iPhone 12 leak: CAD-based renders show design, 120Hz screens and 3x zoom camera tipped

11 May 2020
Details continue to change as Apple engineers try to figure out what works and what doesn't. A 64MP camera apparently falls in the "doesn't" column.

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Anonymous, 11 May 2020If you're saying actual upper physical notch, It was Motoro... moreWell yes, except that the iPhone notch have a specific goal that probably differ quite a lot from those other one.
It is made to give as close as possible to all display front while keeping useful sensors and justifying the camera presence with 3D facial authentification sensors and avoiding bezel.
It is also about pushing the status bar out of the rest of the display, if you look at the iPhone 8 and the iPhone X on any non-fulldisplay app (which hide the status bar and access the space around the notch), lets take for example here this schematic :
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ8GbPLV4AADvet.jpg
This visual indication if it :
https://www.iphonehacks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/iphone-x-iphone-8-top-bar.png
And here this picture :
https://gori.me/uploads/2017/09/instagram-image-iphone8edition.jpg

You clearly see that they moved the notification bar outside the rest of the display, knowing the display area is already taller than its predecessor (iPhone 8 (Plus) vs iPhone X), if we kept the idea of making content on a certain display ratio, the notch should have never bothered any users as it shouldn't interfere with any content...
Apple made two mistakes :
1, the notch impeding the status bar, they should have allow it to be displayed on two lines as there is more than enough space for that, it would have allowed to put as much status icons as on the iPhone 8.
2, they lets apps have access to this area, while having an "ambiance" effect where only things like the same colors as the game give the illusion of more lateral area (like the TVs with ambiant light) would be good, letting more than that access the display around the notch give the illusion that the notch is a nuisance, while on iOS it isn't, this part should only have the basic back color of the opened app, and for any media with changing color/no main color, having it either black or with the darkest color around that edge to give ambiance without disturbance.
But the best solution would clearly have to simply lets this area dark/user selected color and to always show the status icons, including in landscape mode where they would rotate and the text (carrier name) would be written top down, with option to hide/dim it on fulldisplay contents.

That would have been a better implementation of the Notch, and on previous phones, it may had an interest, but on modern Android Smartphone it is more a total nuisance than anything else.
And when we analyse it that way, we can understand why it make sense and why Apple or if they still existed, Microsoft phones would make sense having a notch because of their non notification, status icons only top bar, and why the notch implementation, even if inspired by older design, is clearly way more thought than them and have more justifications behind it.

I like the idea behind the LG V serie, I sort of like the Essential PH-1 idea of minimalist and least affecting possible notch, I also like a little the idea behind the Huawei notch with 3D facial recognition as it is small and useful, I also accept the idea behind the Meizu 17 where the punch hole is part of the battery indicator giving it some sort of a justification to exist, but all other modern Smartphone notch and punch hole are totally useless and an horrible idea...

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    Mike9625, 11 May 2020Price wise apple seems to be doing a really great job, desi... moreSame thinking here.. i hope Sony will make theyr 5 mark II ready for the same time. then i can choose, if to leave andoid.. or not

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      AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020That's not a notch, but I agree the idea is the closest pos... moreIf you're saying actual upper physical notch, It was Motorola.. Before your born including some(as no one don't know about that here in this comment section).

      It was the first notch phone ever recorded with a round look.. Doesn't matter how much Apple increase the shape they aren't who used notch at first.. Who cares about shape when the thing is already used before the first iPhone was introduced..

        “ The pricing is interesting too, the base iPhone 12 will starts at $650, that’s $50 less than the iPhone 11 (4G connectivity, LCD).”

        There is nothing interesting here! iPhone 11 is 6.1 inches vs iPhone 12 supposed to be 5.4 inches! Hence they dropped the price and most likely the iPhone 12 Max(or. Plus) will be in the unaffordable territory while lesser we talk about Pro & Pro Max, from pricing point of view is better for Apple!!

        With COVID-19 impact, no one outside USA excited about super expensive mobiles!

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          • 11 May 2020

          AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020That's not a notch, but I agree the idea is the closest pos... moreIf you're saying actual upper physical notch, It was Motorola.. Before your born including some(as no one don't know about that here in this comment section).

          It was the first notch phone ever recorded with a round look.. Doesn't matter how much Apple increase the shape they aren't who used notch at first.. Who cares about shape when the thing is already used before the first iPhone was introduced..

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            • 3iY
            • 11 May 2020

            iPhone 12 looks.. good, and compact and with smaller notch (than older iPhones), just put battery more than 2800mAh and good by Android phone(s).

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              • 11 May 2020

              LilPhone, 11 May 2020All OEMs, Apple and Samsung included, copies each other. ... moreI wonder if iPhone ever had navigation bar.. lol

                AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020Well, with brushed Titanium you have a shiny one, but with ... moreLooks nice. Need me one like that

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                  • 11 May 2020

                  AnonD-844967, 11 May 2020Want to look at titanium phones? Check Vertu in phones lis... moreThat's more about having the material that the most awesome machine have, like the SR-71, A12 and YF-12 are made off, or get engine blades, one of the most amazing metal, polished it have a mirror effect and brushed it have a beautiful metallic effect.
                  But more importantly, it is damn hard, you can't just break a Titanium back by accidentally dropping your phone, or they made it µm thin or you dropped it from an airplane...

                  I'd pay an extra 50¤ to have a Titanium Smartphone over a regular or glass one...
                  Vertu In isn't my style, I'd prefer Titanium.

                    Price wise apple seems to be doing a really great job, design side, this phone managed to be even more horrible than the previous model. Anyway if the resolution on the smallest one is at least Full HD, I can give it a try to Apple for the first time. I'm just tired of these phones going 6.7".

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                      PartTimePhoner, 11 May 2020Matte rear is better than shiny glass-like rear. Just like ... moreWell, with brushed Titanium you have a shiny one, but with brushed Titanium you can have a beautiful matte one.
                      https://www.gsmarena.com/limited_edition_gresso_regal_encases_android_42_in_titanium-news-10100.php
                      https://www.gsmarena.com/gresso_radical_black_edition_has_lowly_specs_and_high_price-news-8539.php

                      And you can't really have anything more premium than Titanium :D

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                        AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020When someone talk about thicker phone, peoples fear a brick... moreWant to look at titanium phones?
                        Check Vertu in phones list.
                        I know it's overpriced but imagine what will apple do if they implemented that.

                          It sounds pretty good except there's no expandable storage and the 512gb is 1400$ that's the same price as the base S20 ultra with expandable storage up to 1tb and considering the note 20+ would probably be cheaper than the S20 ultra by 100$ I think I'll get the note or fold 2

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                            • 11 May 2020

                            .alpha, 11 May 2020Sensor better be at least 1/1.7" and much better if 1/1.5" ... moreYeah but the going above 1/1.7" causes the problem amongst the top end phones which is fringing. Also hope it has dual pixel autofocus again because without that it would be a downgrade

                              AnonD-909757, 11 May 2020When someone talk about thicker phone, peoples fear a brick... moreMatte rear is better than shiny glass-like rear. Just like the matte black iphone 7

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                                • 11 May 2020

                                Thinking of switching from Android. Amazing that one company cover a huge variety of phones for every possible client, and 20 Chinese companies makes the same phone with different names

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                                  • 11 May 2020

                                  Do not have illusion new iphones will be same proce or cheaper than 11 series.
                                  All components apget more expensive.
                                  All the 5G modem and licensing to Qualcomm.

                                  Iphone " 12 Max" replaces 11. With base 128GB.
                                  Of course it will cost more than 128GB iphone 11.
                                  Dont expect it any less than $800.


                                    Instead of having good discussions related to the article we are having kids saying who copied who.

                                    Damn, when will these kids grow up.

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                                      • 11 May 2020

                                      Sensor better be at least 1/1.7" and much better if 1/1.5" - 1/1.3"

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                                        PartTimePhoner, 11 May 2020Honestly I agree. Make the phone thick but give me a bumple... moreWhen someone talk about thicker phone, peoples fear a brick, but a half an inch/1,5cm thick is more than reasonable and allow for better features !

                                        What about the back in Titanium ? :D
                                        What price of Titanium isn't that high, it wouldn't make the phone much more expensive (20 bucks ?) but ultra strong and have a beautiful shining and reflective finish that is almost as good as Glass :D