LG V60 ThinQ 5G
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- Holoska
- gDj
- 26 Apr 2020
Flagshippo., 25 Apr 2020The thing is...all is nearly perfect except for the res...3... moreWhy would it be 513 ppi when the resolution is only FHD? I don't think a good phone would be under 410 at least
- RishiGuru
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- 26 Apr 2020
scottm-dj, 21 Apr 2020Try to find a V40--that's the best audiophile phone they ma... moreHow is the V40's battery backup compared to your LG V30's? I am worried about V40's battery backup after GSMArena battery endurance tests produced some pathetic results. For a power user like me the V30 barely makes through a day. Will the V40 even last the evening?
In India, we only get the dual SIM version of LG V30+ (B&O) version with 4 gigs of RAM and 128 gigs of internal storage. Currently retails for dirt cheap $150 brand new. I have 2 of them in black & silver as LGs are so cheap in our country. Here, we can have a LG G7+ with 6 gigs of RAM and 128 gigs of internal storage for around $206 wheres V40 is around $270.
Is is worth upgrading from V30 to V40 from headphone audio perspective?
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- 25 Apr 2020
The thing is...all is nearly perfect except for the res...395 ppi...and the camera bump at the back...pls LG make it at least 513 ppi if ever there is an LG v70 thinq and make the back smoother with no horrendous back ...like the smooth back in LG G8 thinq...
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- Anonymous
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- 25 Apr 2020
Hey LG, This phone is nearly perfect for me except for the dual sim global unlocked version. WHEN are you going to release this in Global Dual Sim Version???
Buying this immediately when there is a Global Dual sim, Not buying another carrier version with bloatware, please release it ASAP before others release better options as I cannot wait any longer.
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- 25 Apr 2020
AFS, 24 Apr 2020At last a phone that has all I need!
A. SD865 and 5G so th... moreThis site shows the phone as having audio playback at 32bit 192kHz but other sites are saying that it's 32bit 384kHz.
Do we know which one is correct?
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- AFS
- MEV
- 24 Apr 2020
scottm-dj, 24 Apr 2020WEIGHT is even more a concern. A whopping 230g without the... moreTrue, I haven't noticed that. Pity, that is way too much. But that's what you pay for having a large battery to support the big display.
As far as I know the Samsung s10e which was the last proper compact version of a flagship sold quite well. I bet if LG does something similar in size and weight with specs similar to the v60, downgrading the cameras and display it will be a no brainer option for many people despite LG's bad support on updates. And I am pretty sure LG desperately needs one good selling device at the moment.
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- scottm-dj
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- 24 Apr 2020
AFS, 24 Apr 2020At last a phone that has all I need! A. SD865 and 5G so th... moreWEIGHT is even more a concern. A whopping 230g without the second case? The V30/V40 was about 160g!
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- 24 Apr 2020
Pakalini, 23 Apr 2020These retards ar LG will they ever make notchless display f... moreSay that to Apple and SE 2020's giant bezels.
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- AFS
- MEV
- 24 Apr 2020
At last a phone that has all I need!
A. SD865 and 5G so that it is future proof. B. Quad DAC & 3.5mm jack (being an audiophile anything else is a no go). C. MicroSD support
IP68 is a bonus and I don't care about the rest or the specs.
Only thing that bothers me is the size. If LG makes a G9 with similar specs and keep its size ~ 150mm it will be the obvious choice for my next phone.
Are we such a small target group and there are more phone out there with those specs?
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- PureView_Lover
- tu6
- 24 Apr 2020
Do anyone know the bitrate of manual recording at 8K with highest bitrate enabled?
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- IDc
- 23 Apr 2020
Pakalini, 23 Apr 2020These retards ar LG will they ever make notchless display f... moreAt least its better than stupid punch hole which disturb screen way more than notch
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- Pakalini
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- 23 Apr 2020
usmannaeem, 15 Apr 2020I really hope with the new design LG has teased. The punchh... moreYes! I am still on lg v30+ only because I hate notches,punch holes so much, regardless audio quality.
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- Pakalini
- 0xx
- 23 Apr 2020
These retards ar LG will they ever make notchless display ffs? 2016era design don't fit in 2020.
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- gnajna
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- 23 Apr 2020
scottm-dj, 23 Apr 2020I'd say up to $500--the DAC is extremely well implemented i... moreWhich headset wire to 50€ up to 100€ do you suggest. Is these which we got with phone ok?
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- 23 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2020Thanks. You answered some of my questions. Especially the q... moreI'd say up to $500--the DAC is extremely well implemented in these devices and the Meridian tuning on the V40 up is very smooth. The only caveat is the LGs doesn't seem to like Planar-type headphones very well (noticeably lower power to them). Stick with dynamic (plenty of great choices available), get a 3rd party dedicated music app like UAPP, and you'll have a dynamite player that doubles as a phone too!
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- Scottm_dj
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- 23 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 22 Apr 2020Thanks. You answered some of my questions. Especially the q... moreFor real. I have a V40 and a Fiio M11 PRO as well. I honestly don't hear enough of a difference to warrant the upgrade--and I'm using some very high-quality headphones too. The V50 will have the same sound & tuning as the V40.
- RishiGuru
- uIB
- 22 Apr 2020
Anonymous, 21 Apr 2020Well said bro. That's why I can't go for anything other tha... moreSix months back I bought a Meizu 16th (Meizu 16 in China). At $240, it was a flagship with SD845 & 8GB RAM. Meizu India provided a fully Google certified device with Google playstore pre-installed. In short, pretty awesome performance & built quality for its price.
Meizu has a rich history of making portable music players before they ventured into smartphones and still today makes some very good quality headphones & earphones. As such the company understands sound quality and many of their previous flagships smartphones came with dedicated DAC solutions. However for 16th, sadly their last flagship with a 3.5mm audio jack there was no press material indicated anything extraordinary in the audio department.
I took for granted it was using some low quality audio codec from Qualcomm. However more I listened music through my Meizu 16th, more I fell in love with this device. One day just for fun I sat down a did some critical listening with some expensive earphones, and I immediately noticed the sound quality is above ordinary through the 3.5 mm headphone jack. I started reasoning my mind how is it possible with Qualcomm codecs and Meizu must have done something special.
After going through some Chinese websites performing detailed tear-downs, I found Meizu 16th is using the highest quality flagship audio codec available from Qualcomm. It is Qualcomm Aqstic WCD9341, a dedicated audio chip. With an advertised dynamic range of 130dB & distortion of -109dB during audio playback the WCD9341 is quite close to ESS Sabre ES9218P (LG's Quad DAC) & Cirrus Logic CS43199 (Vivo NEX S). Digging deeper I found Qualcomm partnered and further tuned their flagship WCD9341 under the guidance given by a group of audiophiles known as "Golden Ears". Qualcomm was then able to create custom digital filters which creates the final sound signature which are generally adored by most audiophiles.
However in real life even if these objective measurements are very close to ESS & Cirrus Logic, there still remains a gap that Qualcomm have to fill to the very best in the audio industry. In Meizu 16th tear-downs by Chinese media, I found the WCD9341 audio chip sits under its own tiny metal cover plate with graphite & copper shielding over it. So the chip is completely isolated from the rest of the PCB and its ICs. This complete isolation definitely eliminates a lot of induced noise on the analog stage of WCD9341. Quite impressed as Meizu shelled more money in the production line to make sure the sound quality remains intact through the 3.5 mm audio jack.
The other fact I noticed on 16th is the power available through audio jack is much higher than similar WCD9341 implementations like in OnePlus 6 (sadly the last OnePlus with audio jack). The OnePlus frankly sounds anemic in comparison to 16th, no drive. Meizu seems to have twice as much power and can drive any headphone much better.
Going through the spec sheet I found WCD9341 is designed to perform with power anywhere between 6mW to 34mW, maybe Meizu is providing all the power it needs by dedicated power rails. In short I am truly impressed by Meizu's dedication for sound quality as I see & hear the difference of the same audio chip with drastically different performance levels between Meizu & OnePlus. It is Meizu's good implementation that make the WCD9341 shine. Correct me if I am wrong LG's QuadDAC consumes 2.5 times more power at 80mW but have way more drive capability.
Subjectively, Meizu 16th sound signature is like my LG V30+, which can be best described with words like pristine, neutral, clinical & accurate. However to my tastes WCD9341 easily beats anything from AKM stables, be it AKM AK4376 or AK4376A in sound quality. Drive capability is more or less same.
One of the other reasons I bought Meizu 16th was dual stereo speakers. Each speaker is powered by a dedicated Cirrus Logic CS35L41 amplifier, so sound is loud & crisp leaning more on the musical side rather than being out and out loud.
In the end I am quite impressed with the sound quality and headphone drive capability of Meizu 16th through 3.5 mm audio jack considering that it still uses an audio codec from an unknown brand like Qualcomm in the audio world, though I admit the audio codec is of high quality. Qualcomm deserves credit & also Meizu deserves a pat on their back for bringing to us perhaps the best implementation of Qualcomm Aqstic WCD9341 in a smartphone till date.
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- Anonymous
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- 22 Apr 2020
RishiGuru, 21 Apr 2020Apple intentionally stopped including analogue 3.5 mm audio... moreThanks. You answered some of my questions. Especially the question "Why the flagships lack the headphone jack, but the midrange/budget phones have it?"
Your answer makes sense!
By the way, have you ever compared LG phones with any dedicated audio player?
If yes, then, I've heard some people claming that V50's performance easily matches the $300 DAPs... For real?!
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- Anonymous
- vry
- 22 Apr 2020
Oliver, 20 Apr 2020I would go ahead and buy it, if it would not be a colossus ... moreLol no.
https://old.reddit.com/r/LGV60/comments/g18tc9/my_baby_noooooo_of_course_the_case_is_supposed_to/
- joe nodden
- jpa
- 22 Apr 2020
q, 21 Apr 2020be aware everyone. Xiaomi employee alertHow does pointing out this phone's big flaws make me a Xiaomi employee. I don't need to get paid to tell the truth m8.