Sony video teases phones with 3D ToF cameras

01 February 2019
Sony acquired the maker of DepthSense in 2015. A possibly related rumor claims next Xperia flagship will use α1 branding and offer lightning fast AF.

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Anonymous, 02 Feb 2019Sensors started to be produced recently ... Sony Mobile i... moreYes sure REALLY?.
Its a Sony corp they can do.
OMG i cant believe what you just said.

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    • 02 Feb 2019

    Incomplete post before:

    One of the issues with Sony mobiles, is they don't seem to take advantage of their camera technology enough. The sensor and camera features make the competition look good, even if they are using Sony sensors.

    Companies practice product feature stratification. So, don't matter if the feature or extra sensor, is a minor extra cost (even if less than a cent) if it has a perceived extra value to you which they don't need to compete, they charge you extra, magnitudes extra in some cases. However, if you sell competing products, like low end cameras and phones, who wins the extra features? Ironically, a company that doesn't sell cameras, are more a liberty to include the camera features in their phones, if they know how. But even these companies have to license compression codecs from standards bodies under license conditions, and other technology and sensors from the competition or profiteers who want to stratify their licenses uses, to gain more money from that she with a license to freely use the technology or component. It is a hidden part of the consumer electronics world that controls you, to ensure you pay vastly more money in total, and for JUNK, under legal agreements to keep them out of court and prosecution. So, that's a generalisation about practices likely/proven out there is massive collusion to beat local laws and defraud customers. Please note, I'm talking about some behaviour in the industry performed in some incidents and portion of companies, not accusing any specific company of anything.

    So, Sony is at liberty to release phones with the best sensors they can, professional level visually lossless video codecs, 12 bit+ hdr 4:2:2 and Bayer color codec, 48/50/60 fps in the highest resolution possible (4k+) and 3D camera arrays for best picture adjustments, with 20+stop dynamic range, rec2020 color with prosumer/professional controls in software and discrete buttons, switches and dials, like manual everything, and push to auto adjust, and simply blow the competition out of the water and make profit while waiting for them to cine back down again. That is competition. Before anybody doubts it, this stuff above, is current technology, actual able for a while, but s simply best/better practice.
    If you want to make footage that will look good for the rest of your life, on some wall sized screen that's going make your 4k 100mb/s h264 footage look bad, and stick out it's faults, or a vr eye set, you need this as a consumer, not just auto AI everything. That is why professionals use most of the above as a minimum, to carefully deliver you a good image.

      Seems too small to be the p10. Much like the xz4 compact

        are those huawei p10 i'm seeing in the video???

          Shanti Dope, 02 Feb 2019Like it could perfectly simulate a fictional gun war using ... moreProbably not yet, but knowing how good Sony is with updates, I wouldn't be surprised if that becomes a thing later on. Sony phones age quite well

            Mike, 01 Feb 2019Problem with Sony is they don't know what OIS is.Yes they don't know it, that's why they just put it on the XA Ultra's front camera instead

              Anonymous, 02 Feb 2019Depth info ...Like it could perfectly simulate a fictional gun war using the ToF camera in real time?

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                Mike, 01 Feb 2019Problem with Sony is they don't know what OIS is.Does that stop their phones from taking great pictures? Absolutely not.

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                  • 02 Feb 2019

                  Shanti Dope, 02 Feb 2019So the ToF sensor on the Oppo R17 Pro isn't there to help i... moreDepth info ...

                    Truth, 01 Feb 2019I own Xperia X for more than 1.5 years and I love the desig... moreMe too, and almost 1.5 year too, and the size is perfect, i miss the day when this size used to be the middle size between the compact and the premium, look at the xz3 now and compare its size, unfortunately it seems like only pixel managed to make a good use of these new aspect ratios trend by leaving the mobile size the same and increasing screen size and decrease bezels size as they did with the pixel 3.

                      So the ToF sensor on the Oppo R17 Pro isn't there to help in low light after all

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                        • 02 Feb 2019

                        According to mobile world dictionary gimmick means something called useless because Samsung , Apple nor crappy chinese cheap brands ( bbk sisters and xiaomi) do not use. But when they adopt, feature is called useful by bias youtubers and costumers of these brands ...

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                          • 02 Feb 2019

                          AnonD-731363, 01 Feb 2019Typical Sony since 2015 they were unable to add this tech t... moreSensors started to be produced recently ...
                          Sony Mobile is not in charge of other Sony divisions.

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                            • 01 Feb 2019

                            PiT, 01 Feb 2019Stupid useless features better make a real hologram project... moreMaybe you can capture video for 3d hologram projector or vr glasses with 3d tof cameras.

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                              Problem with Sony is they don't know what OIS is.

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                                Anonymous, 01 Feb 2019A1 is Alpha 1. Like their mirrorless line up is called... moreI know. I have an a6300.

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                                  Anonymous, 01 Feb 2019Dear GSMArena team ...... The device being called xz4 a... moreI own Xperia X for more than 1.5 years and I love the design so much.
                                  From my point of view the pro's are:
                                  - perfect size
                                  - ideal shape
                                  - display is square but edges are round
                                  - camera is at the same level with the back and the phone stands perfect on the edges
                                  - omnibalance design
                                  - side fingerprint
                                  - dozens of updates from Andriod 6 to 7, 7.1 and 8 and alot of patches
                                  cons:
                                  - non so far, i would like smaller bezels but that is not such a big issue for me.

                                  While I do not plan to chance my phone anytime soon, since I am so happy with it, my next phone for sure will be a Sony.

                                  Go Sony! Best brand ever!

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                                    • 01 Feb 2019

                                    Typical Sony since 2015 they were unable to add this tech to their phones to maximize the sales.
                                    Now when they barelly selling they wake up ah we fiorgot we can use this.
                                    OMG.

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                                      • 01 Feb 2019

                                      Dear GSMArena team ......

                                      The device being called xz4 actually might be the xa3 ultra.
                                      Months ago there was gossip that flagship would remind the design of Xperia X, but small bezels.

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                                        • 01 Feb 2019

                                        AnonD-558092, 01 Feb 2019Should have called it Sony IMX a1, because Xperia a1 sounds... moreA1 is Alpha 1.

                                        Like their mirrorless line up is called Alpha series, while pocket cams are cubershot