Samsung Galaxy S11 to feature 9-to-1 Bayer sensor on its 108MP camera

16 December 2019
The design is also revealed, periscope shooter coming as a telephoto lens.

Sort by:

Nick Tagataka, 16 Dec 2019Nokia 808 is a horrible low light performer by today's stan... moreWhat do you mean by Nokia 808 "when you consider its sensor size"? To this day, even the sensor size of the Samsung-developed 108MP is still not as big as that Nokia. The only phone that beats the Nokia in terms of sensor size is the 1" Panasonic Lumix CM1.

The reason why that Nokia didn't perform well in low light is that it lacks OIS. It's the same story when I compared Xiaomi's Mi 9 and Mi 8 in low light condition - the latter produced much better photo than the former, and that's with the standard stock camera app. When I do the same comparison using a Gcam port, the difference is even greater between the two.

    Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Except Super Slow Motion, Xperia 1 and 5 do exactly same th... moreHow do you explain the lack of rolling shutter effect on a year old iPhone XS' camera then? The sensor used on Note 9 shows this effect during video recording, and that one even has an integrated DRAM for much faster readout speed. In comparison XS does not show a single sign of it.
    Also due to the Smart HDR processing done in real time, iPhone XS/11's main sensor must be able to do 4K120. Not just at 60 or 90fps.

      • O
      • Oneplus loled
      • 6cb
      • 17 Dec 2019

      Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Except Super Slow Motion, Xperia 1 and 5 do exactly same th... moreDude, it's no longer about the sensor.
      The sensor is only used to retrieve light. You still need to temporarily save those huge data. Where would that be ? Even the fastest storage available today is very slow compared to the dd2 800, even.
      Ddr2 800mhz has a bandwith of almost 6,5 gigabytes per second. Even the fastest NVMe storage with raid 0 configuration is a joke compared to that speed. And that's just DDR2 !!!! dd4 1600 has almost 13 gigabytes per second speed!
      So, that's where DRAM comes in. It makes sure it always has available resources and bandwidth that is not shared (like the usual, you know, system RAM), so the censor can transport the data faster and the cpu will also process it faster.

        • ?
        • Anonymous
        • A%d
        • 17 Dec 2019

        I have been a long time Samsung phones since S3.
        I really feel Samsung should up the game without even being asked, having said that innovation should not come as a result of competition rather as "innovation"

          • ?
          • Anonymous
          • XRg
          • 17 Dec 2019

          Anonymous, 17 Dec 2019When you downsample a 27 megapixel photo to a 12 megapixel ... moreWhat phone do you use?

            • ?
            • Anonymous
            • gBV
            • 17 Dec 2019

            Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019If they say pixel size becomes 2.4 , it means it does 12MP ... moreWhen you downsample a 27 megapixel photo to a 12 megapixel photo, then approximately the same amount of photons contribute to a single pixel when you compare it to a 108 megapixel sensor in 12 megapixel pixel binning mode.

              • S
              • Shui8
              • KZK
              • 17 Dec 2019

              Now that is one serious camera upgrade from Samsung. Looking forward to it.

              All they have to do now lower down the plasticky image processing looks & color saturation as its a bigger sensor already.

                • ?
                • Anonymous
                • XRg
                • 16 Dec 2019

                Shanti Dope, 16 Dec 2019Honestly, I don't believe it would mean the greatest low li... moreMan you are stuck on your fantasy 80Mp sensor.
                Also there is huge difference between 1.4 micron and 2.4 micron pixel size, not much between 1.4 & 1.6.

                  I really hope all the leaks re true. A company that puts the most work into its product deserves to have the most sales and Samsung is definitely doing just that so I wish them all the success.

                    • ?
                    • Anonymous
                    • LQu
                    • 16 Dec 2019

                    S11+ = 12/108MP 1/1.33"
                    S11/11e = 12MP 1/1.8"

                      • S
                      • Stan
                      • jdR
                      • 16 Dec 2019

                      Wish they had a proper 1/1.5", 12mp, 2+um sensor. This pixel binning stuff might be great for a high noise HDR snaps, but multiple binned shallow well pixels will never replace 1 large well pixel in a normal photo scenario, which is like 99% of the time. Yes, the flexibility might be great with binning, but there are drawbacks all around.

                        • A
                        • Anonymous2
                        • X{X
                        • 16 Dec 2019

                        Where did you find these specs?

                          • A
                          • Anonymous
                          • X{X
                          • 16 Dec 2019

                          I didn't find any specification on 4k@90

                            • ?
                            • Anonymous
                            • M6S
                            • 16 Dec 2019

                            finally! 12MP is more than enough for photos, but giant pixel size is the real win.

                              Samsung getting serious, feeling heat from rising Huawei and other brands competition.

                                • G
                                • Go sammy
                                • smd
                                • 16 Dec 2019

                                Great hardware, now let's hope Samsung will bind it with a great A. I softwear

                                  • ?
                                  • Anonymous
                                  • gBV
                                  • 16 Dec 2019

                                  Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019If they use 9 pixels with different exposures that could in... moreIf they always use a 2.4 micrometer pixel size hardware mode, then they won't use different exposures per pixel because then 0.8 micrometer pixels would have a different exposure, so it would be a 0.8 micrometer mode.

                                    • ?
                                    • Anonymous
                                    • LQu
                                    • 16 Dec 2019

                                    Nick Tagataka, 16 Dec 2019So "just newer version" of IMX363 that can only readout at ... moreExcept Super Slow Motion, Xperia 1 and 5 do exactly same things.
                                    5 does not have DRAM.

                                    Imx400 (XZ Premium) can do 4K90, imx586 can do too without DRAM.
                                    Sensors evolve fast.

                                      • ?
                                      • Anonymous
                                      • LQu
                                      • 16 Dec 2019

                                      Nick Tagataka, 16 Dec 2019So "just newer version" of IMX363 that can only readout at ... moreThings Apple do are software based, not hardware.

                                      Imx586 = 48MP@30fps, 4K@90, 1080@240
                                      Imx378 (Pixel 1) = 12MP@60fps 10bit
                                      Imx677 23MP 1/2.3" (nobody used yet) = 23MP@50fps 12bit, 4K@120, 1080@300

                                      No CPU from 2010 - 2019 was able to use all potential of sensors.
                                      Apple 4K60 is still 8bit.
                                      10bit records much more data and has higher DR.

                                        Anonymous, 16 Dec 2019Only Sony and Samsung use DRAM. Sony charged $25 for imx... moreSo "just newer version" of IMX363 that can only readout at 30fps in full resolution somehow can record 4K60 in extended dynamic range mode where each frame is a combination of two differently exposed frames, and there's "nothing special" about this ability, sure. You know that this insane readout speed wouldn't have been possible without DRAM, right?

                                          3 of 8