Nokia 9 hands-on image leaks, shows five cameras on the back
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- Jeffry Ruiz
- PtF
- 07 Sep 2018
A person with tripphobia would not buy this hahaha
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- DLLM
- 5Mb
- 07 Sep 2018
make the old Nokia proud! Hopefully, current Nokia will be years ahead of the competition as it used to!
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- AdeeshaJayanath
- v{u
- 07 Sep 2018
Dominique, 07 Sep 2018That's what others were saying until Huawei released the P2... moreI came to that conclusion because of the edges of the LED flash. It looks fake or edited to me. Personally I want to see a great nokia phone like 808
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- Anonymous
- Q5i
- 07 Sep 2018
its like a spider phone !!!
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- Stondec100
- qLL
- 07 Sep 2018
Why not 10 cameras. Let's face it, Nokia is done! They should have avoided Microsoft and jumped on the Android bandwagon in 2009, instead they welcomed a Trojan horse, Steve Balmer, from Microsoft to run their company to the ground. Too late Nokia, too late.
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- Ericsson
- Ic8
- 07 Sep 2018
Bringing Ozo audio and five camera set up to the phone lineup. Nokia's qurky innovation at it's finest.
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- Ash
- fCR
- 07 Sep 2018
Don't want to sound like a troll but if I remember just after Nokia released the n73 with stereo speakers and a lot of other companies followed, some generic Chinese phone was released with 7 speakers. This here seems to be a similar case especially if you know how bad the hmd-nokia cameras are despite using the Zeiss branding.
If you want a good camera just buy any Samsung or any post 2017 Sony phone. Old Sony midrange cameras were not good but post 2017 have become great.
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- Marco M
- Mu3
- 07 Sep 2018
Allan, 07 Sep 20181. I'm not a native speaker, but I think what I wrote was c... more"With just little processing"
So the camera isn't good enough for you, YOU need to help it by 3rd party sofware and spend extra time to get a good enough result. The fact that you would spend time like that on photos from smartphone camera is bewildering. Just think what you could accomplish with a proper camera and get one of those instead? :-)
Using a 808 as a smartphone today, isn't exactly practical. So are you even still using it as your phone or do you carry it as a extra point and shoot? Even when it was brand new it didn't exactly have a good battery life, and by todays standards quite bad. Even worse with six years later of use and charge cycles, so how often have you replaced the battery?
Seems like quite the effort to keep it going, despite it's obvious draw backs. Not what I could call rational.
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- Allan
- mgs
- 07 Sep 2018
Marco M, 07 Sep 2018Calling someone clueless for disagreeing with you is a low ... more1. I'm not a native speaker, but I think what I wrote was clear, even though you had some issues in grasping its meaning. What I wrote meant that just that if I really were a fanboy, then by the same criteria you would look like a clueless hater. What you didn't get is that I believe I am not a fanboy and you're not a clueless hater either. Got it now?
2. What you say about dynamic range is false. With just little processing you can get well-exposed shots with at least as much, if not better overall detail than auto HDRs taken with current top camera phones.
3. I disagree with your main point. The 808 is still a great camera by contemporary phone standards. I even forgot mentioning its almost-lossless zooming capabilities which are still unmatched by phones with dual cams at the intermediate focal lengths.
If you still maintain that today the 808 is a subpar camera in most scenarios, free to believe so and enjoy the great pictures taken by new phones. To each her/his own. The very fact that you took so much offense in my perceived defense of the 808 means something else than you just Defending The Truth.
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- uSQ
- 07 Sep 2018
LLL, 07 Sep 2018We would probably get some samples soon, taken with a DSLR.If that's legit, blame Huawei. XD
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- Luxor
- RIF
- 07 Sep 2018
GTK DONALD, 07 Sep 2018what a shame , why smart phones doing this . why they cant ... moreSmartphone is not so smart afterall.
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- Marco M
- Mu3
- 07 Sep 2018
Allan, 07 Sep 2018You're welcome. By the same metric according to which I wou... moreCalling someone clueless for disagreeing with you is a low point, And if you want to go there fine, I'm not impressed.
I don't hate the 808, but funny how you draw that conclusion when feeling your "baby being attacked" by someone who doesn't praise it like you do. I'm just stating something that is very obvious, that the 808 is not flawless and in general it's not a particularly good camera by recent smartphone standard.
The only thing most smartphone manufacturers can still learn from the 808 is to reduce overshapening, which on some devices today is still horrible, particulalry when pixel peeping, but I generally don't, as I look at the complete picture on no higher resolution than about 8MP (4K) and while I can have up to 120x80cm prints in my home, they aren't inspected at nose distance.
Using the 808 in manual setting and in example compensating exposure won't fix it's flaws. Any camera can get better results on manual mode than auto, and especially on tripod etc, but it won't make it a better camera than it's limiting factors.
You can play around in manual settings on the 808 all you like, it won't get a better danymic range by reducing exposure to help blown out skies. You won't get a usable photo of people moving about in low light whilst on a tripod and long shutter. Non of the manuel setting will improve autofocus performance. At it's best, it's not good enough for me. It's that simple. It might be for you, but then we have different standards. Don't hate me for having different standards than you.
The 808 has it's areas. Landscape photography in simple lighting conditions and non-moving objects. Not exactly what I call versatile, and not my main area of photography.
Also areas all cameras can shine really, under some scenarios such as those two, particularly if used with stabilizer/gimbal/tripod and manual settings for long exposures. I even got some pretty good low-light photos from my old Fuji S1800 (or was it S1600?) way back when with very very very long exposure og static objects in dark environment which in no ways was it's area of expertise beeing a very compact zoom-camera.
If we go back to your first comment as a response to me you wrote
"808 image quality has been surpassed only in some niche scenarios"
The actual truth is quite the opposite, only in some niche scenarios is the pureview not yet surpassed. The P20 was the only one so far that could take away it's massive MP clarity, but ruined by over sharpening. But pretty much only for landscape under non-challenging lighting.
- GTK DONALD
- PV$
- 07 Sep 2018
what a shame , why smart phones doing this . why they cant use single camera for phone , its looks un professional .
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- Anonymous
- 3DR
- 07 Sep 2018
I wouldn't get this phone as the flash is not in the middle.
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- Anonymous
- IsY
- 07 Sep 2018
If it turns out to be like that then it will be a bit disappointing since it will have SD845 so late in the year.
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- Anonymous
- LHr
- 07 Sep 2018
Glass back; no, thank you.
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- AnonD-632062
- J7S
- 07 Sep 2018
Innovation is always welcome. If they don't repeat the bad decisions of the Nokia 8 Sirocco (no 3.5 mm jack and no SD card slot) they might be able to produce a super successful flagship phone.
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- MarcioR
- ix9
- 07 Sep 2018
That's one of the poorest photoshoped picture yet and people still believe it. Christ.
Look closer to the LED ring and look how it isn't perfectly round shaped
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- Allan
- mgs
- 07 Sep 2018
Marco M, 07 Sep 2018Just stating the obvios, fanboys have a certain way of seei... moreYou're welcome. By the same metric according to which I would be a fanboy, you surely would appear like a clueless hater.
Anyway, let me reword your comment for you.
The 808 camera is great provided that you learn how to use it. It takes about 0 minutes if someone setups it for you, about 3 minutes if someone with experience explains it to you, otherwise it might take some tens of minutes of tests in different conditions before you're able to use it at its best.
It looks like that's too much to ask from you when evaluating a phone camera quality.
So, if you don't know anything about it and just shoot in Auto for the first time, then it is just good, with lots of great stuff and few manageable shortcomings.