Huawei P40 Pro might have a quad-curved display with no notch, 52MP main camera

14 January 2020
Expect a pill-shaped punch hole and 13 MP output.

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Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Such generalized garbage can only come from arm chair exper... moreIf the rumour that P40 Pro will have a 1/1.3" sensor is true, it will have 2.31 micron pixels which are only ~8% smaller than S20 Ultra's 2.4 micron ones. The difference will be mainly in colour reproduction (where S20U theoretically have an advantage over P40P due to Bayer CFA), low light performance and detail rendition (P40P should be better at those two given both devices will carry over the same image processing from their respective predecessors).

    Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020I think no other manufacturer will overtake Samsung this ye... moreThat's only if Samsung will use better software processing that can fully utilise the sensor's true potential. Other companies you just listed have been usually better than Samsung in this regard.

      Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Such generalized garbage can only come from arm chair exper... moreWow didn't know you've prototyped both these sensors to know witch is better overall

        Every brand will come with super resolutions and multi-cameras, real world usage will be the most important however. Looking forward to p40pro-s20ultra-xperia0 camera battle. Though with some using different approach, like s20 with 1.8um pixels, its hard to call it inferior as it should produce better colors. Wonder if huawei also got such sort of black horse...

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          Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Sony sensors are better than Samsung. Samsung sensors are ... moreNope xiaomi mi 10 chose 108mp over imx 686

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            • Anonymous
            • Kxr
            • 15 Jan 2020

            I think no other manufacturer will overtake Samsung this year in camera department.
            P40 pro sensor is good but doesn't look as good as the one on Samsung.

            We have already seen the potential of HMX series on the Mi note 10.
            It's successor is surely to do well in the s20 ultra.

            Apple and Pixel as usual will play safe and give same old boring sensors without much innovation.

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              • Kxr
              • 15 Jan 2020

              Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Sony sensors are better than Samsung. Samsung sensors are ... moreSuch generalized garbage can only come from arm chair experts.
              HMX series is miles better than IMX 686.

              Thank God they use this new 52mp sensor instead of IMX 686 on p40 pro.
              Although it is still behind the HMX sensor.
              Samsung HMX series sporting 9to1 pixel binning to achieve effective pixel size of 2.4. Huawei stuck with effective pixel size of 1.9 micron.

                LG Superfan, 15 Jan 2020How the hell did you calculate itIf you assume that its sensor size is identical to Samsung's 108MP sensor (1/1.33"), you can do the following formula to calculate the pixel pitch.
                sqrt((108 * 0.8^2) / 52)

                I got 1.153µm so it's slightly different from what the anonymous got, but it's close enough. Don't try to calculate it from inch, because the "inch" used to represent the sensor size is different from inch i.e. 1" sensor does not have a diagonal length of 1 inch.

                  Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Actually is 1/1.33", not 1/1.3". Isocell has 12cm diagonal. You mean 12mm diagonal?

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                    • 15 Jan 2020

                    What's the point of launching this phone in Europe...without Google Services, it will have nearly zero sales. Huawei phones are China only now. And i don't seee things getting better in 2020, probably worse as everybody will forget Huawei, which is already closing shops everywhere. RIP

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                      Kress, 15 Jan 2020Also with no Google services. Meaning just for mainland China :)cool story

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                        The Last Oracle, 15 Jan 2020A 52MP sensor would mean that it's a 12MP Quad Bayer pixel ... more12x4 is 48. Also, it has been proven by several companies that mp count isn't everything. Look at the Pixel phones and Samsung. Mp means nothing without good software.

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                          • fr6
                          • 15 Jan 2020

                          I really like this brand name HUAWEI, I got P8 lite, every one they like use my phone when they take pictures, criestal clear I just emagin the p40, please HUAWEI keep this product so simple I like it

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                            • 15 Jan 2020

                            Also with no Google services. Meaning just for mainland China :)

                              Generally I do not like Huawei, because they might stop getting Android updates any time, due to some trump. And also the P series usually have inferior chipset compared to Snapdragon.

                              But if they do this design and make it waterproof like in the previous years... Well it might be something awesome, even if it is a bit slower on the tests (which is most probably unnoticeable in daily use)

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                                • 15 Jan 2020

                                The Last Oracle, 15 Jan 2020Nobody has a 12cm diagonal sensor. Not even the largest med... moreNice catch there. This guy thinks he's right all the time.

                                  A 52MP sensor would mean that it's a 12MP Quad Bayer pixel with very mild EIS or that the final image is 13MP instead of 12MP.

                                  Smartphone makers need to push the final MP count to 20MP from 12MP in smartphone sensors, with both larger pixels and much faster readout.

                                  Hopefully DXO Mark labs started disassembling smartphone lenses, to see how much the lenses can actually resolve, and how much detail loss is happening due to the lenses and other factors. Also, some sensors would inherently have sharper images, depending upon the Pixel size, coatings on the sensors (including OLPF) and micro lens design.

                                    Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Actually is 1/1.33", not 1/1.3". Isocell has 12cm diagonal. Nobody has a 12cm diagonal sensor. Not even the largest medium formats.

                                      This Will be very nice, no notch. I hope in the sector of battery P40 pro will have 6000mAh battery or at least more than 5000mAh with basic option 12GB and maximum 16GB ram (because Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra and one Plus 8 will start from this point of equipment). And I hope Huawei to bring it in Europe. If troubles with Google continues or will be solved in any case Huawei must stop the dependence from Google, because Google prevents Huawei evolution. Huawei and All Chinese companies must to cooperate to bring an alternative OS, because IOS and Android are monopoly and are blocking the evolution of the Chinese smartphone industry.

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                                        Anonymous, 15 Jan 2020Sony sensors are better than Samsung. Samsung sensors are ... moreCross my fingers the new P series wont use imx686. Its a downgrade from their current imx600y.

                                        I bet its a custom Sony sensor again, exclusive just for Huawei's flagship.

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