Leak suggests Xperia 1 camera modules are manufactured by Zeiss

07 May 2019
The Sony Xperia 1 is rumored to launch some time in June.

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  • 18 Mar 2020

Shui8, 18 Mar 2020Samsung use Sony Exmor since Galaxy S6. The first introduce... moreI never denied that Samsung uses Sony sensor. They do.
But they also do use their own sensor.
Care to answer why other brand can't get the same sensor as soon as Samsung gets it from Sony and also which phone used DUAL pixel AF after Samsung also mention how long after ?
I have no proof on this. But I think these sensors are Samsung designed.
And most galaxy s10 series(probably all) used ISOCELL main sensor. Here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/help/galaxy-s10-sony-sensors-t3916758/page2 .
It was also mentioned in a article on notebookcheck. But can't remember in which article.

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    • 18 Mar 2020

    AnonD-754814, 18 Mar 2020Actually dual pixel tech was introduced with an ISOCELL sen... moreSamsung use Sony Exmor since Galaxy S6. The first introduced Dual Pixel on a phone, the S7 using Sony IMX260. - https://m.gsmarena.com/samsungs_dual_pixel_tech_is_like_canons_dual_pixel_auto_focus-news-16805.php

    Like I said earlier, check the Exmor Wiki for reference - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor

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      • 18 Mar 2020

      Shui8, 14 Mar 2020As far as i know, iphone using Sony Exmor sensor. Even Sams... moreActually dual pixel tech was introduced with an ISOCELL sensor first.
      Sony may have taken the design from Samsung.
      Because Samsung was the only brand to use DPAF in 2016 with S7 and no other brand got their hands on that sensor in 2016.
      Some news suggest that S10 went with all ISOCELL main sensor for both SD and exynos version.

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        • 14 Mar 2020

        AnonD-754814, 12 Mar 2020Is the iPhone also using ISOCELL telephoto sensor ? I don... moreAs far as i know, iphone using Sony Exmor sensor. Even Samsung Galaxy S6 to S10 using Sony sensor (only Sony has Dual-Pixel tech on a smartphone camera sensor). Huawei always use Sony sensor on all its focal length.

        You can check the list by google 'Exmor Wikipedia'.

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          • 12 Mar 2020

          Shui8, 12 Mar 2020You are not wrong. Its not rumors. Besides the main cam IMX... moreIs the iPhone also using ISOCELL telephoto sensor ?
          I don't understand why these reviewers don't mention the sensor model.
          If they don't give us the detail how is it a good review ?

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            • Shui8
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            • 12 Mar 2020

            AnonD-754814, 12 Mar 2020Isn't the Front facing sensor and ISOCELL sensor ? And ru... moreYou are not wrong. Its not rumors. Besides the main cam IMX400, the rest of Xperia 1 camera sensor using Isocell.

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              • AnonD-754814
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              • 12 Mar 2020

              Shui8, 08 May 2019Its module setup along with the lens maybe by Zeiss, but th... moreIsn't the Front facing sensor and ISOCELL sensor ?
              And rumors also suggest ultra-wide and telephoto sensor are also ISOCELL sensor.

                Dead on arrival, while they announicng it, other companies just delivers latest tech with better price tag. Who would care about 4k on tiny screen, which does not make any difference for your eye? I bet cameras will be avarage too as usual from Sony :)

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                  • 13 May 2019

                  A smart Shooter, 08 May 2019It's mis-algorithm when capture two people which doesn't st... moremuch better than your satay photo. aahaahaah

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                    • 11 May 2019

                    Anonymous, 08 May 2019I have Xperia flagship. Because everything is better compa... moreAll good. Just gonna say since you mentioned XZ1, that's the closest runner up (specifically XZ1 and XZ1 Compact) in my list when I was hunting for a new phone (for 2019 onwards). I ended up with the Pocophone F1, after many and long considerations. Mainly thanks to the faster SoC and bigger screen and its price. If not for their outdated micro-USB ports and suspiciously huge marketing budget of this mainly midrange devices, several Vivo and Oppo devices would also competes very fiercely on my list... I like their style of water drop notch.

                    I fell in love with how Sony kept generous amount of bezels on their phones. XZ1 Compact has that one-handed manageable size, cool 720p, chunky square corners equals to secure grip on that matte plastic frame (that may seem thick to some, but I wouldn't mind even more thickness by a couple millimeters in exchange for more battery capacity), non-existent antenna lines. Side-mounted fps.
                    XZ1 has a bigger screen that makes more sense for multimedia consumption than the Compact, but it's bigger sibling doesn't have much advantage compares to Compact imo.

                    one part from Gsma review worries me : "For one, Sony is still sticking with a hybrid design for its dual SIM variants. A dedicated microSD slot would be greatly appreciated. And we don't think Sony's two-part cradle is good with a launcher that restarts every time you pull out the SIM - so everytime you use the microSD card, the XZ1 restarts."
                    And the navigation buttons would be black when using most apps, except video player and homescreen. Since it's on the screen, it better be transparent or hides away when not needed imo.
                    And if I remember correctly, on Sony devices the SD card is reserved for multimedia only, no apps data, which is a bummer.
                    Lastly, the XZ1 although it has metal housing made of a single metal sheet, those quirky non-symmetrical antenna lines ticks my OCD even before I seen it with my own eyes.

                    I couldn't find both either of these otherwise amazing Sony phones in retail shops in my area. Another nail to the coffin.

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                      • 11 May 2019

                      Anonymous, 11 May 2019Hahaha you need to get out and walk around. Haven't you see... moreYes, I've known people who wear their uniforms outside but only when they're Playing sports in the fields, probably soccer. Or activities that would produce more bodily fluids than normal.
                      Any other day, they wear normal clothing like everybody else.

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                        • yQt
                        • 11 May 2019

                        Can Sony be more late to the party? I even forgot about this phone

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                          • ucu
                          • 11 May 2019

                          Soapy, 08 May 2019You don't use/wear those merchandise everyday as a multi to... moreHahaha you need to get out and walk around. Haven't you seen people walking around in their favourite team's football jersey?

                            Just a Zeiss lens why making so much nonsense!? It show the competitor are very unhappy now.

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                              • Lbb
                              • 11 May 2019

                              Who does care to a phone that been announced on February 25th and still not yet released !!

                              R.I.P. SONY mobile division.

                                s-pen pusher, 10 May 2019here, i looked up the definitions for you so you'd realize ... moreHere's an informal definition of fanaticism which I think suits better on this issue.

                                extreme interest in something, to a degree that some people find unreasonable .... Cambridge dictionary

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                                  • Anonymous
                                  • tj8
                                  • 10 May 2019

                                  A smart Shooter, 08 May 2019At least you have give some Kudos/praising to when Sony imp... morehow about you who always deny all sony's weaknesses?
                                  next time please look at the mirror first before you mention some one else.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • tj8
                                    • 10 May 2019

                                    s-pen pusher, 10 May 2019here, i looked up the definitions for you so you'd realize ... moreenthusiast = shanti
                                    fanatic = vV5

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                                      • 10 May 2019

                                      Shanti Dope, 09 May 2019Exactly, and vice versa, I can't be disguised as a 'fake' S... morehere, i looked up the definitions for you so you'd realize you are not a fan but an enthusiast.

                                      fanatic- a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for an extreme religious or political cause.

                                      enthusiast- a person who is very interested in a particular activity or subject.

                                      don't flatter and call yourself an xperia fan, because clearly you are not. again, fans will never have any of their brand's competition. you could move on to another brand, like i was an xperia fan for 3 years, then moved on to samsung for 5 years, and now am neither but currently an enthusiast of razer and xiaomi. yes, there are qualifications to be called a fan- it has to be that at the time of your fascination for a particular brand there's nothing else for you but that same brand. now i realized fanaticism is rather immature, so i have grown into an enthusiast instead.

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                                        • iny
                                        • 09 May 2019

                                        Shanti Dope, 09 May 2019What?! Dude, fanboying doesn't have any criteria for quali... moreagain, you're talking about two things here- fanatics and enthusiast. please look up the definition of fanaticism.