpC
- 28 Mar 2022
Anonymous, 25 Feb 2022S21 release 2021 Jan, Zenfone 8 Flip release same year May.... moreThey launched zenfone 5, 6 and 8 in May. I would guess that Zenfone 7 launch in August was due to the initial covid disruptions. So I guess Zenfone 9 will probably launch in mid May.
Idk if I can wait or if I will just pick the 8 Flip.
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- 13 Mar 2022
Anonymous, 25 Feb 2022S21 release 2021 Jan, Zenfone 8 Flip release same year May.... moreYes, keep talking about S21, not S21 FE. Typical Samsung supporter, just ignore the rest. Good try again.
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- 07 Mar 2022
It is one of the Asus best smartphones ever made and almost complete spects.Plus being my choice of beautiful options.Thanks GSMarena.
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- Anonymous
- 8js
- 25 Feb 2022
AnoM, 23 Feb 2022Yes, please, keep comparing the non-sense without consideri... moreS21 release 2021 Jan, Zenfone 8 Flip release same year May... Who's late?? I've taken phones at launch and now as a comparison against Zenfone 8 Flips current and launch price. Just because you can not come out with with other factual stuff, but now start pulling vague things like 'cheating'. Like cheating at what exactly? All vendors cheat, including Asus, start with their warranty claims. If they would be as half as popular, they would've got class action suit so bad for their manufacture defects over some many generation of Zenfones, starting with white LCD screen bar of the Zenfone 3.
You're just blubbering as usual.
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- 23 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 23 Feb 2022You can compare them, but you refuse to. Yet just making ro... moreYes, please, keep comparing the non-sense without considering the release date and also without considering the lowered price in the after time.
You are the most "logical". Europe is the only region. Nobody force you to buy ASUS, and Samsung also overpriced with their product, late released, cheating.
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- 8js
- 23 Feb 2022
AnoM, 22 Feb 2022Please, I think you have personal grudge or personal matter... moreYou can compare them, but you refuse to. Yet just making round about claims.
8 Flip release with 799 price tag
S21 release with 799 price tag
S22 now also with 799 price tag...
It not hard is't? Sure, it down to personal preference on the actual purchase decisions. But it NOT perception on the fact it NOT a cheap nor a 'value' phone for what you have to sacrifice for the compromise as I've mentioned earlier. The entire argument is based on your statement 'if pricing is not a concern, go get a Samsung, OPPO, Vivo, Oneplus' while all these brand you mention is not much more expensive than Asus. Sure some of these vendor has higher price tag products - it because it can offers more than what Asus can. But just because Asus doesn't have more expensive competing product you can call it 'value' or 'cheaper'. They have the same competing price product and arguably offers more if look the picture as a whole in the same given price bracket as I've already mentioned before, period. Oh, and really, stop comparing Asus with inferior niche brand and refuse compare to 'Samsung', 'Sony' because they're not "similar" - you can compare them, when the two product is both a 'phone' and selling at the same price segment.
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- 22 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 18 Feb 2022Asus is NOT small... You don't look at particular depa... morePlease, I think you have personal grudge or personal matter with ASUS rather than saying me for loyalty with ASUS.
I view it objectively and that's why I compare ASUS to Chinese brand, because they sell their smartphone more like Chinese brand way rather than Samsung, Sony and iPhone way that selling flagship smartphone in more expensive pricing but with all the best specs.
And always with Chinese brand, they always has models with compromise, but they priced these smartphone lower. From the ASUS Zenfone 8 Flip specs, you can see that it is not a full fledged flagship.
At last, worth or not worth to buy is down to personal perception, that's why some buyer just hate these smartphone despite being cheaper, but with cut corners, same for S21 FE, either you can or cannot live with it. With one exception, S21 FE still got the full fledged S21 Ultra, S21+, but the whole ASUS Zenfone series are all basic flagship that more equal to S21 FE. Then, S21 FE arrived much late in the market, that's why I said it is a no end comparison, I can always wait for the most suitable smartphone to release in the market, but I cannot 100% predict the next smartphone is going to be better or worth buying. Just like I can say the next Samsung S22 Ultra is the best Ultra, I can keep compare to the last year S21 Ultra and say shit about it, because Samsung S22 Ultra is the newer smartphone, and has the time release benefit for being better.
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- Anonymous
- 8js
- 18 Feb 2022
AnoM, 18 Feb 2022Doesn't matter which country I come, I would say ASUS ... moreAsus is NOT small... You don't look at particular department of the company and measure it size by that dept. If that logic applies, the Exynos is a 'small' company trying to make it in the market.
And no, I'm smart enough not to even bother by Oppo, POCO, Vivo (honestly it like a list of subsidiaries of BBK vendors you've listed) which started at niche phone, but price ballooned (like Asus) for no good reason despite still being a 'niche' phone. So know, I don't know what you mean. And if you want talk about Asian countries, I bought Zenfone at the origin of the country, and they have more choices ever since the Zenfone 6... Honestly, I still fail to see what you mean by your statement either than being an hardcore Asus supporter just because you've tried all these niche phone that seemed good for value, but had more problem in the long run and Asus happens to be the better of the bunch you've mentioned. I'll probably give you this - yes, Asus is probably is the better 'compromise' compare to the majority of the vendors you've listed. But it still doesn't change the fact, at the release MSRP (even for the pricing now), there's better choices than the Zenfones.
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- 18 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 16 Feb 2022It not speculation... I did mention EU as a main target des... moreDoesn't matter which country I come, I would say ASUS has tried their best.
They simply is a small smartphone company that struggling to compete in the smartphone market.
All in all, they are only fighting in their niche Asian market that offer high specs smartphone in cheaper pricing which Samsung, Apple and Sony fail to penetrate even with killer model such as Samsung S21 FE.
If you own before smartphone offered by Xiaomi, POCO, Oneplus, Realme, OPPO, Vivo, Honor, Huawei, Lenovo, ZTE, then you will understand what I mean.
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- Anonymous
- 8js
- 16 Feb 2022
AnoM, 16 Feb 2022All your comments are typical user speculations, regardless... moreIt not speculation... I did mention EU as a main target destination. And good majority know what US market is like. And I have own 3 of the Zenfones. I stand by my opinion. Just because you happen to be the countries that S21 FE no longer get the Qualcomm variant, you didn't not bother to list where you live or what choice of phones you have there which pretty much renders your post pointless and non productive argument. Zenfone 8 has very little to offer if you taken in count of everything I've mentioned, unless you have person sentiment over the brand.
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- 16 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 08 Feb 2022Pricing not a concern?? I think only Zenfone 5 and earlier ... moreAll your comments are typical user speculations, regardless of pricing paid, should get all the equivalent features and services, but in reality, this is not happening.
Yes, one should considered all these, but this is a never ending comparison with every newer smartphone.
My country doesn't get the Snapdragon version of S21 FE, and the price gap different is too big for a similar 256GB storage version, unlike what you mention is just 50 buck.
I can only said that, hope ASUS can doing better next time with their smartphone.
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- Anonymous
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- 08 Feb 2022
AnoM, 07 Feb 2022All are due to cost cutting, lower selling price.
I don�... morePricing not a concern?? I think only Zenfone 5 and earlier you can crown Asus with that statement offering great phone at affordable pricing. Pretty much near all the vendor you listed has same/close SoC selling at similar pricing to Asus now and offer better support with more accessories and part.
- 50 bucks more you get S21 FE with the SAME SoC and it new - with longer support
- 150-200 bucks less, you get older but still good SD865 S20FE and same period upgrade (but longer security update) remaining
Both with better parts availability and proper carrier supporting VoLTE and VoWIFI. And that for the EU market when there isn't much Qualcomm offering from Samsung with less competitive market. Else where, there's even more options. Sure the flip camera is nice, but when I was still looking at it, the weight, size and the price simply made me look elsewhere. I move away from Asus, and didn't realize what a good choice that was, and all the compromise I had to to make when using one. And for a minority vendor, you would think they have a good community, but Zen Forum is one of the most toxic community I've seen for quite some time.
Beside die hard Asus fans or ROG gamers fans, I no longer see a point nor can recommend Asus. After 5-years, they remain a niche phone maker but kept increase the price.
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- 07 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 28 Jan 2022- No OIS
- No IP-rating
- No 120hz
- No wireless chargin... moreAll are due to cost cutting, lower selling price.
I don't know about other country such as US and Europe, but this smartphone price has dropped drastically in my country with official presence, and is among the cheapest smartphone with SD888 chip set, huge 256GB internal storage, all screen no notch, and still comes with Micro SD slot, dedicated dual sim slots.
Of course, if pricing is not a concern, go get a Samsung, OPPO, Vivo, Oneplus or Xiaomi for those extra features. This is for those who want practicality, performance at lower price that has cut corners on something.
Well, there might be no more flip camera smartphone by 2022 anymore.
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- Anonymous
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- 01 Feb 2022
Anonymous, 28 Jan 2022- No OIS - No IP-rating - No 120hz - No wireless chargin... moreThe vanilla zenfone 8 doesn't have wireless charging
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- Anonymous
- HDx
- 31 Jan 2022
Romeo, 29 Jan 2022I honestly think that:
-Well,you are right on the OIS..
-... moreTrue about ingress protection. But they could've at least upgraded some of the features.
This phone is basically the Zenfone 7 with a newer chipset.
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- Romeo
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- 29 Jan 2022
Anonymous, 28 Jan 2022- No OIS
- No IP-rating
- No 120hz
- No wireless chargin... moreI honestly think that:
-Well,you are right on the OIS..
-You are not just gonna use your phone in water...
-90hz is still very smooth.
-Wireless charging is simply a waste compared to wired charging
They still need to make the phone at a good price,so they are gonna cut some things