Honor Magic5 Pro
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- 18 Mar 2023
David 040882, 18 Mar 2023Well, I don't see GSMARENA or Mrwhosetheboss or Marque... moreYes GSMArena said the 1-inch sensors have advantage over the S23 ultra and pretty much any other flagship phone, and that's absolutely true. A phone with a 1-inch sensor should have a clear victory over anything else because it can capture a significant amount of more light and add detail. But guess what? None of them actually do. And that's down to software processing and optimization with their chips. Not to mention the sensor itself is what counts, and Samsung's ISOCELL sensor used in the latest flagships are actually BETTER than the one's on the Chinese flagships, hence why they compensate with the bigger sensor to make up the difference. Why do you think the zoom on the S23 ultra is unmatched? Compare all of those phones you mentioned and none of them can even come CLOSE to what Samsung produces. At some point, someone will catch up to them and beat them at their own game anyway, so I'm not too worried about this.
As for the fake moon photos controversy, I'm not even going to get into that debate as Samsung themselves as well as MKBHD and MrWhoseTheBoss have already cleared up that non-issue that was raised by a moronic anti-Samsung hater in the first place. You have to be technically competent to even have this discussion otherwise it's just a waste of time.
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- JEI
- 18 Mar 2023
ViVo, 18 Mar 2023DXOmark has lost its credibility over the last few years. R... moreWell, I don't see GSMARENA or Mrwhosetheboss or Marques Brownlee saying the S23 Ultra has the best camera. GSMArena actually say that 1-inch sensors (on12S Ultra, 13 Pro, X90 Pro+) have a bigger advantage over Samsungs sensor. Plus, all the fake moon shot thing going on here is not a particularly great thing, you know, to attract customers
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- 18 Mar 2023
David 040882, 16 Mar 2023Yeah I know Honor is no owned by Huawei anymore, I don'... moreDXOmark has lost its credibility over the last few years. Real testing is done by YouTubers and other camera experts that have openly said the S23 ultra is just the best device this year, even in the camera department. Remember, Samsung used to be known for their overblowing of photos, saturation and over sharpening which were really the only issues to begin with. With OneUI 5.0, they reduced that dramatically and pictures/videos are much more real life like now. 5.1 has improved on that further, and later in this month, its rumoured for a big camera update to be released, and we all know Samsung improves it's camera over time through software updates. The full potential of this device is going to be unlocked over time.
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- 18 Mar 2023
[deleted post]You can't buy it anywhere as its not released yet. Maybe next month
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- spY
- 16 Mar 2023
ViVo, 16 Mar 2023Wrong. Honor is not the sub-brand of Huawei anymore, it... moreYeah I know Honor is no owned by Huawei anymore, I don't live in a cave. But I would say that they've picked themselves up quite well and they're slowly becoming the new Huawei. And I mean, if you would trust DXOmark, even though they're not really trustworthy, Honor is on the top at camera. Now I know their ratings aren't accurate. But still, I mean they do some testing after all; even though it might not really be top 1, I still think it should be close
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- 16 Mar 2023
David 040882, 16 Mar 2023I'll have to disagree with the camera part. The Magic ... moreWrong. Honor is not the sub-brand of Huawei anymore, it's now owned by a state-owned enterprise controlled by the municipal government of Shenzhen. They don't have access to the same technology as Huawei did, therefore it's a downgrade. Look at the reviews everywhere, it's an incredibly overrated phone due to the hype. Specs sheet suggests it should have taken the Samsung on toe-to-toe, but it fumbled the bag spectacularly especially in the battery department. Trust me, I'd want nothing better than Samsung to be dethroned, but they listened to the customers and are back in form again.
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- spY
- 16 Mar 2023
ViVo, 15 Mar 2023That's fine. Just know that objectively, this phone is... moreI'll have to disagree with the camera part. The Magic 5 Pro is way better at camera performance that the S23 Ultra. Remember, Honor came from Huawei which made (and still make) the top camera phones
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- Hanif Fikri
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- 16 Mar 2023
ViVo, 15 Mar 2023That's fine. Just know that objectively, this phone is... moreDid you even aware that samsung never good in terms of gaming experience the cooling system is bad even sd8+ gen 1 that came from other brands beats the sd8 gen 2 for galaxy in s23 ultra. How can you say it's better in everything xD
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- 15 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 15 Mar 2023Please, I take this over the S23 Ultra all day long.That's fine. Just know that objectively, this phone is quite a bit worse than the S23 ultra in every way. S23 ultra's camera is better, the battery life is WORLDS better, processor is better and more optimized, and has better software support. Its disappointing because on paper, this looks like a direct competition to the Samsung, but reviews and tests say otherwise. Nothing is gonna touch the S23 ultra and the entire S23 series for a long time, it's literally close to perfection. I had a vivo x70 pro plus up until recently as well, because I knew Samsungs reputation for a while and I haven't had a device from them in 10 years. This is the best thing they've ever done and I can't see how they will improve on it for a while.
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- 15 Mar 2023
This Phone Failed, 14 Mar 2023So now we got the official GSMArena review. And we can see ... morePlease, I take this over the S23 Ultra all day long.
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- 14 Mar 2023
So now we got the official GSMArena review. And we can see that the GPU has extreme throttling problems (GSMArena review) because the cooling sistem is mediocre. The battery life is much worse than S23 Ultra or 14 Pro Max despite boasting "the new silicon carbon technology" the fingerprint sensor is OPTICAL as in 200$ phones and the back cameras are very good, but not the best. And it has to be improved in video or selfie.
So overall conclusion: Not better than Samsung S23 Ultra or iPhone 14 Pro Max and probably even worse than Vivo X90 Pro+ as well. Now mix it up with this ugly design, 109h endurance rating, and 0 software support Honor offers (Honor Magic 4 Pro from April 2022 is still with Android 12 in March 2023) and you got... A BIG FAIL of a phone!
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- Anonymous
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- 14 Mar 2023
If a phone lacks of SD slot and 3.5mm it doesnt worth more than 200 euros.
So you can buy 2 of it and backup each other and you listen music with one and other one for as mobile phone.
I bought Poco F4 GT from somebody for 200 euros, actually I paid a bit much but yeah phone rocks, now im seeking for 2nd one.
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- 14 Mar 2023
Hanif Fikri, 13 Mar 2023battery edurance quite dissappointing for 2023 flagship..sh... moreSoftware optimization and cooling system have to be considered. Different UI means different features and overall optimization. Maybe Honor's cooling system for this phone is not adequate to cool down the excessive heat of the SoC. No one knows.
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- 14 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 13 Mar 2023thank you for this extended review. 50mp portraits were ... moreI have uploaded a 50 mp photo sample from your xiaomi 13 pro review as I have found it is the that actually serves the most usueable image quality, I do so by opening the file in photoshop, zooming in to 200%, if it looks unuseable at 200% then too bad let's go back to 100% and it is usueable at all. Most often no...so if you want detail the only way is to shoot 50mp photos and then to make that photo 40% smaller than what it was, that's about 30mp and it looks good. So the xiaomi 13 pro lets you do that, other brands or maybe models I won't mention just shoot pictures that cannot be used anywhere "professionaly". Open the gsmarena sample in photoshop or gimp, zoom in...100%...open the levels and move them to the left to brighten shadowed and dark areas...xiaomi's is the only one that doesn't reveal complete garbage so far to me. So I've uploaded a quick version of that photo so you can see how much really you can use it after 15 minutes of photoshoping it and it's cool but : some zones are deformed in such an ununderstandable and unfixable way you gotta forget them, but now about the colors and details, truly, gsmarena team please, does it in reality look anything more like this ? https://freeimage.host/i/HXhZRY7
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- 13 Mar 2023
thank you for this extended review.
50mp portraits were a great plus once. The selfies with your friend with the shaved hair are very good, they let us see camera quality, and 32 mp is good enough for replacing what look like no good at all 50mp cameras on one photo out of two like for every other camera.
So the samsung s23 ultra seems to be the only one that doesn't lie too much as 200mp give actual good 50mp files I could use, and seemingly it can shoot those in raw okay, and it's another info we can't grab anywhere...
Let me remind you the definition of a digital camera is a camera that shoots raw files because without that we can't talk decent quality anywhere...it's not even a toy you'd enjoy using, and from what i have seen online the samsung s23 ultra's 200mp cam is the only actually useable 50mp camera in the bunch. All others give about good 12mp shots and that's all. I've been looking for a good actual 50mp or more camera to buy, that has the other cams 50mp as well so I can do my stuff...all-around...that works without flaws and that indeed shoots those "big" 50mp raw files like digital cameras do and I believe I may be able to make my mind about one in maybe a couple of years as I rely on all those hidden flaws that rebuke me that I find in reviews, the big shots we don't see, the info we don't get.
and I believe most buyers are like me, so overall brands should inform better they'd sell more...
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- 13 Mar 2023
battery edurance quite dissappointing for 2023 flagship..should be 120hrs at least. Assuming it has 5.4kmah 7% more from chinese market it only increase by little
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- Anonymous
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- 13 Mar 2023
That pill looks ugly AF and the camera design is too much but still miles better than Huawei phones
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- 10-bit is MARKETING
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- 12 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 12 Mar 2023Samsung s23 phones still uses 8 bit display in 2023. I don&... moreStop talking nonsense because the Xiaomi 13 Pro with its super mega 10-bit screen got a good reality check and in Dxomark screen ranking it got very far from the top 10 while all top 5 are 8-bit screens, 10-bit is good for MARKETING but not useful at all in real life as human eye is not able to see more than 10 million colors. 1B colors is just like having "Leica" printed, just marketing, but in real life that means nothing as Dxomark and comparisons prove the Xiaomi 13 Pro is a disaster and far from 2023 flagships, it's even worse than most 2022 flagships as Dxomark shown it with their professional reviews.
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- 12 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 12 Mar 2023Samsung s23 phones still uses 8 bit display in 2023. I don&... moreThe cameras are the same on Magic 5 Ultimate/Ultra
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- 12 Mar 2023
Anonymous, 10 Mar 2023DXOMark is incredible and professional. What would make you... morethe photos they post on their site as samples and the fact they don't mention on raw file quality for their reviews