Huawei ban - winners and losers
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- punisher
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- 21 May 2019
For me this is pure nonsense and rubbish. So USA is dictating which phones i will buy. Hell no. USA is just becoming trade dictator with some BS restrictions. Its time to ditch Android overall. Well played Trump. You screwed most popular OS platform for good. HAH im buying phone expecting to read news about my phone brend if his d.ck is up or down. HELL the F NO.Go f yourself. I just hope Russia is coming with its own OS soon. Its time to cut the strings to BS.
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- Anonymous
- P$b
- 21 May 2019
No huawei will create a moonOS and show users fake AI tricks to fool users to buy there new phones.
Huawei fanboy keep using the fake phones with fake advertising.
- THE-TRUTH-REVEALER
- 7tV
- 21 May 2019
Anonymous, 21 May 2019You don't know what Huawei has in reserve, Huawei has Kirin... more1) "Huawei has KirinOS it's Chinese version of Sailfish OS, in Russia it's called Aurora, and almost applications from Android work from them" - App compatibility does not necessarily mean a good experience. Many Android apps were compatible with Blackberry's old PlayOS and Sailfish OS, but you don't hear about these OSes anymore. Remember Blackberry Playbook? The infamous FirePhone(which was a fork of Android)? All dusted.
2) "These countries since 10 years prepared these alternative" - Quality and quantity are two very different things. Another reason why these apps can never be a competitor is that they were developed to be used in the absence of Google, so they did not have the string quality requirements.
3) "Yandex can replace Google in all market around the world." - Highly doubt that. I just opened Yandex homepage after reading your comment. I went to their maps. Half the localities are not listed. Then I opened Google maps, and each and every turn and street around my house is labelled accurately. I played around for a while and even though I admire what they have done, most people will not replace Google with Yandex.
4) "And also 95-97% of the production of rare elements to make smartphone are located in China, and this country prohibit exportation" - This is serious misinformation on your part. China has preferred destination form manufacturing only because they have cheap labour.
Places like India, Brazil, Indonesia are more than ready to face the demand if Chinese market is less involved in manufacturing.
China is no unique destination where "rare elements" needed for smartphones are found, lol. Smartphones are software + hardware+PCBs and some other things like cameras. There is a minute amount of Gold and Platinum used at places, but it is tiny and if you are saying that these elements are only found in China...then I guess you need to use Google.
"That will be only collapse of global market with idiotic US people. Qualcomm, Apple, Google will lose a lot." - US is not idiotic entirely (I am not from the US btw). They just happened to have selected an extremely incapable leader. Companies like Google, Qualcomm and Apple are going nowhere. They employ the most talented people and the best strategists in the world. Many people have predicted the demise of these companies, none have proven right till now. They only keep getting bigger. Not because they are from US, but because they employ talent across the world and pay a lot of money for that.
- THE-TRUTH-REVEALER
- 7tV
- 21 May 2019
AlexandruDraghi, 21 May 2019They can make a software based on Android because they are ... moreI followed till the point of making an Android phone since it is open source....but play store copy? Impossible. If it is really so easy why aren't all apps available on Amazon's Fire OS because it is also a fork of Android? The reason being, only a very basic part of Android is open-source. Google apps, several of Google's modifications to Android and its framework are not. I know, because the place where I work, we have published 37-40 iterations of our app on the Google Play store.
Coming to the 10%-15% market share that is assigned to Huawei, that share is only because of Huawei's excellent hardware + Google's Android software. Take one major component(software) away and see how soon people abandon ship.
It is easy to lend support to Huawei on the comments. But when someone is actually spending $800-$1000 from their own pocket, that consumer will probably stick with tried and tested software rather than a brand new OS and services.
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- Anonymous
- mxU
- 21 May 2019
Observer, 21 May 2019Those figures are not right. Trust me mate, I work in the f... morehttps://www.mirror.co.uk/tech/huawei-phone-owners-flock-sell-16176897
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- Anonymous
- mxU
- 21 May 2019
[deleted post]You are officially the most laughable person on GSMArena.
Yeah apple and samsung are bad quality products and the West (Canada, USA, UK, Germany, France, Switzerland etc) are 3rd world countries.
Meanwhile China which doesn't even have a democracy is the king of the world LOL
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- Anonymous
- M1K
- 21 May 2019
Even the upcoming Huawei phones may no have access to the Google play stores, etc. Users can still downloads most apps from the APK pure app. Maybe Hwawei can install that in their upcoming new smart phone as a default play store app. in lieu of Google play store. This could be a work around to this matter.
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- Anonymous
- Rw{
- 21 May 2019
thats tough
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- pqu
- 21 May 2019
Observer, 21 May 2019Those figures are not right. Trust me mate, I work in the f... more> Trust me mate, I work in the field and I know
lolwut
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- Observer
- SpE
- 21 May 2019
Anonymous, 21 May 2019Waze is owned by Google!!! Do u really think people car... moreThose figures are not right. Trust me mate, I work in the field and I know exactly what phones people are buying. Nothing changed so far, no one is asking about what is the dela with the ban. if you Google it you will find first results in where Google is on the upper hand. how about you DuckDuckGo ?
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- Observer
- SpE
- 21 May 2019
abo3bdo, 21 May 2019If Huawei builds its new system on the open source version ... moreWaze is owned by Google mate :) nothing to be afraid of, they already have their own version of GPS already. The BeiDou Navigation Satellite System (BDS). Google it.
there is a company called satmap based in UK also that some companies can rely on.
However as a general ideea, u kinda got it wright
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- Anonymous
- qc5
- 21 May 2019
abo3bdo, 21 May 2019If Huawei builds its new system on the open source version ... moreIncorrect. Waze is owned by Google was acquired in June 2013.
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- Anonymous
- IHx
- 21 May 2019
Definitely the BAN heard around the world. Tit for tat. Who's next? Apple? Will China shut down production of the iPhone? It would take years if ever for apple to recover. How bout Taiwan? A slippery slope Trump has just stepped into. All manufacturers are now scrambling to come up with their own OS. So much for free world economy.
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- 21 May 2019
abo3bdo, 21 May 2019If Huawei builds its new system on the open source version ... moreOnce again, Huawei can make their own app store but Huawei is not allowed to deal with ANY American companies. That means no official apps for/from Facebook, Google, WhatsApp, Pinterest, eBay, Skype, PayPal, Netflix, Office, Photoshop, Twitter, Instagram, Messenger, etc, etc. Or American games (I'm not a gamer but I'm sure there are some). Doesn't matter how good app store they can make, it can't have those apps.
You and me can easily get an apk and install them, but what about the normal users? They would ask us, techies, to do it for them, and then nag us every time an app stops working or gets an update. Or they just wouldn't buy a Huawei.
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- Anonymous
- i8x
- 21 May 2019
abo3bdo, 21 May 2019If Huawei builds its new system on the open source version ... moreWaze is owned by Google!!!
Do u really think people care so much they will ditch android and all the apps they bought over the years and move to a Huawei's own OS or unlicensed Android?
Why on earth would they do that??
In the West people consider Huawei as the "oh that woahwey thing, from China. I heard they are good for a chinese brand" brand. They were until now "experimenting" with Huawei. They will instantly move to other brands now.
In the UK people went ahead to sell their Huawei phones to get rid of them! Google it. 81% depreciation for the p20 pro. 46% for the p30 pro!
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- KZ8
- 21 May 2019
I hope huawei can produce their own OS....Sad to hear this news..We need huawei technology...
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- 0WL
- 21 May 2019
Afra, 21 May 2019It will be suicide for China, thousands of Chinese are work... moreThe facilities are shared for several brands so NO! Those employees will continue working and manufacturing phones, etc, for other brands even if iPhone is no more manufactured there. But for something like that be more effective China should trade with India that has other facilities for iPhone. As India and China has high trades in phones area, and ban Apple together in both countries and influence areas and f*** USA.
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- abo3bdo
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- 21 May 2019
AlexandruDraghi, 21 May 2019That leads to monopoly both on iOS which Apple already has ... moreIf Huawei builds its new system on the open source version of Android and put its usual UI on top of it, the user will not feel any difference and only left the services of Google like the store and Huawei has launched its store from the period and its most of the applications on Google Play and can expand its services It to cover a postal service and can collaborate with Waze for navigation services and maps, which is an Asian company and has many users around the world and can continue to provide security updates and update the system for its devices and in isolation from Google and at a faster rate than Google and extend the period of continuous modernization of the system to be a lifetime that The hardware of the device was allowed as Apple does and it can make its own browser and so with a strong marketing plan and reduce the prices of its high products and if it succeeds in that it would have pulled the rug completely from under the feet of American companies
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- StM
- 21 May 2019
How far off are a completely open source device with a super fast risk-v soc
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- 21 May 2019
The real one, 20 May 2019China should stop providing components to iPhone. If that h... moreIt will be suicide for China, thousands of Chinese are working in iPhone manufacturing and Rnd, secondly, other companies will get it as a threat to the future.