ARM's Cortex-A78 and Cortex-X1 will power the Androids of 2021

26 May 2020
Cortex-A78 brings a 20% performance boost or 50% higher efficiency, while the X1 is a super powerful core to rival the Apple A-series CPUs.

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  • Anonymous

Android Master, 27 May 2020Those views weren't subjective, they were simply facts. ... moreIt's not about color accuracy, noob.
It's about maintaining the color gamut while switching refresh rates or keeping black crush in control at low brightness. Every high refresh rate panel have this issue at different brightness levels.

  • Anonymous

Nick Tagataka, 27 May 2020I did put up a link to Anandtech and specifically told you ... moreLmao, these blind dudes that can't read, leave them.
True, nobody can match apple's soc power, also all mobile gamers and streamers use iphone Only.
Mysekf Not an isheep though and never owned an iphone.

  • Anonymous

vcihnecwe, 27 May 2020Unless the GPU and CPU is separate in mobile chipset, your ... moreNot only does that not make any sense or hold any ground... there was zero reason for it. I just made a simple factual point. You apparently are looking to argue something. More than likely having something against mali.

Anonymous, 27 May 2020I'm not the jack a whisperer. If you can't understand that ... morealrighty. Looks like you ain't have no proof on how he is biased.

If you really think anandtech is biased, show me a detailed comparison of this site vs. that site.

Android Master, 27 May 2020SD865 can barely match the graphic performance of A12 from ... moresnapdragon 865 is equally on par with a13. But that still makes apple superior because qualcomm takes 5 months to release the same chipset.

We cannot compare a gaming phone to an iPhone. iPhones have better day-to-day performance, but those gaming phones have cooling systems.

Android Master, 27 May 2020Those views weren't subjective, they were simply facts. ... moreiPad was the first mobile device to actually get 120hz. Or one of the first. Get your facts right, pal.

Android Master, 27 May 2020Those views weren't subjective, they were simply facts. ... moreWell views are inherently subjective.
I have rarely seen anyone complain about gaming performance on an iphone. Same for network performance. Gaming phones do have fast switching between networks and hence better network performance than other phones including flagships.
As far as multitasking is concerned, it is completely garbage on iphones but apps and games don't reload all the time.
And yes there were TVs, monitor and laptops with 120 Hz and higher before ipad but ipad was the first arm-based device to feature high refresh rate.

  • Anonymous

vcihnecwe, 27 May 2020Yeah, Exynos 990 faster than SD865... maybe for the first 1... moreGo to YouTube and check one plus 8 pro fortinte test the phone overheating within 10 minutes of playing the game @30fps since there’s no 60fps?!.

Impressive, Moore's law is still rocking. When will it slow down? Most improvements seems to be due to the better process node.

  • Anonymous

Wish to see this core on stb or at least on sbc

Anonymous, 27 May 2020Nope. SD 865 costs 80USD and 855 costs 70USD. Check BOM cos... moreI checked on many sites. Sd 845 was 45$, 855 53$, 855+ 60$ and 865 is 50% more expensive than 855+, which put price of more than 100$. I can give u sources if u want.

Annyms, 27 May 2020Well most of your claims are subjective but as far as chip ... moreThose views weren't subjective, they were simply facts.

Besides, IPad wasn't the first to bring 120hz. Lol get your facts right pal.

OP8 pro/Find X2 pro sporting the same display has the most color accurate display on the market.
Besides certain display issues only plagued OnePlus 8 pro devices not the Find X2 pro. Those issues have been subsequently fixed with updates. Any other issue is already down to a bad batch which happens with every smartphones.

hmm, 26 May 2020I dont understand this where it has 20% more power but runn... moreCortex A78 with 3.0Ghz and Cortex A77 with 2.6Ghz has the same energy consumption while having 20% more powerful... Are you confused why 3.0Ghz has the same energy consumption as 2.6Ghz? It is because Cortex A78 and Cortex A77 has different structures... Basically Cortex A78 has better structure than Cortex A77 which makes it more energy-efficient...

Anonymous, 27 May 2020However that's due to the lack luster set up of the exynos ... moreUnless the GPU and CPU is separate in mobile chipset, your argument still doesn't stand.

  • Anonymous

vcihnecwe, 27 May 2020Yeah, Exynos 990 faster than SD865... maybe for the first 1... moreHowever that's due to the lack luster set up of the exynos 990. Not because of the mali g77 gpu not being capable.

Anonymous, 26 May 2020By the way even the most powerful android gaming phone aka ... moreYeah, Exynos 990 faster than SD865... maybe for the first 1 minute before it throttle like hell.
Its well established that the 990 heat up, drain battery and throttle like crazy. If you fail to see that, I don't see how you should even read reviews...

  • SteveFOX

X1 is more likely to power some portable consoles and Windows ARM machines.
I doubt any manufacturer would produce an SoC just for tablets with X1, but 2 in 1 and ultrabooks will love that 8MB L3 cache on the X1.
A78 and G78 will bring 20% improvement in performance but most importantly much more power efficient and reduced die size too!
Next set of Exynos and Kirin chips coming this year might use A78 and G78 on 5nm.
Although, even if still A77 on 5nm should reach 3GHz no probs.

Android Master, 27 May 2020Is that the reason why Apple chips throttle after continuou... moreWell most of your claims are subjective but as far as chip is concerned, Apple was the first to put 120Hz display. Although that was an ipad pro with modified chip, that chip is now 4 generations old. Ipad pro also has resolution higher than QHD. Battery life wasn't affected either.
We might have a 120Hz iphone this year so let's see. Color accuracy is a concern on higher refresh rates and high resolution. We didn't see any problems in lcd screen(Razer phone apart from brightness) but oleds are giving problems. Only OP8 pro currently gives 120 Hz at QHD and it has multitude of screen related problems.
Anyway, this article is regarding SOC performance so as I said earlier iPhone is limited on other fronts but the SOC is extremely capable. I am waiting for WWDC to see iOS 14 as most of these limitations are software driven.

  • Anonymous

Alex 94, 27 May 2020Do u live on the same planet Earth like me? Sd 865 cost mor... moreNope. SD 865 costs 80USD and 855 costs 70USD. Check BOM cost analysis. And even than price difference doesn't come from CPU. CPU block is only a small part of whole SoC.

Anonymous, 27 May 2020And that link is only one scenario and still doesn't match ... moreThanks for answering, but that's one *controlled* scenario that is more valuable than those which are not, like some random "real-life" gaming comparisons on YouTube, for instance. And speaking of real-life comparison, many gaming-specific Android phones come with lower resolution FHD display with higher refresh rate panel which naturally boosts on-screen fps and pushes it beyond 60fps. I will chuck it out of our way because I'm solely talking about the raw GPU performance of each SoC.