The 64MP tele camera of the Galaxy S20 is for 8K video, not 4-in-1 binning

29 January 2020
The Galaxy S20's 64MP tele will be used through cropping for pictures and 8K video.

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Nonono, 29 Jan 2020It already 2020.. it doesn't matter who copy who .. they ar... moreI want an Android phone that records the best video and Samsung and Sony seems to be the only ones who offers that.

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    So for the brutal rip-off price of $1400, you're not even getting actual optical zoom, but only fake zoom that's done by cropping?
    Shame on you, Samsung, for trying to sell ridiculous sub-par technology at such brutal rip-off prices!

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      I'mPhone, 29 Jan 2020Xiaomi phones have subpar build quality, their MIUI is a me... moreYour Realme X2 pro showing ads is unintrusive but xioami phones showing ads is bad?
      Same ads that can be removed within 2 min.
      Yet you will keep complaining about this in 2020.

      Subpar build quality? Xiaomi were one of the first manufacturers to provide sturdy metal phones at 200 dollars. They offer exceptional build quality at low price. Whereas manufacturers like Samsung give plastic build in low end segment.

      You just hate all Xiaomi products.
      Don't forget that Realme exists today because it was launched to compete with Redmi (from Xiaomi)

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        LG Superfan, 29 Jan 2020Some say its 10X and some say its 5XJust seen this on a website
        "As per a recent leak (also by Agarwal), this Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G camera setup will include a 108-megapixel custom-made ISOCELL main camera, a 12-megapixel ultra-wide angle camera, a 48-megapixel telephoto shooter with 10x optical zoom support, and an impressive 100x digital zoom output, and a ToF fourth sensor"

          Anonymous, 29 Jan 2020No other manufacturer currently offers 8k@30fps. You are a... moreI'm simply suggesting how it could've been even better. To me 64MP sounds like a lot of wasted pixels if it will come with a traditional Bayer CFA, a 32MP sensor would be more balanced and fit to the job.

            Anonymous, 29 Jan 2020That's not necessarily true. In the center of the frame a s... moreYou might be right about your first statement about the lens' resolving power, but I disagree with you on the second one. An identically sized 32MP sensor coupled with clever super-res multi frame image processing can produce an image that is just as much as detailed as 64MP sensor, while being benefited from increased light sensitivity of individual pixels. 0.8µm is pretty damn tiny, and as you already have noticed, it requires "perfect lighting conditions" in order to produce relatively noise free image.

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              Nick Tagataka, 29 Jan 2020Honestly, I'm not quite sure how well this might work out. ... moreNo other manufacturer currently offers 8k@30fps.
              You are already complaining about its quality.

                Pabliell, 29 Jan 2020Does that mean the S20 won't have optical zoom? I mean if i... moreit miht have if the lens is 52mm lens (that means 2x zoom). And the rest might be only digital zoom or maybe branded as hybrid. But it still god idea th, since periscope system would require more space inside the phone, hence the size would be bigger

                  Some leaks of individuals using the S20 Ultra on twitter...

                  Supposedly there is a directors tool that uses all three cameras to track an object...

                  All flagship android handsets are about to make the iPhone 11 pro maxes cameras prehistoric...

                  Fancy having to keep an iPhone 11 for 5 years? Guess they forgot about the fact that Android are light years ahead of Apple these past couple of years...

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                    AND NAND, 29 Jan 2020UI wise his first point is right.. And 4k 60fps recording w... moreless features in android compared to ios? are you high right now?

                      AND NAND, 29 Jan 2020UI wise his first point is right.. And 4k 60fps recording w... more"UI wise his first point is right"
                      EMUI 10 looks nothing like iOS (apart from Gallery app's "Share" menu), you should go see it yourself.

                      "his second statement is ture"
                      If so, I'd like to see a review that compares S9+ and Mate 30 Pro's video recording performance side by side.

                        Mastamolvi, 29 Jan 2020Is the camera on the s20 ultra 10× optical zoom or no... moreSome say its 10X and some say its 5X

                          Anonymous, 29 Jan 2020That's not necessarily true. In the center of the frame a s... moreThat's somewhat true, but you have forgotten about pixel size. Most of the sensors used for telephoto lens have at least 1 micron pixel size, while current high MP count sensors have 0.8 micron pixel size. Smaller pixels mean less light and more noise.

                            Does that mean the S20 won't have optical zoom? I mean if it'll be cropping using 64MP sensor, it's just digital zoom.

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                              Nick Tagataka, 29 Jan 2020Honestly, I'm not quite sure how well this might work out. ... moreThat's not necessarily true. In the center of the frame a smartphone lens could be able to capture that much detail. Even if the fnumber is 3.0, the diffraction wouldn't be very noticeable in a crop.
                              For nearly lossless zoom the megapixel count is the most important thing. In perfect light conditions a 12.2 megapixel crop of the 64 megapixel sensor would have a similar noise performance as Huawei's 80mm camera.

                                Nick Tagataka, 29 Jan 2020"less features and copying Apple in so many stuff" "can't ... moreUI wise his first point is right.. And 4k 60fps recording wise his second statement is ture.. Too much fanboism is bad for health..

                                  As I said earlier. The 64 mp sensor would capture 8k recording

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                                    This makes sense. Currently no manufacturer has been able to capture many details with Quad Bayer sensors and there are often ugly artifacts. A 64 megapixel Quad Bayer sensor in the high resolution mode would be more comparable to a ≈20 megapixel Bayer sensor with artifacts.

                                      Honestly, I'm not quite sure how well this might work out. Indeed, having native 64MP Bayer sensor would be great for cropping, but it also means the dynamic range could be very limited and the noise could get unacceptably intrusive at higher ISO settings, which would most likely make its 8K video recording feature pretty much unusable in less than ideal lighting conditions. I would rather have 32MP telephoto lens with double the pixel area, I mean like, a smartphone lens cannot fully resolve 64MP resolution anyway.

                                        GAMIRSFM, 29 Jan 2020Yeah right, Huawei having less features and copying Apple i... more"less features and copying Apple in so many stuff"
                                        "can't even record 4k60fps as good as a S9+"
                                        Have you been living under a rock or something? Right now neither of those statements are remotely close to being true.

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