Snapdragon 865+ unveiled with 10% CPU and GPU boost, Wi-Fi 6E support

07 July 2020
Two gaming phones have already picked the S865+ chipset - the Asus ROG Phone 3 and Lenovo Legion, both coming later this month.

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  • Anonymous
  • xq5
  • 08 Jul 2020

Snapdragon rules. Even affordable ones are already great.

    Apple's A13 was destroyed by midrange snapdragon 765 and old snapdragon 835.

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      • Anonymous
      • PE3
      • 08 Jul 2020

      Rk100, 08 Jul 2020Finally someone with some common sense People need to under... moreeveryone doing this . you dont understand silicon industry . With each batch of die improve the sustainable frequency increase with the improved quality of the waffle . You think only you figure out silicon manufacturer overclock the old silicon and rebrand it ?

        Great. People on this site have already thrown the 855 to the wolves. Give it a couple of months. Everyone is going to treat the 865 like it's some kind of MediaTek step child. If I have a 2016 BMW 7 series and you have 2020 BMW 7 series, is my car no longer a flagship? This is why Android will always have issues competing with Apple. It's a flagship processor or bust mentality in the android world.

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          • AnonD-893029
          • nG6
          • 08 Jul 2020

          Bigfan8611, 08 Jul 2020My man! Andrei has had nothing but praise for the Apple cor... moreAgreed, and very good point. People tend to forget that there is far more to an SOC than just cpu and gpu performance. Moden-RF quality for example, is an area where, honestly, the A13 and its associated Intel RF components are likely not just behind the current 865 (let alone the 865+) but probably the 855 too.

          It's no coincidence that Apple is once again partnering with Qualcomm in this regard. Rumour has it this just until Apple has their own in house solution ready to go, whether that will then be comparable with Qualcomm's best, we'll just have to wait and see

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            • AnonD-754814
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            • 08 Jul 2020

            Rk100, 08 Jul 2020"reliable motherboard that will allow you to play at l... moreOne can play 4k@60(except a few) games building the whole PC at 1000$. It's 2020.
            If you try hard enough you can find an RTX 2070 around 400$.
            But you have to forget about playing Ultra and High setting for some games.

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              • AnonD-754814
              • 6p}
              • 08 Jul 2020

              Rk100, 08 Jul 2020Thank you, someone with common sense.Thanks for appreciating.

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                • Anonymous
                • Dk$
                • 08 Jul 2020

                Rk100, 08 Jul 2020Then explain why most if not all games preform better on th... moreApple CPUs are not the "fastest" in the literal sense. 2.65 GHz vs 3.09 GHz! (prime core in 865+). They are more powerful. iPhones (not apple cpu) are faster. Correct me if I am wrong. No hate!

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                  • Rk100
                  • 6v0
                  • 08 Jul 2020

                  AnonD-754814, 08 Jul 2020People are so funny. Games in phones isn't like game... moreThank you, someone with common sense.

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                    • AnonD-754814
                    • 6p}
                    • 08 Jul 2020

                    People are so funny.
                    Games in phones isn't like games in PC.
                    You just can't compare between 2 different SoC and here people are arguing both with different SoC and OS.

                    Because Even with the Max setting the game renders differently for different SoC. And In iOS the game is written differently.

                    So, as iPhone is pretty graphics capable which everyone knows, possibly the game developers provided better graphics for iOS platform. That could be a reason iPhone devices not to hit over 60fps in PUBG(I also don't know if this claim is true).

                    What I'm saying is, mobile game developer optimize the game to run on different SoC differently.
                    So, with game FPS you shouldn't measure the performance.

                    To do comparison, you need to use benchmark which suggest to do cross platform because some benchmark might be written in advance Language which is different for iOS and Android. The benchmarks which are written in Machine language are cross comparable.

                    Phonebuff does a pretty well real world speed test. You guys can check his videos on youtube.
                    Gary's(AndroidAuthority) Speed Test G is also a good way to measure true performance.

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                      • AnonD-754814
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                      • 08 Jul 2020

                      AnonD-923722, 08 Jul 2020Can anyone tell me how much does a: 1. Sd 855+ cost? 2. S... moreSD 865 is around 150$,
                      SD 855 was around 100$. {Launched Price}

                      Plus versions usually cost the same of the base version's launched price.

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                        • Rk100
                        • 6v0
                        • 08 Jul 2020

                        Bigfan8611, 08 Jul 2020I think he said motherboard erroneously to refer to the who... moreApologies, gone off-topic but please explain to be about the 1000 euro motherboard just for 4k60. It makes so sense. Also he never mentioned the actual size.

                          Rk100, 08 Jul 2020"reliable motherboard that will allow you to play at l... moreI think he said motherboard erroneously to refer to the whole build. That being said, he also implies that current-gen consoles can play 4k60, which I don't believe is quite right.
                          Anyway, how is this related to the 865+?

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                            • Rk100
                            • 6v0
                            • 08 Jul 2020

                            ash99, 08 Jul 2020Qualcomm keeps on fooling customers with useless "incr... moreFinally someone with some common sense People need to understand that this is just a way for Qualcomm to make more money by putting Plus at the end of it SoC and only doing a very minor upgrade, only a simple overclock.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • YQ%
                              • 08 Jul 2020

                              Just don't compare smoothness, Speed, fluidity, between android and apple chips, all are almost same.
                              Just one thing gaming performance, and true Qualcomm chips still are somewhat behind apple.

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                                • Rk100
                                • 6v0
                                • 08 Jul 2020

                                MrPhong, 08 Jul 2020PS4 has a powerful GPU. A reliable motherboard that will al... more"reliable motherboard that will allow you to play at least 4K 60fps on modern games will cost $1000/€1000 above"
                                Sorry but have ever built a PC? Because if you are spending 1000 on a motherboard it better come with quantum computing. Some of the best motherboards at MOST cost about 350 euros, and that isn't even needed. The Gigabyte X570 AORUS ELITE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard cost 300 and it one of the best motherboards out there. I can't even find any motherboards that are around 1000. Please read before you post your comment. I was able to find many builds around 600 euros that are on par with a PS4, i'm not saying its bad but with a pc you don't need a RTX 2070 to get PS4 quality.

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                                  • ash99
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                                  • 08 Jul 2020

                                  Qualcomm keeps on fooling customers with useless "incremental upgrades" by overclocking chips. I bet an SD 835 performs just as well. C'mon. people don't game all day. And people are keeping their phones even ~5 years in some cases. QC should smell the coffee and realize people want phones which are 1. Reliable 2. Good call quality 3. Good cameras 4. Good internet connectivity. Most mid range phones satisfy these requirements.

                                  As far as Android is concerned, only the vanilla Mi 10 comes close to a flagship matching Apple. And only Xiaomi provides Android version updates for years and years. As for Samsung, the fact that the Galaxy A51 (not the S series) is the phone to achieve Android greatness speaks volumes about peoples' priorities.

                                    AnonD-893029, 08 Jul 2020Personally I'll wait for the likes of the folks over a... moreMy man! Andrei has had nothing but praise for the Apple core μarchitecture lately, I doubt a clock boost will let QC top the A13 single threaded. I'm more excited about the prospect of 6Ghz wifi, I don't expect Apple to have it on the A14. Can't wait to see how the routers perform with it

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                                      • AnonD-763241
                                      • uwJ
                                      • 08 Jul 2020

                                      MrPhong, 08 Jul 2020Provided the software optimisations and thermal management ... moreBro gpu performance is tested by offscreen tests bcaz that's the common benchmark for all phones...in that still a13 is on top by almost 33 frames....example
                                      A13 bionic- 120fps in gfx 3.1 Manhattan
                                      Snapdragon 865- 87 fps in gfx 3.1 Manhattan

                                      May be Snapdragon 865plus may hit 95 fps...
                                      I mentioned offscreen benchmarks because terms like screen refresh rate, optimization don't matter here...thats all I want to say...more idiots are here trolling simply without a point

                                        [deleted post]You see... It's obvious you have never had a gaming phone. I have a red magic in my hand... Right now... I had less than one page of apps... Stock android.