Sony Xperia XZ4 with Snapdragon 855 is now on Geekbench too

03 January 2019
Beats the Kirin 980 and A12 Bionic in multi-core performance.

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LOL, 04 Jan 2019Yeah, but iPhones are selling fairly well, whereas Sony Mob... moreSony has a great track with updates and probably the fastest while covering the most models as an Android OEM. Started the Android Beta program that everyone is following now.

    Walter C. Dornez, 04 Jan 2019Well better coordination, communication, and more flexibility. exactly. having several cores allow better coordination in managing a certain task. the cores can "talk" between themself. and with the right coding, split evenly the code. and reduce load from one core to many. THAT'S the point of multi-core. the multi-core score is just representing how "efficient" it is to work in multi-core mode comparing to single core. with higher score being higher efficiency.

      Kiyasuriin, 04 Jan 2019Let's ask it in a different way: what are the advantages of... moreWell better coordination, communication, and more flexibility.

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        Slayer, 04 Jan 2019And the iFruit is worth £1,500...? By the way the XZ3... moreYeah, but iPhones are selling fairly well, whereas Sony Mobile keeps losing money every year. A farce considering how well the other businesses of Sony is doing: cameras, Playstation, music etc.

        Good thing about iPhones is that the OS updates arrive fast and older phones are supported for a long time. For Android, sometimes you're lucky to even get it at all. For example, some Android 'O' phones of 2017 are probably never going to get Android 'Q' of 2019.

        If you desire an Android phone that's perfectly okay, just know that there are better options than an Xperia.

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          Slayer, 04 Jan 2019And the iFruit is worth £1,500...? By the way the XZ3... moreNow brand new cost a lot more than that.
          And Ifruit along with Samsung arent worth the money they asking for.
          In past brands had its name in present chinese phones dominates everywhere rightfully.
          In other words in past chinese phones were crap compared to a well known Sony Samsung or Apple phones worth their price.
          In present chinese phones have equal or even better quality than Ifruit Samsung or Sony phones and still cost low.

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            AnonD-731363, 04 Jan 2019Maybe oit cant but this feature is not worth 600 m ore buck... moreAnd the iFruit is worth £1,500...? By the way the XZ3 is £699! Do the math!

              Walter C. Dornez, 04 Jan 2019I see. But what are the advantages of multi core over single?Let's ask it in a different way: what are the advantages of doing missions in a group comparing to doing missions Alone?
              Answer it. And you found your answer

                are_you_serious, 04 Jan 2019You are genuinely insane. Do you have any semblance of know... moreLOL, see my comment below, you can set the affinity to a thread. And I don't need to be educated, I developed programs in assembler (even in DOS debug) since I was a child LOL. And you shot your foot again by saying you cannot compare ARM with Windows so why use GB to compare both? It can be used across different platforms but cross-platform comparison is nonesense. You compare similar processors with the same OS period.

                If only you can switch iOS to run on Android device or Windows or vice-versa then you can certainly use GB for comparison. But pretty sure, Apple SoC will be lethargic in Windows or Android OS due their sophisticated architecture.

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                  AnonD-731363, 04 Jan 2019Already killed by Lenovo Z5 pro GT for much lower price and... moreLenovo flagship lacks :

                  - 10 bit HDR screen with BT2020 support and 120Hz/144Hz ( other brands offer only HDR10)
                  - 4K HDR HLG recording ( impossible without dram inside sensor)
                  - Ingress Protection
                  - Fast updates
                  - Android 9
                  - Laser AF , burst with AF ( only Sony has)
                  - best night video skills
                  - Bravia engine technology
                  - Anti distortion shutter
                  - 5 axis gyro EIS
                  - AR effects
                  - Qnovo tech (protects against quick charge damages)
                  - Smart battery tech

                  Of course Lenovo device would be cheaper. Not even counting the fact it is developed and built in China which makes it even cheaper.



                    lol, 04 Jan 2019It's a benchmark dude, its purpose is to compare two device... more"Do you even operating systems 101? Geekbench does not control the process affinity, no software does, it's all up to the scheduler."

                    Well with proper coding it can, see this

                    https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2510593/how-can-i-set-processor-affinity-in-net

                    https://bytefreaks.net/programming-2/c/cc-set-affinity-to-process-thread-example-code

                    You wanna make it cross-platform, then take advantage of what the platform can offer you and not limit with some worthless unoptimized tasks.

                      Furiounx, 04 Jan 2019Well via hardware: yes. But you'd have to hope the software... moreAnd as it stands, those make it a coin toss every single time you download it

                        Mike, 03 Jan 2019Multiple cores in ARM design are there for power efficiency... moreI see. So why does Qualcomm still stick to multi core?

                          Kiyasuriin, 03 Jan 2019Of course. Single core. also known as "Single thread" sco... moreI see. But what are the advantages of multi core over single?

                            Cod3rror, 03 Jan 2019I'm a bit dusty on this topic but as I recall single core i... moreAh, so because iOS mostly runs on single thread, that's why iOS has been popular?

                              AnonD-558092, 04 Jan 2019Maybe the K980 with the stock A76 can't sustain this perfor... morejust see the clock, SDM 855 has 1x2,84ghz and 3x2,42ghz HP core. Kirin 980 has 2x2,6ghz and 1,92Ghz HP core. Clearly SD855 wins here! plus...... The Snapdragon has good track record with multicore performance

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                                J o m s, 04 Jan 2019TLTR Dude, that's the main reason GB is worthless. Becau... moreYou are genuinely insane. Do you have any semblance of knowledge of how all of this even works? I don't even know where to begin - that's how much the nonsense you spew out baffles me.

                                You ask the stupid question of why ARM chips don't replace desktop chips. Please educate yourself on what the R in ARM stands. RISC is what it is, Reduced Instruction Set. Reduced - do you register the meaning of this word? It's meant to be efficient. Now what does x86 refer to? Literally what it's name is - x is a wildcard. Ever heard of i386, i486? My guess is not. ARM cannot be used on desktops because it is capable of parsing the particular instruction set that is native to x86. Read up on ARM on Windows and understand why this issue is such a headache.

                                Geekbench tests for specific tasks that can be done on both ARM and x86, it's that simple. Even entertaining your issue with the OS: a benchmark tests the entire system which is a combination of hardware and software. You cannot say a benchmark is bad because the OS is underperforming. And for the last time, userland app cannot govern the process affinity of an OS! - a 5 year old child would understand a concept this simple.

                                You don't have the slightest hint how computers work. In your experiment you even failed to account for the fact that you're using a superscalar processor so it's not just a simple single thread * number of cores. Even highly parallel task like tile based rendering where Ryzen does really well does not scale linearly - how many instructions are fetched in a cycle depends on a multitude of factors. You can have Windows showing you a 50% CPU usage but have the CPU working at 100% because the pipeline is fully saturated with limited number of instructions.

                                That's why these benchmarks exist - to see how a system performs really after the OS, thermal envelope and a plethora of other aspects are taken into account. People who developed Geekbench and other benchmark suites are very knowledgeable in this topic, much more than I am, but you're simply insulting their work because of your inability to comprehend the topic at hand.

                                Your entire argument is: "A12 small so it bad". You're literally arguing that it's not that fast because you don't FEEL LIKE it can be that fast. Actual analysis and numbers prove otherwise. Your argument is equivalent to nothing, a person with common sense would just concede.

                                EDUCATE YOURSELF

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                                  Shanti Dope, 04 Jan 2019Like, it can also capture true 960fps super slow motion vid... moreMaybe oit cant but this feature is not worth 600 m ore bucks Sony is asking for its phone if we cosider they will charge 999 for their phone.

                                    AnonD-731363, 04 Jan 2019Already killed by Lenovo Z5 pro GT for much lower price and... moreLike, it can also capture true 960fps super slow motion videos in 1080p?

                                      lol, 04 Jan 2019It's a benchmark dude, its purpose is to compare two device... moreTLTR

                                      Dude, that's the main reason GB is worthless. Because the way it was compiled differently on different OS hence you cannot compare them across different platforms. Look at the side by side comparions out there, A12 is not twice as fast as SD845. GB just extrapolated the scores to make the A12 appear superior than competition. Would you believe Apple's site takes a while to load on iPhone but not on Android phone? Clue? Website is a collection of many tasks and you measure the time it takes to load the whole site, not the cookie or a single DOM. Get it? GB is measuring camera what? My desktop has no camera so what the heck is this? Measuring PDF when all it shows is just a progress bar and percentage. Here is a tip for you, try PCMark, it is the most comprehensive and realworld benchmark tool.


                                      I don't need CS class because I learned it 20 years ago. Take a commom sense class, if A12X is close to fastest desktop then might as well use it as MBP processor. Oops cannot be, because it has great incompatibility and will choke with real productivity apps.

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                                        Already killed by Lenovo Z5 pro GT for much lower price and a lot better specs.

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