Samsung is shutting down its custom CPU core department, will use standard ARM cores

04 November 2019
The Exynos 9830 will likely be the first chipset to ditch the Mongoose custom cores.

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Jaeger, 04 Nov 2019In fact, the only time Samsung made a significantly better ... moreAgain....you must not have ever followed to know anything relevant.
From s1 to s8 exynos was overall superior.
Usually in cpu, efficiency, and audio.
Exynos was actually even better in gpu 4 or 5 years in all 10 generations. Either by brute force or sustainability. So sometimes in cpu, gpu, efficiency, and audio.

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    SteveFox, 04 Nov 20195 generations of failures to catch up to both QC and ARM an... more5 generations of failure? They've had two generations of falling slightly behind because of learning a new type of raw design.

      It obviously money is the main reason. Paying license fee for ARM reference is cheaper than doing R&D for themselves.

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        • 04 Nov 2019

        Jaeger, 04 Nov 2019Only in multicore. Single core they were comparable and GPU... moreThat sounds like a net win for the E8890.
        +battery
        +multicore
        =single core
        -GPU

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          • 04 Nov 2019

          Samsung needs to get ride of there bloatware in order to improve overall performance. I used mate 20 pro before the banned and to be honest I’m not even a fan of Huawei mate 20 pro when it comes to gaming and overall performance better than my S10 plus Exyons and my pervious mi9 especially with PUBG that runs better than mi9 SD 855 and S10 plus exyons 9820.

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            Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Are you kidding me? Snapdragon is the best for performance.... moreYeah with throttling and overheating.

              While from a software perspective it is great to use an standardized architecture through all mobile devices, if the situation with Huawei has taught us something is that having only one system or solution to a problem makes you a slave to the ones providing such a solution.

              Anyone happy that things are turning out this way instead of wishing for Exynos improvement is nothing but a blind fanboy simply cheering for snapdragon because they are the most popular, like they cheer for Apple, Jordans, Gucci, and all overpriced brands that offer the same for twice the money.

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                • 04 Nov 2019

                5 generations of failures to catch up to both QC and ARM and God knows how many billions down the drain.
                This is bad news for all of us as it dwindles the competition.
                Just proves how good Apple's Axx SoCs are.
                In-house GPU and CPU with soon their own modem.

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                  • 04 Nov 2019

                  Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Are you kidding me? Snapdragon is the best for performance.... moreLol, that is only because it killed the opposition. Qualcomm was never the fastest chip. It would always be someone else, Samsung, Ti Omap, even nVidia at times. Then Qualcomm bought all the 4g modem rights and nobody could build a good chipset that included 4g (she would use everyone).

                  Qualcomm is like Intel but in mobile. Talents hacks that have better lawyers than engineers. There is a reason that Apple (that used to trail) is now 2-3 generation ahead.

                  Best by elimination does not make you good. The situation on android chips us so bad I almost wanna cry.

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                    abigfanoftechs, 04 Nov 2019Samsung's SoCs are trash anyway. Qualcomm's SoCs get trash... moreWhen Samsung dont compete with arm since they are 2nd they is no motivation for arm they can reduce the upgrades take a chill and dont care about apple like Samsung

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                      • 04 Nov 2019

                      Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Exynos ia trash. Before my S10, I was using S9+. The S9+ wi... moreS9 SD GPU is actually slightly better than s10 exynos even tho Its a 40% improvement
                      The cpu on s10 doesn't throttle much but is not optimised for gaming like fornite can run at 60fps on high after being optimised

                        They should RIP Exynos and use only Snapdragon on S line.
                        Here in Brasil is sad to have to use S10 with Exynos.

                          AnonD-558092, 04 Nov 2019The E8890 was better than the SD820 though.Only in multicore. Single core they were comparable and GPU wise, SD820 was superior. 8890 was more efficient, though.

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                            Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019Qualcomm doesn't care about performance, we are f@$!edAre you kidding me? Snapdragon is the best for performance. In android world it is unbeatable.

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                              thats a bad news

                                Anonymous, 04 Nov 2019You cant design a cpu out of nothing . Especially backward ... moreCorrect me if i am wrong but didn't Cyrix do just that back in days?

                                  I think Samsung did wrong move because even their chipset wasn't the level of Qualcomm's chipsets, they were in a good place were they got experience and at anytime they could change the game meaning if they need more experience or more tech to make their chipset better, then they should have done more acquisitions of those other expert companies from Europe.
                                  Unfortunately, when all the companies use ARM, there will be no competition or innovation. Innovation comes when one company is doing more more in his technology and developing it and Samsung had the chance from their place in the market and popularity

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                                    Shanti Dope, 04 Nov 2019It didn't even worry Qualcomm one bit that Exynos's largest... moreYou should learn English, I never said nor implied Qualcomm will become more competitive if exynos goes away

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                                      Exynos ia trash. Before my S10, I was using S9+. The S9+ with snapdragon, super snappy, fast, no lags after a semester... My Exynos S10 it's been a semester and it's laggy and slow (when compared to my S9 and what a flagship should be). I could play PUBG mobile without any problems on my Snapdragon S9+. On the Enyxos S10... I had to uninstall because simply can't run the game. I'm going back to iPhone.

                                        Jojo, 04 Nov 2019And the death of Samsung's Cell Phone division begins. In 5... moreLol joke of the week.