HMD is hiring a team to expand presence of Nokia phones in the US
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- 27 Jul 2018
AnonD-241270, 27 Jul 2018thats not what i answer to, the guy are trying to undestand... moreChinese crap? Are we looking at the same Nokia? I don't think so...
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- Pragmatic
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- 27 Jul 2018
eddlang, 27 Jul 2018True, although one could argue that the nationality of a co... moreYou have a great point, especially in this day and age of multinational corporations. This were my issues
If the nationality of the owners bore the most weight, every corporation would be owned by Irish or Swiss or whatever tax haven is in vogue. If anything, lots of American companies are actually owned by foreign corporations, like General Electric, Budweiser, and Gerber (they are still American).
If the manufacturing aspects determined that, how do you resolve this for corporations that outsource most of their value chains to dozens of countries?
So many governments would draw the line at central management, and place of incorporation.
As for the HMD is Chinese narrative, whatever.
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- 27 Jul 2018
ZloiYuri, 27 Jul 2018Basic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation ... moreLet's recheack that. Shareholders. Majority finlandese. Patents, Nokia Finland. Developement: HMD Finland,. Design: HMD Finland. Hardware: CPU/Modem/chip/Graphics: Qualcomm USA,. Storage and RAM. I do not know, most probably Western Digital/kingstone/corsair are the manufacurers of this chips. Screen, most probably Samsung Corea. Assambly foxconn (taiwanese company located in China). You? Nobody.
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- 27 Jul 2018
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2018Weather you like or dislike it NOKIA WAS DEAD when they did... moreUseless patents? Kido. All mobile phomes and smartphones use Nokia's patents, even crapple.
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- 27 Jul 2018
[deleted post]No you are wrong. HMD is using the Nokia brand and HMD company is in Finland not in China sis. Unless you keep saying that HMD is Chinese, then someone made you a fool.
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- ZloiYuri
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- 27 Jul 2018
eddlang, 27 Jul 2018No, FIH (foxconn) only have a small share in HMD, about 7%.... moreOh really? Taiwan isn't China formally but in fact it's a China like Hong Kong. Most of Hon Hai profit gives continental China plants. And child work as well, btw
Oh, that "independent" funds with billions of dollars. Are you really think this finnish guy has so much money? All of these money are Chinese. I don't say that all that's bad, but first - it's not Nokia, but "Nokia". Second - formally it's 100% chinaphones but overpriced a lot. Third - it's just PR based on fake nostalgia of uneducated people who still think Nokia phones were the best. But why they failed in sales? Because they were bad. Now it's an average medium quality Chinese brand hiding behind european fake headquarter. Just great exaple of genius marketing. Not quality.
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- Anonymous
- U2T
- 27 Jul 2018
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2018Weather you like or dislike it NOKIA WAS DEAD when they did... moreRubbish
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- eddlang
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- 27 Jul 2018
ZloiYuri, 27 Jul 2018Basic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation ... moreNo, FIH (foxconn) only have a small share in HMD, about 7%. The majority owner is Smart Connect which is owned by a former Nokia executive.
Also, the last time I checked foxconn is a Taiwanese company, so even if they had majority share, it still would not make HMD Chinese.
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- Anonymous
- gmM
- 27 Jul 2018
Weather you like or dislike it NOKIA WAS DEAD when they didn't --> {android instead windows} or working on MeeGo harmattan! a name (Nokia) + some useless patents + Chinese hardware..!! That's all
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- ZloiYuri
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- 27 Jul 2018
Pragmatic, 27 Jul 2018Basic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation ... moreBasic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation is usually determined by any/all (depending on locale) of the following:
Shareholder (Hon Hai (Foxconn), China and Nokia, Finland, mostly by patenting and brand)
Developer (FIH mobile (Hon Hai), China)
Manufacturer (FIH moblle (Hon Hai), China)
So much people are so uneducated. If situation should be as you described - half of economics were based in offshores.
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- eddlang
- pku
- 27 Jul 2018
Pragmatic, 27 Jul 2018Basic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation ... moreTrue, although one could argue that the nationality of a company is changed if it's owned by a company from another country. It can be argued that Volvo is a Chinese company or at least a chinese-owned company BUT, even by that definition, there is zero evidence that HMD is owned by chinese; none at all. It seems that these people simply want to smear the Nokia branded phones.
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- AnonD-82756
- nE$
- 27 Jul 2018
I have a HMD built Nokia 150 I love it
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- Pragmatic
- sxn
- 27 Jul 2018
Basic business/legal tip: the nationality of a corporation is usually determined by any/all (depending on locale) of the following:
-the place of incorporation
-the place where it is initially registered
-the location of its headquarters
And nationality is independent of staff, shareholders, and factories. This is why Apple is still American even if Foxconn makes big parts of it. This is why Volvo is still Swedish even if god dang Geely makes the cars.
HMD is Finnish. No mystic placebo or nostalgia or even your feelings will change that.
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- Pragmatic
- sxn
- 27 Jul 2018
eddlang, 27 Jul 2018Do you have any proof? All available info around state that... moreThey won't have evidence that is substantial. Not that they care, though. It's similar to some religious extremists.
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- 27 Jul 2018
AnonD-241270, 27 Jul 2018dont trust in articles you found in wikipedia or elsewere.
... moreDo you have any proof? All available info around state that HMD is a finnish based company that was founded and is majority owned by the Luxembourg-based Smart Connect LP which belongs to Jean-Francois Baril, a former Nokia executive.
Now unless you can provide some evidence to the contrary, there is no indication that HMD is chinese.
These baseless claims are getting out of hand. I really don't know why some people keep repeating it. Do they get enjoyment out of it?
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- ZloiYuri
- Tmf
- 27 Jul 2018
Interesting. ZTE and Huawei is under ban in US because they are Chinese. Hon Hai Precision Technologies, (aka Foxconn) owner of this fake called Nokia moves much wisely, using Finnish puppet named HMD Global. But will it help? Will see further.
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- 27 Jul 2018
Anonymous, 27 Jul 2018Lol, you are ignorant. HMD Global are based in Finland... W... moreThe guy is probably correct.You heard of Flipkart the Indian e-commerce company recently purchased by walmart,well if I tell you that the company is based in Singapore and theoretically it's not an Indian company but a Singaporean company so would you call Flipkart singaporean.Of course not,everyone knows Flipkart is Indian.
Again I am not saying that hmd is Chinese just that I don't know alot about them except that they have some of Nokia's ex staff.
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- Anonymous
- P$b
- 27 Jul 2018
AnonD-241270, 27 Jul 2018dont trust in articles you found in wikipedia or elsewere.
... moreLol where u got the info?
Now tell me who is the founder of HMD Global oy is he chinese?
First make ur thoughts right
Have u watched the profile of juho sarvikas who is the CTO of company and other executives on linkedin?
Who are they? Answer: Previous nokia employees were recently past microsoft employees.
Where is the head quartes of HMD Global oy?
Answer: Its near orignal nokia which is in finland.
Now tell me HMD Global oy belongs to?
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- Anonymous
- U2T
- 27 Jul 2018
Nokia domination in the US means world domination again people will wake up n realise iPhones was a overhyped scam