Renders of Sony Xperia XZ4 cases support rumor of extra tall body

29 November 2018
Sony only recently adopted the 18:9 aspect ratio, but its early 2019 flagship may tower above the competition.

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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018If you don't believe Sony mobile is dying, here, read this:... moreLoss of profit doesn't mean dying.
Samsung Mobile is also loosing some profits, even before they became quite successful in the S6 to S8 era, does that mean they're also dying??

Sony can easily gain back those lost profit if they somehow change their strategy in the market, which they seem to be considering to do by next year with all of the changes in their plans.

    Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018I was referring to Sony Mobile. Not Sony Playstation, Sony ... moreWhen we talk about dying, it is defined as something that no longer tries to do something.
    Well,
    -the XZ3 introduces the first dual-curved OLED smartphone for a Xperia device
    -the XZ2 Premium introduces the first dual rear cameras for Xperia smartphones
    -the XZ2 introduces the first 18:9 screen for Xperia devices
    -the IMX586 sensor introduces a Quad Bayer layout for better exposure and light sensitivity

    It would practically be dead if Sony no longer makes smartphones, and in the state of dying if they're no longer planning to do anything new and try to compete with the others. They are.

      Anonymous, 01 Dec 2018https://nl.letsgodigital.org/smartphones/sony-transparante-... moreAt last, a Sony related article worth reading.
      Thanks for the link.

      This would be true genuine innovation in this stale boring overcrowded mobile world.
      But, knowing Sonys patent to reality track record...dont have much hopes of this coming to life.

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        • Anonymous
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        • 01 Dec 2018

        If you don't believe Sony mobile is dying, here, read this:
        (Sony mobile unit loses $97 million in first quarter 2018)
        https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www.androidheadlines.com/2018/07/sonys-android-smartphone-unit-loses-97m-in-fiscal-q1-2018.html/amp
        And this: (Sony mobile shrinking out of existence)
        https://www.google.com.ph/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/7/31/17633792/sony-mobile-xperia-smartphone-sales-earnings-report

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          • Anonymous
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          • 01 Dec 2018

          Shanti Dope, 01 Dec 2018How long are you going to say that Sony is a dying brand? ... moreI was referring to Sony Mobile. Not Sony Playstation, Sony Alpha cameras and Sony Pictures which are very much alive. Sony Mobile is dying. Actually, it's practically dead with less than 1% mobile market share in 2018.The only reason it remains alive and continues to out new smartphone models is because other Sony businesses subsidize its losses.

            Anonymous, 30 Nov 2018Sorry you're wrong. My comments are as valid in 2018 as it ... moreHow long are you going to say that Sony is a dying brand?
            Until you finally realize that you were always wrong this whole time??
            You said in 2015 that Sony is dying. You said it again in 2016, and consecutively again in 2017. Seriously, I've been waiting for your statement to be realistic already!!
            It's not like it's taking ages before something dies.....

            Let's just say you can't handle the fact that Sony is very well alive and can still kick some a$$ in the competition.
            The fact that Samsung is using Sony's technology in their smartphone camera is an indication of how powerful and relevant this company remains.

              pressefr, 01 Dec 2018Nah, it has to be the XZ3 Ultra, 6.5 inches gives the hint,... moreInteresting info, although Sony always unveil their flagships at MWC all at the same time, so they really won't announce the XZ3 Compact earlier than its brothers or something.
              It could possibly be the XA3 Ultra instead, which would be ready for unveiling at CES 2019.

                Nah, it has to be the XZ3 Ultra, 6.5 inches gives the hint, and there is no rear fingerprint sensor. This is just my guess because the finalization of the XZ4 design is marked to be in December 2018, and product to be announced at MWC 2019 in February 2019. This has to be a product that is ready to be announced for CES 2019 in January. Which is most likely the XZ3 Compact and Ultra.

                  AJ_74, 30 Nov 2018Sony Mobile Exec. 1: "I don't get it. We made the phone tal... moreNo need for a hole because Sony would be working to make it under-display instead.

                    Yann, 30 Nov 2018You're hypocrite, you know? I'm using mobile phones since ... moreSo with that much experience, you somehow still haven't figured out how to exactly make better photos with Xperia phones? I mean, you're using them for a very long time now, if I'm correct, so you should somehow be familiar on how to manage it to make it perform even better.
                    I guess you've never done that anyway, and I don't think you have seen their progress in years, rather you only try to seek for even the tiniest of faults that they have.

                    I never said the switch to a new design language has something to do with the removal of the jack. It was simply the trend for the flagships that Sony somehow felt the need to join in, and again, whether it's a good thing or not depends on the people, but they just listened to what the users are saying.

                    I didn't even try to compare that 2002 DSLR to the XZ2 Premium, it was just purely an assumption or thought. Somehow you focused on that minor thing when I didn't even try to give a focus on it. I guess you can't argue with that statement since it's true?

                    "Yea, great noise and poor dynamic range on my XZP is natural?"
                    ***Question is, is it really poor? There are phones with better dynamic range, but does that necessarily mean that the inferior ones are bad? XZ Premium only takes a single photo, and the worse dynamic range is purely the dynamic range of the main sensor. Others perform multi-frame image stacking to widen the DR, but that's just perceived exposure and NOT natural since software tweak was performed to achieve such greatness.

                    "You're so blinded in your writings.... Definitely you work for SONY or your relative. IDC."
                    ***If talking truths could make me rich, I could've bought Samsung, Apple, and Huawei companies already by now.
                    I would LOVE to work for Sony, only if I'm already that old enough to have a job. Idk any of my relative who's working to Sony, but I'd love to have one.
                    And how exactly does my writings make me blinded? You simply cannot reply properly but your emotions are so messed up that you always feel the need to reply in order to avoid being heavily debunked by the realistic statements that I've pretty much been telling you over and over again.

                    Idc about your XZ Premium being made of cheap materials. I tried it too myself multiple times, and it was a very good phone in every single way.
                    If you really take care of your devices, you'd rather invest some cash for protection to them.

                    "Even my old but gold NOKIA 808 can make better pictures than this crap. With just a fraction of the CPU power of XZP."
                    ***Wow! Congrats, give this guy a cookie!
                    Every phone pretty much loses to the 808 based on the hardware perspective, so thank you Captain Obvious for such a wonderful knowledge you have taught us today!
                    I never knew that a 1/1.12" sensor could outperform a 1/2.3" sensor! Amazing!

                    Stupid

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                      • Anonymous
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                      Not A SONY Fan, 30 Nov 2018When are we going to get the 128 GB storage option in a 4K ... moreThey do not charge more for dual sim ...
                      Different price is due to be sold in different markets.

                      Dual sim is for Asia only now.

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                        • Anonymous
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                        • 30 Nov 2018

                        AJ_74, 30 Nov 2018Sony Mobile Exec. 1: "I don't get it. We made the phone tal... moreHole is even more ridiculous than notch.
                        Looks like a dead body shot in the head

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                          • 30 Nov 2018

                          Sony Mobile Exec. 1: "I don't get it. We made the phone taller and narrower. Why isn't it selling?"

                          Sony Mobile Exec. 2: "We obviously didn't make it tall and narrow enough. We must get taller. We must go narrower. We'll make the tallest, narrowest smartphone ever created. It will be the first of its kind to market. With that kind of tallness... the sheer narrowness of it... it can't possibly not sell in the tens of millions."

                          Sony Mobile Exec. 1: "We should put a camera hole right in the center of the screen."

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                            • Anonymous
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                            • 30 Nov 2018

                            This one is 6 + 128, maybe east Asia earn 8Gb

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                              • Anonymous
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                              • 30 Nov 2018

                              Not A SONY Fan, 30 Nov 2018When are we going to get the 128 GB storage option in a 4K ... moreOEMs sadly use hybrid slot because they want to..
                              Not because they cant fit 3 slots..

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                                • 30 Nov 2018

                                Smartphone may have a 3.5 mm headphone jack

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                                  • 30 Nov 2018

                                  When are we going to get the 128 GB storage option in a 4K HDR phone from SONY in 2018, or ever?

                                  I specifiy 4K because this uses a lot of storage space and SONY R&D does not seem to have the no how to allow for the use of two sims and an SD card at the same time; they can't solve this issue, because they want to put lower capacity batteries in their phones.

                                  They sell one version of their phone as SINGLE SIM, then another version at a higher price of the SAME phone as DUAL SIM, so why can't we get the option of 128 GB in the DUAL SIM version of a SONY $999.00 Flagship phone?

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                                    • 30 Nov 2018

                                    Anonymous, 30 Nov 2018Button on the right side are VOLUME, FINGERPRINT SCANNER, ... moreDo they really did it????? Separate FPS from power button?!? This is hilarious!

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                                      • 30 Nov 2018

                                      Shanti Dope, 30 Nov 2018Oh, so you're also just a regular smartphone user like me??... moreYou're hypocrite, you know?
                                      I'm using mobile phones since year 1999. My first gsm phone was Siemens. And since then I used to buy latest and greatest. So, I'm watching mobile industry from "quite a while".
                                      Changing OmniBalance Design doesn't have anything in common with headphone jack. It was stupid management decision to "follow the trend".
                                      I own and still using one of the latest OmniBalance design phone - XZ Premium. XZ1 was the last, but almost identical, just smaller.
                                      Comparing 2002 DSLR with XZ2 Premium is to compare carrots with plums. It is idiotic, at least at technology timing point of view.
                                      "Sony prefers not to tweak many things on the image in order to keep it natural" - Yea, great noise and poor dynamic range on my XZP is natural? And I'm not speaking for perfect light conditions. In such conditions every cheap smartphone in last year can take nice photo.
                                      You're so blinded in your writings.... Definitely you work for SONY or your relative. IDC.
                                      Keep admire at sinking company.
                                      My XZP have good design, but... Very very bad transitions between top and bottom metal parts and glass on the front and back. The sides are plastic. The metal is soft and very very easy to scratch. I bought it because of the look. Still using it, but will be my first and last SONY phone. Even my old but gold NOKIA 808 can make better pictures than this crap. With just a fraction of the CPU power of XZP.