Hisense T91 prototype shows UFS cards run circles around microSD cards

10 September 2019
UFS is the same tech that's found in most Android flagships and these cards would have allowed expandable storage to be as fast as the built-in.

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I heard of the UFS flash memory card from Samsung 4 years ago but it was never launched, even now you can only find the hybrid card slots on some of their laptops. Even Huawei has their own memory storage card of much slower performance & incompatible with all other devices....

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    Anonymous, 13 Sep 2019At some point people were working towards making it viable,... moreA simple google search revealed this;
    https://www.quora.com/What-ARM-SoC-families-currently-support-PCIe-and-which-ones-have-PCIe-support-planned

    A detailed search would reveal more.

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      • 13 Sep 2019

      O S, 11 Sep 2019https://www.techdesignforums.com/practice/technique/mpcie-p... moreAt some point people were working towards making it viable, but did it ever actually launch in a shipping product? Which mobile SOCs have/had PCIe lanes?

        wantone, 11 Sep 2019This was my reason for moving from Samsung when they did th... moreThe same with me. In case of there is something wrong with my phone and probably needed a soft or hard reset or even a complete reformat when installing custom ROM, my files is still safely available in the SD card.

          FreedaBees, 11 Sep 2019They may have had a slot, but it was pointless because UFS ... moreErhmm, you did note the link to an ebay listing offering them?

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            • 11 Sep 2019

            agentlotek, 10 Sep 2019https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-... moreNice find, but that is very recent. I have been checking about every 8 months or so since Samung originally announced the cards in 2016 to see if they had actually made them available to buy. You can tell how recently that page must be from the fact that even the Note 10+ doesn't have a UFS card slot.

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              • 11 Sep 2019

              EskeRahn, 11 Sep 2019They used them for some notebooks. See e.g. the compatibil... moreThey may have had a slot, but it was pointless because UFS cards have never been sold, so no one could ever buy a UFS card to use in the slot.

                EskeRahn, 11 Sep 2019Well their sick BS excuses for removing memory card slots d... moreThis was my reason for moving from Samsung when they did the same on the s6, i prefer to keep my stuff on an SD card.

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                  • 11 Sep 2019

                  Update the software in all phones so that it can read any sd card which has a card slot.

                    Anonymous, 11 Sep 2019Most phone maker start to removing memory slot in their fla... moreWell their sick BS excuses for removing memory card slots disappears when the cards are just as fast as the build in storage....
                    The only excuse left is that it is harder to make watertight.

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                      • 11 Sep 2019

                      Most phone maker start to removing memory slot in their flagship line up, no wonder this tech got ignored. Even regular note10 doesnt have it anymore.

                        UFS 3.1, 10 Sep 2019Yeah! Also this piece of the article "Samsung, which helped... moreThey used them for some notebooks.
                        See e.g. the compatibility list of this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174004077429
                        The memory card slot takes both UFS and various microSD
                        See e.g. P23 of this http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/UM/201905/20190507140142573/Win10_Manual_ENG.pdf

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                          UFS 3.1, 10 Sep 2019Yeah! Also this piece of the article "Samsung, which helped... moreI don't recall ever hearing about a phone with one. And I've certainly never seen the cards.

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                            O S, 10 Sep 2019OEMs abandoned UFS cards just as they abandoned microSD Exp... moreMobile processors have PCIe lanes?

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                              rakeshvijay, 10 Sep 2019So atleast SD cards aren't going away from phones yet..... Yes totally agree

                              Bu here is the thing, these speeds benefit larger capacity, as it would not even be perceptible if the file size is say 30Mb

                              The thing I can't marry up is the 5G angle.

                              The download time for a movie being touted using 5G destroys the 4G speed
                              If the phone doesn't have UFS microSD and whatever mmc, installed
                              Current storage will be eclipsed by 5G this means more Ram

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                                FreedaBees, 10 Sep 2019UFS cards never caught on because Samsung never made any, a... moreYeah! Also this piece of the article "Samsung, which helped introduce the new standard and designed a hybrid slot, doesn’t have any phones that support them any more." confused me cause I never saw a Samsung with a hybrid slot.

                                  YESSS!!!! I've been waiting so long for these cards to arrive. Seriously, when are manufacturers gonna get these cards in their device? 500MB/s read and 200MB/s write? Just ditch the micro SD slot, and add a UFS slot right there. Triple slots with dual sim and one UFS slot is exactly what we need. They should start at 256 and go to 1TB. Hopefully in 3 years, there'd be more than 2TB micro UFS cards.

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                                    FreedaBees, 10 Sep 2019UFS cards never caught on because Samsung never made any, a... morehttps://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-cards/mb-fa256g-am-mb-fa256g-am/

                                      Anonymous, 10 Sep 2019The iPhone didn't want slow performance due slow SD card wh... moreWatchu saying dude if Apple wanted they actually could make their own SDcard that isnt "slowing the performance down", which is not the case with Evo SDcards of samsung that are less pricey than SanDisk.