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  • 18 Jul 2023

jpn4, 01 May 2023they sold over 110.000 Fairphones in 2022 that's the b... moreThat's super low numbers

    This phone wis the worst. In my opinion, it's because of the batter, the battery is included in the box. And also in the battery the Sim tray is hiding it. It besides with the battery. So the fairphone isn't fair. #dutchphonesshouldended

      It's now available in the US through murena webshop

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        • 05 Jul 2023

        in my opinion this is the worst phone for 700eur

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          • 11 Jun 2023

          Anonymous, 16 May 2023Thats awesome. I was thinking of getting the 4 but lack ... morePerhaps they will, not sure when they are releasing the FF 5 because they release a new device only once in a couple of years. It might as well be a FF5+ with the newest software and new camera tech like they did with the FF 4+.

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            • 16 May 2023

            jpn4, 01 May 2023they sold over 110.000 Fairphones in 2022 that's the b... moreThats awesome.

            I was thinking of getting the 4 but lack of jack and FM turned me away. Hope they bring them back for the 5

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              • 01 May 2023

              they sold over 110.000 Fairphones in 2022 that's the best year they had and FF4 is doing very well that's a good sign that consumers are looking for phones like this

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                • 07 Mar 2023

                Sin, 01 Mar 2023Yeah exactly Really great replaceability and software supp... morean midranger with eco chipset and a big li-po lasts more than flagships with power hungry chipsets and smaller li-ion batteries and are drained in one day from pc like cpus,dough all phones last 4 years more or less depending if you fuck them up or take care of them

                  you have to suffer, 26 Feb 2023would've been better with fairphone 5 with side punch ... moreThey don't make phones every year. They always focus on spare parts and software support when a new model has been launched.

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                    • 01 Mar 2023

                    Aadrian, 25 Feb 2023With somewhat better hardware the Fairphone should be even ... moreYeah exactly
                    Really great replaceability and software support
                    Fairphone definitely doing a good job in a lot of ways

                    My experience has been you really need strong hardware specs for the os running
                    As future software won't play nice with old hardware or originally designed for it

                    I really liked what was done with the fair phone 2 longevity it's probably the best model they ever made

                    The fairphone 3 & 3+ are going run into problems soon with system requirements 6gb ram capacity minmuim for android 12

                    Google really does handle-cap old phones also by dropping support for older version of android designed for older hardware

                    Fairphone doesn't make phones where you can upgrade the ram or storage solutions too this problem be tough

                    Mid range phones life a short life unlike flagships or gaming phone
                    hardware specs are everything in cases like this

                    Can at least try tackle this problem with virtual ram memory by using storage space as ram capacity swoop space
                    But basically fighting a losing battery here
                    The storage read & writes will be greater I don't know the endurance of there chosen storage

                    Yeah there small company so they can only do so much
                    There mostly good with a mostly good trustpoilt rating

                    In time with hindsight looking back at how phones lasted lessons from history can be learnt
                    is really telling for understanding what too do next time

                    Fairphone seen too have not learned anything from this as there newer phone are very expensive but also very low spec considering and dated hardware specs from the gate

                    For some reason or another every brand that claim longevity seem fall for this same trip
                    Get too fixed on software
                    but overlooking hardware performance and specs
                    They just so blind too the fact Moore law exists and the software crisis

                    Sometimes newest os isn't even the best and os stability more important that's more the landscape of today just build stable smooth experience a static os version actually work well

                    One great example of this is Andy os a pc android emulator was on android 6
                    It's only gotten one os update slow and steady
                    So it's now running android 7 but is more compatible with more apps then newer versions of android right now

                    Google is also locking down android making ever new version as worse in every way possible
                    Android 14 going be grim

                    Often good hardware specs that are designed for the os can work well for that device but only on the original intended hardware

                    Old hardware & new software
                    Just never play nice together or mix well
                    It's like the nature of technology just say don't do this
                    Old phones always pay the price in the end suffering on beta software updates or just can't handle modern os
                    It's never ended well the end

                    I guess some people will choose this fate for phones
                    But it's a painful and slow death & bad user experience

                    But they end up crippled by the os that struggle too do anything modern
                    that's os too new so is also incomplete with more legacy time period stuff that the hardware is suitable for

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                    Like other brands There not perfect and do similar stuff squeeze money out the consumers
                    No brand is all good or bad

                    They are putting notched screens on phones
                    And sadly removed the headphones jack
                    Dated hardware as well

                    There Sorry excuse for the headphones missing is it can be broken so we removed it
                    Not having a headphone jack is the same as it being broken

                    There also selling trying squeeze money out people for these ear buds with limited lifespan very pricey and stop them from using there wired headphones

                    So here and there it's great see other brands become more repairable as competition is needed in this market

                    it's cool they exist but people got think for themselves
                    Look out for what the future beholds
                    Anyway it's cool recognize what am saying and be on the same page

                      would've been better with fairphone 5 with side punch hole display.
                      is this company still in business? they never made phones for a while.

                        Sin, 25 Feb 2023Am not sure how long the fairphone 2 will last Hopefully ... moreWith somewhat better hardware the Fairphone should be even more future proof. I don't think Android nowadays gets sluggy that quickly like it did before but the better the hardware the better it ca handle the OS. Nevertheless the promise Fairphone is making (sustainability, long support both software and spare parts, repairability) is a very good thing and they keep their promise. Hopefully that will urge large bands to follow suit. The company I only small and they don't have access to everything large companies have so I think they're doing an excellent job.
                        For me personally I try to keep my phone for t least 4 years, I had my Note8 for 4,5 years and my S22 Ultra for almost a year now. Due to the high prices and being more environmentally conscious I try not to change phone every year like I used to do.
                        About repairability, glad Nokia and Samsung follow suit with better repairability of their latest phones.

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                          • 25 Feb 2023

                          Aadrian, 16 Feb 2023For longevity of a phone it's indeed important to have... moreAm not sure how long the fairphone 2 will last
                          Hopefully they will least at last 10 year's total lifespans

                          It's a interesting test sample and example of a old phone experiment of how long someone could hold onto a old phone and keep using it

                          Yeah having essential space parts available still and user replaceable battery's
                          Yeah hardware reliability should hold up so early death from hardware failure unlikely

                          So possibly the fairphone 2 can live for longer without needing upgrading too new android phone

                          One should still be able do everything on a fairphone 2
                          And keep it functional and hold out keeping it alive and working

                          I guess it all comes down too at what point a fairphone 2 can't it meet the needs of the user
                          How long till the phone just stops working anymore
                          Or
                          the missing out on the wants that a more modern phone can offer or tempting better phones

                          Phones this old really do show there age in Just how sluggish devices like this really are

                          Even you're topical £75 budget phone on even playing field already with phones like there now

                            Sin, 14 Feb 2023Fairphone 2 Is near end of software support soon Stil... moreFor longevity of a phone it's indeed important to have spare parts, besides having a long lifespan of software support. When I look on their website they still offer some parts for the Fairphone 2, not all parts are in stock or still available but the essentials are available like a new battery. Put in a new battery in a 7 year old Fairphone 2 and you'll be able to use it for another 2 years, albeit without software support. If you then use a phone for 9 years well hats off that's great I think. The average is 3 years, so that 3x the average use.

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                              • 14 Feb 2023

                              For what it's worth looking back at fairphone 2 lifespan

                              Too estimate how well the new ones will last
                              Anyway it's a good read

                              A lot people said interesting stuff

                              https://m.gsmarena.com/newscomm-57123.php

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                                • 14 Feb 2023

                                Fairphone 2
                                Is near end of software support soon

                                Still fair phone did very well for replacement parts etc battery and
                                Also reading about the challenge they overcome for supporting android os for so long
                                Was just reading about it

                                A lot of effort was put into trying get a phone too last the test of time

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                                  • 11 Feb 2023

                                  user, 10 Feb 2023you are paying for the idea and fair trade, it's not a... moreYeah that's great and all

                                  But the poor customer getting serious ripped off by this

                                  This isn't even a good phone it's got a old mid range soc poor storage of only 256gb

                                  Very high asking price

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                                    • 11 Feb 2023

                                    Some research please, 02 Feb 2023The more eco friendly, the higher the price. Why organic fo... moreorganic food is often a little more expensive unfortunately often 30% more expensive

                                    but this by fairphone really pushing it
                                    It's not even that much of a good phone only 256gb storage space old mid range chipset



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                                      • 10 Feb 2023

                                      Sin, 28 Jan 2023The asking price is way too high for what this smartphone c... moreyou are paying for the idea and fair trade, it's not a commercial project, this foundation is not buying resources from conflict region, avoiding environment devastation so cannot offer price like big corporations that are using slaves to produce their devices

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                                        • 02 Feb 2023

                                        Sin, 28 Jan 2023The asking price is way too high for what this smartphone c... moreThe more eco friendly, the higher the price. Why organic food is more expensive? Right. Why is that so difficult to understand? It's not a cheap Chinese phone that has zero eco friendly parts and was made by some children in a dark building with no lights, that can be sold at a near loss because labouers earn none to zero. Besides the company is small and need to make profit.