Huawei Mate 20 goes through AnTuTu, its Kirin 980 aces the test
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- 09 Apr 2018
ChronoRad, 09 Apr 2018Yeah Huawei are seriously in need of better GPU, I don't kn... morebattery gonna be terrible same as on galaxy... dat's why huawei tried to use low gpus save power ..
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- 09 Apr 2018
Is this kind of power a threat to national security?? Because everything Huawei-related is a threat to US national security. xD
Seriously, I don't need that power, but it's just amazing how technology has advanced in the last seventy years, from the first computer to phones a million times more powerful and a thousand times smaller.
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- 09 Apr 2018
The Scientist Pigeon, 09 Apr 2018G72 maximum shader cores are 32. Mali-G72 MP24 and above a... moreYeah Huawei are seriously in need of better GPU, I don't know why they don't offer to buy Imagination Technologies which is very cheap right now and has a lot graphics patents which could help them develop a custom GPU core.
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- 09 Apr 2018
LilSweetLin, 09 Apr 2018Someone please explain to me the difference between AMOLED ... moreHear, hear, IPS screen and front FP scanner is best. ;)
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- 09 Apr 2018
AnonD-750905, 09 Apr 2018What happened to Mate 11 to 19 models??They jumped numbering because of huge improvements over previous gen.
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- 09 Apr 2018
LilSweetLin, 09 Apr 2018Someone please explain to me the difference between AMOLED ... moreI can only tell you this: Samasung AMOLED screens are simply the best in everything: color,brightness, power consumption etc. That's why all the flagships from all brands try to use Samsung panels and the ones who don't usually get complains about screen quality (see pixel)
When it comes to other manufacturers there is no clear answer. You would need to see some scientific comparisons, but as a rule of thumb just buy a phone with a Samsung panel and you won't be disappointed by screen quality or power consumption.
I'm not sure about Mate 11/20 but between Mate 10 and 10 pro the huge difference in battery life is in part thanks to the Samsung AMOLED display.
I would still buy a mate 10 over 10 pro for other reasons but that's a discussion for another time..
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- 09 Apr 2018
AnonD-732570, 09 Apr 2018This comment is pleasure to read, I would like to know, how... moreThanks for the reply,
Kirin is not bad at all by any measure, but considering that (2018-04):
Kirin 950 = 2 QHD, 3 FHD
Kirin 960 = 4 QHD, 3 FHD, 1 FHD+
Kirin 970 = 1 QHD, 0 FHD, 5 FHD+, 1 QHD+
In their Last 3 Generation = 7 QHD, 6 FHD, 6FHD+, 1 QHD+
Huawei forgot VR as it was not profitable for them, but as PC Games are nearer to come to smartphones, 2K displays would help users to have more details (although tiny, but visible) on their screen.
If FHD+ remains in their current bandwagon, calculations are different and even Exynos 9 (9810) is an excellent choice for a phone.
Adreno works in a unified shader core and as it reaches the maximum power (I tested in Gear.Club), multi-tasking became a forgotten word and total processing power tends to 105fps with frame drops after 3 minutes of playing the game, but it is visible if you record the screen and frame count it by premiere video tools.
Above 80Hz as screen is small and the occurrence of such frame rate is rare and only in high speed situations, down sizing it(from QHD to almost FHD), is not visible by fast paced actions.
Most problems for better graphics is On-Screen rendering which is a gear between apps (maximum objects available in scene to be rendered) and available Screen (2Million+ pixels to show vs. 4Million+). Off-Screen tasks will be helped by total raw power of CPU, GPU, the speed and amount of available RAM, so, the more graphically loaded UI the slower to convert a footage to another format.
Huawei and TSMC confirmed the 7nm process for upcoming Kirin, but the score is based on a 10 nm chipset on a development board not a mate prototype.
TSMC which sets Risk Production of 7nm for 2017 end, will start to operate mass production sooner, but I think no one can see a chipset with 7nm process tested earlier than June.
By the way, (as already confirmed) Kirin 980 must be set in new package and then re run the benchmark to see what will happen; Both process Centrally and Graphically will show the chipset either is good enough for in house handsets or is a top dog which challenge other upcoming SoCs.
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- 09 Apr 2018
Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018G72 is not necessarily below 630. The setup in the exynos 9... moreG72 maximum shader cores are 32.
Mali-G72 MP24 and above are a head and shoulder above Adreno 630, but for what cost?
CPU can control heat better than GPU.
Inside SoC there is no excuse for over heating problem.
Tough condition for CPU results in speed throttle and consequently some visible temporary lag, but for GPU, scenario is different. When GPU is under heavy rendering for on screen real time process, there is no way to throttle. There are Three possibility available:
1- Freeze the machine. and make bad experiment for users.
2- over heat the machine. bad reputation in whole industry for Brand, Sub Brand and designers.
3- set the GPU in cooler possibility.
Maximum Possibility of G72:
32 Shader Cores working at 850 MHz
Exynos 9 (9810)
18 Shader Cores working at 572 MHz
Cool and relatively fast On-Screen and Super fast Off-Screen
Video conversion is Off-Screen task which is basically powered by GPU and in this case, comparing: iPhone 8 Plus - Galaxy S9+ - iPhone X - Xperia XZ2
1st: E9810
2nd: A11 Bionic
3rd: SD845
HiSilicon is looking for something Like G73, but now 980 without (Maybe) Upcoming G73 is tested and now heat dissipation in 970 is at maximum possible point which could tolerate 12 shader cores at maximum frequency. HiSilicon wants to use 7nm process which is good but not applicable at least to June (process for 7nm must be tested before printing massive transistors on them).
24 Shader cores at max speed will result in SD810 fiasco, by current heat dissipation strategies.
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- 09 Apr 2018
AnonD-750905, 09 Apr 2018What happened to Mate 11 to 19 models??They got lost....😉
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AnonD-708551, 09 Apr 2018Hope they keep Mate 10's epic 5.9" un-curved/notch 16:9 IPS... moreSomeone please explain to me the difference between AMOLED and LCD for battery life?
I'm still not sure which type of screen is better. Every time I see reviews of IPS vs. AMOLED screens, AMOLED always has better endurance rating on this site. Look at the regular Mate 10, vs. Mate 10 Pro. Mate 10 is 16:9 flat, QHD LCD, Mate 10 Pro is 18:9 FHD+ AMOLED, but Mate 10 Pro has the higher battery endurance. LCD is more color accurate, AMOLED more garish. But AMOLED is also prone to burn in, image retention, banding, black crush, etc. LCD uses backlight, so even black pixels use power. Because of this, I'm scared to go with an LCD screen phone, even though I'm a light user.
If there's going to be a Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro, I'll more likely go with the one that has the 16:9 screen, 4000+ mAh battery, IP68, and front fingerprint sensor.
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- 09 Apr 2018
LG Superfan, 09 Apr 2018Pretty high score but isnt it too earlyNah, it's never too early. But it is kinda late since it has to compete with this year's flagships
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- 09 Apr 2018
Commendable achievement by huawei. But they need to bring better mid range chipsets. Current midrange offering- kirin 670 is nowhere close to SD 660/636.
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- the tech nerd
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- 09 Apr 2018
Hoping in 2-3 years future flagship models will come with 120hz display to use this kind of too good power, well kinda hoping laptops with 120hz display will have price down too(chances are it's not going to happen :( )
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- 09 Apr 2018
There are many months until October. Unless if Samsung decides to advance Note 9, as is rumored, until this summer and Huawei decides to do the same with Mate 20, if possible ...
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- 09 Apr 2018
AnonD-732570, 09 Apr 2018Could someone explain, he is whose side, complaing about Hu... moreHe is a Huawei fan. And his comment will be deleted for no reason (Because I tried last week.).
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- 09 Apr 2018
Well, CPU is great doesn't mean VGA will be great. Video games will be 60 fps lock due to the screen and the app of android is not so good so.... It's not Huawei's fault. I really appreciated this benchmark. But by the way. I WONT risk on Huawei again.
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- 09 Apr 2018
lol +100K scores compared to SD845 D:
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- 09 Apr 2018
Anonymous, 09 Apr 2018That's a nice score. (for an Android phone)
But it's still... moreLol.. I can accept the fact that Apples's CPU cores are faster that of Androids.. But the statement on Android compared to iOS is just hilarious!!
Think in the way.., iOS is sprint runner where race starts and end in single path on same surface where Android does marathon on testing conditions.. no comparison between them (dot).