Samsung launches Exynos 9820 with 2 Gbps LTE modem and dedicated NPU

14 November 2018
The chipset is based on the 8nm LPP FiNFET process.

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AnonD-454049, 14 Nov 2018Clear leader in what? lol, their camera's low light perform... moreBest hardware by far.

High end chpset. Immense battery, best cameras in the biz, dual sim. They really have no downside apart from the whole spying from the Chinese gov. But that is true for western brands too (instead NSA spies you), so it all balances out.

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    kakouille, 14 Nov 2018 Inside the latest version of software on the P20, P20 Pro,... moreIt's called Performance Mode and I use it daily, Huawei made it available to everyone.

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      AnonD-454049, 14 Nov 2018Clear leader in what? lol, their camera's low light perform... moreSemi decent battery life!? That is laughable. Countless Battery Test all over YouTube of the Mate 20 Pro absolutely obliterating the Galaxy Note9 and S9+. Guess the Samsungs don't have good battery life either then, yeah?

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        Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018Huawei is the clear leader for the last 2 years. I doubt th... moreClear leader in what? lol, their camera's low light performance is comparable to other competing flagship devices, kirin SoCs are just slightly faster than mediatek ones, they use massive batteries to get semi decent battery life, very slow updates to their software and their phones slow down over time

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          Abhi Dahiya, 14 Nov 2018This year's Exynos scored better than Snapdragon in benchma... moreDid they fail because there's not enough driver support or was it due to touchwiz?

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            Shanti Dope, 14 Nov 20181 - It's not always about the number of cores to vary. 12 c... moreBeautiful comment, really like the cat comparison. Cats are assholes.

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              BosOtter, 14 Nov 2018Thank god I decided to wait for the S10, almost sat with a ... moreHuawei is the clear leader for the last 2 years. I doubt that S10 will change that.

              Samsung is curring corners, especially in battery capacity and camera quality. So it is probably wrong that you wait for S10. I expect Mate 20 to be better as Mate 10 was better than S9 in almost all the aspects.

              Samsung has serious internal pribelms and it shows to their phones (not top of the world anymore, only fanboys buy them. S4 - 80 mil sales, S9 - would barely break 30 mil)

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                No thanks
                Will never pay 1000 for a phone with Mali gpu

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                  Thesis86, 14 Nov 20188nm lpp even though Qualcomm and HiSilicon went with 7nm? W... moreWell the nm Are just marketing terms... I am quite sure that there Are not major differencies between those manufacturing technologies.

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                    Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018Those custom cores are just fancy a76Actually, did you know Samsung invented the Cortex A76?
                    Their custom Mongoose cores are very close in design, and was released months before ARM published their design. However, its okay because Samsung and SoftBank/ARM are in a close relationship agreement. It's why Samsung has been sticking with the Mali-Graphics solutions for years.

                    ARM's and Samsung's biggest rival is now Apple's Semiconductors and AMD's Ryzen.
                    I hope competition continues going strong, we'd hate to see stagnation.

                      Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018The only real question - can it catch up to the Apple CPUs?Nope! Not now but maybe in 2025......

                        8nm lpp even though Qualcomm and HiSilicon went with 7nm? We will see.

                        Hopefully, they beef up their midrange Exynos chips.

                          m20user, 14 Nov 2018Have you seen the Mate 20 Performance benchmarks? Have a lo... more Inside the latest version of software on the P20, P20 Pro, and Honor Play, Huawei was discovered gaming its scores by optimizing the system for certain benchmarking apps, most notably the popular 3DMark and GFXBench suites. According to AnandTech, “the newer devices come with a benchmark detection mechanism that enables a much higher power limit for the SoC with far more generous thermal headroom.”
                          That means the phones will not only score significantly higher than Huawei handsets without the boost, but also wildly inflate real-world performance. Basically, Huawei was benchmarking its chips’ theoretical results without taking things like battery life and overheating into account. It didn't behave like the phone would in real-world scenarios.

                            Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018Yeah 7nm that can’t runs 4K@60fps and 1080@240fps slow mo a... moreNonsense

                              Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018Sony did not include the 4K60 because the Steadyshot would ... moreThat's another point to make, but with regards to CPU concerns, 4K@60fps would still throttle the CPU down within a few minutes.
                              The CPU is being pressured way too much when doing it.

                                m20user, 14 Nov 2018According to AnandTech the Exyno9810 had a lot of compromis... moreWhen it doesn't throttle, it's a clear beast.
                                Samsung's poor heat management holds the raw power back, but I would say that they did a better job than Huawei.
                                Take a look at the Kirin 980 being benchmarked, in this case, by GSMArena on a Mate 20 Pro.
                                The fact that they've had to go as far as putting the phone in the freezer to cool the phone down only shows how inefficient the Kirin 980 is at sustained performance.
                                Exynos 9810 also throttles hard, but you at least get superb performance in return, and one that's truly a great rival to Apple's long-time reigning supreme lead in the mobile chipsets. Even if it heats up, it doesn't get as much as the Kirin 980, and they even had the better solution of a graphite cooling system with the Note 9.
                                Cortex A76 is just as power hungry as Mongoose M3 cores while being less powerful and smaller.
                                We aren't even forgetting the fact that the Kirin 980 is made on the newer and more efficient 7nm process vs 10nm on the Exynos 9810.

                                If it sounds as if I'm praising Samsung and hating Huawei with my statements, then sorry to disappoint you but I don't have such intentions. I'm just giving credits where they are due. Huawei is better in the mid range and low end segment, but Samsung is still ahead in the high end. The gap is definitely getting smaller and smaller each year, and the Mate 20 Pro is about the biggest rival of the Note 9.

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                                  Shanti Dope, 14 Nov 2018The Cortex A75 here is classified as the mid-level performa... moreHave you seen the Mate 20 Performance benchmarks? Have a look in the Pixel 3 XL review.

                                  Also, what chip does not heat up after running multiple consecutive benchmarks which is exactly what GSMArena pointed out which you do not mention.

                                    Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018What are you talking about? The 9820 will basically be at p... moreIn terms of pure CPU power, benchmark or not, the A12 Bionic is still unmatched at this point. Only this Exynos 9820 comes very close, which is a massive improvement, as opposed to almost half as powerful like in the past.
                                    Let's forget about the A12X Bionic for a moment, because we all know that it's out of this world.

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                                      Anonymous, 14 Nov 2018Yeah 7nm that can’t runs 4K@60fps and 1080@240fps slow mo a... moreSince when do we judge a SoC by video and single core performance when Android is multi core based???

                                      Fact of the matter is that the Exynos 9810 had poor kernel optimization from day 1, now we have what seems to be the same situation here with the 9820, along with a inferior node process.

                                        zamroni1, 14 Nov 2018why it is not A76, SamsungThe Cortex A75 here is classified as the mid-level performance cores. It's aim is to avoid the heating concerns the Cortex A76 brought, as proven on the Mate 20's benchmark tests by GSMArena.
                                        The custom core (probably Mongoose M4) is the main powerhouse, which would be better than the A76.
                                        Single core of Cortex A76 is around 3500 (same ballpark as the Apple A10 Fusion), and if rumors are true, this Mongoose M4 cores would be around 4400 (slightly ahead of A11 Bionic, and 400 points lower than the A12 Bionic).

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