Lumias aren't competitive enough, say European carriers

17 April, 2012
The high price tags, mediocre marketing plans and some software issues are to blame.

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  • Tizen Takeover
  • jxx
  • 17 Apr 2012

Should've went with MeeGo.

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    • AnonD-50849
    • Nvg
    • 17 Apr 2012

    Nokia marketing strategy is like having a super dupe gf @ his right arm and is more interested in the mediocre one walking down the street... MeeGoo is one of best and simplest OS on a phone and even though Nokia headed straight to windows phone os pfffff don't be surprised that your super duper gf leaves you alone :p

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      • The Man
      • fqd
      • 17 Apr 2012

      Anonymous, 17 Apr 2012WM is the previous OS by Microsoft WP is the new one and it... moreI DO NOT care still they have a lot of experience in field of building OS and its shame they have been beaten by new OS "Android"
      Google is the best and Google Chrome OS will conquer Windows desktop soon

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        • Dheeraj
        • U@@
        • 17 Apr 2012

        The Man, 17 Apr 2012Actually WP launched before Android by the name "windo... moreSay that louder mate. Let all the ignorant losers out there listen to that clearly.

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          • Ale
          • MNJ
          • 17 Apr 2012

          I think the problem with WP is that it doesn't have any stand out features that help set it apart and make people want to give it a try.

          I have just upgraded my handset on the weekend and whilst I was in the phones4u store going through my options (that included the Iphone 4s, Htc One X and S, Sony Xperia S etc) I also asked to be shown the Lumia 800.

          Now don't get me wrong I was quite impressed with the 800 without ever being even remotely interested in choosing it.

          WP is slick and quite aesthetically pleasing sure, but there is just nothing stand out about it, the same as goes 800 itself which features fairly mid-range hardware (for 2012 standards)

          Nokia have failed to both produce and market any WP handsets that stand out far enough from the rest of the pack to be noticed. This failure is particularly bad considering that WP itself has not had much of an impact in the market.

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            • sad
            • ScD
            • 17 Apr 2012

            New Nokia Lumias are horrible handsets. WP has worst battery live from all smartphone OS, the smallest number of applications, worst hardware and very high price compared with the yeard old HW specs.

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              • AnonD-46547
              • LBa
              • 17 Apr 2012

              GSMArena posted this but in the past posted

              http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800_becomes_best_seller_for_dutch_carrier_kpn-news-3481.php

              http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_lumia_800_sales_going_way_better_than_previously_reported-news-3421.php

              The carriers can say what they want,just like we all have different views. Let's see numbers later on.

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                • Gilberto
                • P7k
                • 17 Apr 2012

                I also think that if he would sell more Android, ever thought, Android with the style of the N9 Swype, would be amazing.

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                  • AnonD-397
                  • d%{
                  • 17 Apr 2012

                  hahhaah, now nokia die finally :P

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                    • Anonymous
                    • nTp
                    • 17 Apr 2012

                    The Man, 17 Apr 2012Actually WP launched before Android by the name "windo... moreWM is the previous OS by Microsoft WP is the new one and its totally different OS therefore its new

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                      • AnonD-45553
                      • PRP
                      • 17 Apr 2012

                      wat the fuck.. wat do you know of lumia?.. not enough to compete?.. this is just the beginn9ing mate and look at its popularity already! nokia's wp is just some months old.. no other phone also became popular in a short time! clean your brain and talk k! just give time and we'll see who cries and who laugh later

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                        • The Man
                        • fqd
                        • 17 Apr 2012

                        bongbong, 17 Apr 2012Windows phone is still new. It's less than 1 year old. A... moreActually WP launched before Android by the name "windows mobile" Windows CE in 1990 so they had way way head start
                        And watch your language kid
                        And Still Android beats the hell of Windows even Windows 8 will not be a competitor for Android gingerbread

                          AnonD-11435, 17 Apr 2012I do not agree, The Nokia Lumia is a great phone and everyo... moreI have to tell you, with time there will be bugs on Windows as well. I am absolutely sure. If the WP8 will be a very good OS, then you can expect that it will be attacked.

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                            • bongbong
                            • wc7
                            • 17 Apr 2012

                            Windows phone is still new. It's less than 1 year old.

                            Android was crap when it first launched

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                              • AnonD-2663
                              • tA8
                              • 17 Apr 2012

                              Funny how the comments come from mysterious executives working for European carriers.

                              Better than expected Lumia sales are hurting bread and butter profits that carriers were getting from the sale of iphones/androids.

                              sell 1 million Lumia's - $25 profit margin/handset = $25m

                              sell 1 m androids/iphones - $50 profit margin/handset = $50m

                              Fortunately for Nokia, moving production to China will have a huge impact on their profitability.

                              These carriers are full of crap when they talk about wanting more competition; The only thing they're concerned with is increasing profits

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                                • Anonymous
                                • RmC
                                • 17 Apr 2012

                                Well said those Nokia models are completely dead European ppl disliked.

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                                  • AnonD-11435
                                  • vuy
                                  • 17 Apr 2012

                                  I do not agree, The Nokia Lumia is a great phone and everyone I know who has had a windows phone handset has loved it. Also the Nokia Lumia 900 so far has only had one bug found unlike most android phones where 1000's of bugs are found a day with no fixes for months or at all. Also some of the bugs on android are more catastrophic like the bug on the motorola atrix that causes it to black screen and reset if it has to change networks or samsung S2 where changing from HSDPA+ network to HSDPA causes the phone internet to stop working and you have to restart your handset.

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                                    • Tom
                                    • D$S
                                    • 17 Apr 2012

                                    How can these phones be competetive when the Lumia 900 which is about to ship in Europe has same specs as a year old Galaxy S II, can't recorde 1080p video etc? It's Windows Phone at fault here and this was a bad decision by Nokia to go with Windows Phone at this stage of its (im)maturity.

                                    It would be better for Nokia to stick with MeeGo, now if the want any feature to be implemented they have to beg Microsoft first so how can you be effective and innovative working this way? With Android you have the source code that you can tweak, change, etc. but with WP - no way.

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • PSx
                                      • 17 Apr 2012

                                      No blututh,no free apps as android no althougth microsoft being such a huge giant in pc world but what has microsoft created for mobile

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                                        • John
                                        • Tus
                                        • 17 Apr 2012

                                        Hurry up Nokia with Lumia 900 in Europe.