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AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021Again it's about special purpose, we don't work f... moreA professional will never say:

1) "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"
2) "So Android mobile phones don't have excellent telephoto! You can even check my photos they are more professional than telephoto taken! So what does it mean there are some STUPID GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE PHOTOS, THEY ARE VERY LAZY GO TO CLOSE TO TAKE SHOT. They don't know the basics of camera"
3) "I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
"Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users."
4) "For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids."

Since you are a "professional" photographer, explain

1) the purpose of different focal lengths regardless of camera
2) for people who want to take pictures of dangerous animals, tornadoes, erupting volcanoes, flood, and ongoing crime, what lenses should they use to document these important situations?

A pro can answer these questions easily, even a technology geek can.

  • AnonD-930503

If I were mobile camera maker, I wouldn't make telephoto and macro cameras! It's fully enough if mobile phone has main camera! And Sony knows how to sell mobile phone, they sell it special people who is ready to pay 2000 us dollars😂

  • AnonD-930503

EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021You: "I didn't say stupid for National Geographi... moreAgain it's about special purpose, we don't work for national Geographic, or I don't leave close to dangerous river! So we don't need it! It's only like you amateurs. It's for those their job pays for photography!

  • AnonD-930503

EliseKlevr, 11 Nov 2021I just used the Xperia as an example of a phone that has te... moreDon't mention about others, it's only you need!

AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021And Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer... moreYou:
"I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
"Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"

You just made a generalized remark.

• National Geographic uses a lot of telephoto lenses because they are clever, not lazy, and most of all, not stupid. Read articles before making remarks:
"Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM lens and a 500mm or 600mm are coming with me as they are the best lenses for bringing what’s far away closer."
—NatGeo contributor photographer

• NatGeo article: "Capturing life in Africa through the lens of a smartphone"
Read for yourself and learn:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/partner-content-capturing-life-in-Africa-with-a-smartphone

NatGeo even teaches smartphone photography. Would it be great if you have a macro and telephoto built into your smartphone? No need to carry heavy, expensive lenses.

I would be thrilled if I can use a smartphone with a good macro and telephoto lenses.

Since the professional lenses presented above are very expensive for ordinary users, then a telephoto incorporated in a less expensive device such as smartphones is obviously not stupid.
In fact, it would be great for consumers.
Do you think smartphone engineers put macro and telephoto lenses on smartphones for no reason?
Do you think they are stupid?

OMG. Your replies are shocking to read.

YUKI93, 10 Nov 2021There's nothing wrong with being stupid, just don'... more😂
100% true.

AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021And Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer... moreI just used the Xperia as an example of a phone that has telephoto lens. I can cite others from few years ago.

As for the crocodile, I used that illustration to counter your argument that clever people don't need telephoto lenses. Go ahead and shoot one with your "normal lens" and let's see how you get dragged into the water right before you'll be able to press that shutter.

We have a nearby zoo in our area and I don't want to carry heavy DSLR camera body and lenses with me.
Guess what will I bring?
A smartphone with macro and telephoto lenses.
Macro for insects and flowers.
Telephoto for dangerous animals: cobra, anacondas, crocodiles, emu, and so on.
Wide angle for groufies and landscapes.

That's the point of a triple camera setup with different focal lengths.
16mm, 24mm, and 70mm. We all need these.

AnonD-930503, 11 Nov 2021I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's... moreYou just called everyone "stupid." Read your previous comments. I'm glad that comments can no longer be edited after 10 minutes and I can quote them for you and use your comments against you, mister.

You:
1) "Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users"
2) "So Android mobile phones don't have excellent telephoto! You can even check my photos they are more professional than telephoto taken! So what does it mean there are some STUPID GUYS DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE PHOTOS, THEY ARE VERY LAZY GO TO CLOSE TO TAKE SHOT. They don't know the basics of camera"

GO ahead, take a shot of an erupting volcano up close. Or an easier one, take a picture of an anaconda near the water.

3) "I didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say"
You just said that. Here's what you said:
"Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid users."
This is a stupid, generalized remark.

4) "For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids."
Such a stupid remark and a direct reflection of yourself. Macro lenses are used in cameras for a variety of reasons. Food photography, document scanning, product photography (most people who sell products online use this)

5) "National Geographic because they use Red camera"
It's true that they use Red, but their photographers in the field use ordinary cameras:
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/travel/article/travel-photographers-favorite-cameras

Red CAmera is a camera, not a lens. National Geographi use telephoto and all sorts of lenses.

It's obvious that you don't know what you are saying and deserve no more of my time.

  • AnonD-930503

EliseKlevr, 10 Nov 2021Okay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid? Try taking... moreAnd Guess who will buy Sony Xperia I, do you have an answer? Amateur photographers or professional photographers work for YouTube channel, and guess how many people will buy it. Do you need macro? Or will ordinary people need macro camera? Are you a tech guy? Do you need telephoto lens on mobile phone! Will professionals trust you if you say I will take video or photo on mobile phone! What you say it's really ridiculous! Main camera is fully enough, if you are not super special tech guy, who is trying to macro objects! And For Nile crocodiles nobody will carry Sony Xperia I or mobile telephoto! There's no sense what you are talking

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EliseKlevr, 10 Nov 2021Okay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid? Try taking... moreI didn't say stupid for National Geographic, it's you say
Read before answer, I didn't say about anything professional cameras, I said about mobile phones, and 99℅ of people don't need macro because we are not National Geographic guys, not everyone need telephoto lens it's for special people who work may be National Geographic! And you don't know anything about National Geographic because they use Red camera, do you have an idea how much does red camera cost? Do you know how many cameras do they use...read and learn before answer! For an ordinary person macro and telephoto useless and for stupids

zzzzz, 10 Nov 2021in my opinion better to go for samsung or iphone moto is q... moreWhy don't you read well before commenting ? It does have stereo speakers and the screen is faster than most other flagship phones. Motorola is more reliable than Samsung and iphone imo.

EliseKlevr, 10 Nov 2021Okay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid? Try taking... moreWell said sir!

AnonD-930503, 10 Nov 2021Absolutely, telephoto is for beginners or lazy stupid usersOkay, NatGeo photographers are lazy and stupid?
Try taking a closeup photo of a Nile crocodile (which by the way are very opportunistic and aggressive) with a "normal lens" and let's see how short your working distance would be. Try taking a photo of a Comodo dragon in its enclosure with a 24 to 30mm lens. Try bird photography without a telephoto lens. Try sports photography without a telephoto lens.
That's why we have telephoto lenses.

Wide angle lenses, on the other hand, are easier to stabilize. If your hands are shaky, then handling a wide angle lens is not that hard. Individuals with stable posture and camera handling are better able to reduce shaking and vibration while using a telephoto lens. Telephoto lenses, even the entry-level ones, are typically equipped with image stabilization mechanisms.

AnonD-930503, 10 Nov 2021You had better ask to professionals about it, it can be use... more"Telephoto blues behind the object, its only one way of photography, there are a lot things you can learn, if you use normal lense and go close to object you can create same magic without telephoto lens."

First of all, what is considered a "normal lens"? We have different lenses for different purposes.

Most YouTube tech reviewers use macro-telephoto lenses to shoot closeups of products.

Macro lenses are typically telephoto lenses. The Sony FE 90mm f/2.8 Macro, Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L macro, and more. Theses are great for taking closeups and portraits!

It is also useful for mobile imaging. Take the recent Xperia lineups.
The Xperia 1 III has a 70mm telephoto that is ideal for portraits and useful in taking photos of far away objects. It is relatively difficult to compose shots with a telephoto lens (but this depends on the skill of the user).

I own a 30mm macro and a 200mm telephoto lenses and I use both for taking photos of landscapes, portraits, the moon, and macro photography. It gives more blur (if you want to). Telephoto lenses don't distort subject's features. If you want distorted portraits, use wide angle lenses.

YUKI93, 10 Nov 2021Then why would all those professional photographers use a t... moreCorrect. Telephoto lenses are ideal for portraiture and macros (with a macro lens extension, which I do all the time). I also have mirrorless cameras and lenses and I prefer telephoto lenses. It is challenging to use, though.

  • zzzzz

in my opinion better to go for samsung or iphone
moto is quite good for mid range but for high end, it does not provide a good set of camera, display is not flagship, stereo speakers missing and why would someone pay such high price for stock android. there is google pixel for that reason.

  • SAN

Ready for pc Not working wirelessley.. working fine with usb cable
My error is (Your Wi-Fi network is blocking the connection. Please close your VPN, connect to another Wi-Fi network or plug in a USB cable and try again.) Any idea.?

  • Kinano13

I miss the leather feel of the old Motorola phones, no fingerprints no broken glass and definitely no shiny stuff for attention.
I hope they bring back the plastic back with leather feel.

Now for this phone.... i wish there was a headphone jack and Micro SD card slot.

I hope the camera system would compete against other brands.
I really love Motorola

  • AnonD-930503

If the price will be acceptable for this phone then this phone is excellent for photography! And also all those micro cameras are gimmic, so go for excellent image sensor and camera capabilities

  • AnonD-930503

Look image sensor of telephoto camera is smaller than main camera. If you have close to one inch image sensor and a good camera program then you can create all in one with single camera! What you can't do with nice 50 mpx Samsung or 12 mpx sony camera on iPhone! If you know the basics of camera, the single camera with optical image stabilization, close to on image sensor and other essential things for right camera you will shoot excellent photos!