Caviar removes the cameras of the iPhone 12 Pro to make it Stealth

01 December 2020
Camera-free phones have been used in the past when privacy and security are of utmost importance.

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Anonymous, 01 Dec 2020Front Camera ruin the full display Rear cameras make the p... moreYup, that's why I am fighting for diversity, meaning having many designs available as opposed to nowaday where 95% of all phones have either a punch hole or a notch...

Having options for everyone mean as much having flagship like phone with no or a single main camera, a bezel or other options including no front facing camera, as much as middle range and lower range phones with all that.
Not everyone want or need a front facing camera, there is even justifications to make phones without them, same for the main cameras, some would want and have use of a big impressive 8 camera setup, other would be fine with a single top quality sensor, while other would be more than happy with a simple one or none at all.

Sadly most peoples can't understand that and will fight against any attempt at raising awareness about features or designs that doesn't match what already exist or what they themselves want, as if they needed the whole market to be what they want to just buy a single or a couple of model of a single series of a single brand.

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    GAMIRSFM, 01 Dec 2020So tell me, are you using a Android phone that has Google s... moreWhere do I have the choice ?
    This is the issue, there isn't, and we have to thanks people like you, who for some reason fight privacy or make it sound like privacy is a totally useless thing.

    I DO WANT a phone that have a no constantly looking front camera, either no front facing camera (Flip Up like Asus Zenfone 6, 7, 7Pro, Second display on the back like Nubia Z20, or just none, like this iPhone), or pop up, or slider.
    I DO WANT physical occulter on the main camera to both protect them and make them privacy friendly.
    I DO WANT a phone with microphone "ON/OFF/Push to talk" switch.
    I DO WANT a phone with GPS, Wi-Fi, Data and Gyros/accelerometers/compass killswitch.
    I DO WANT a phone with a deeper access to see what apps and the OS do and what data/packets are sent prior to encryption.
    I DO WANT that laws and rules are made so that privacy is seriously taken into consideration.

    There is just basically no options, and the reason is in big part because peoples say those things like you did about privacy, which make it look like there is no demand or even a negative demand.

    And privacy ISN'T something you have to defend/bring back all at once, the same way it was taken away slowly without initially intending to do so, it have to be done on ALL things independently, this mean fighting for the camera related from one side, for the OS related on the other side, etc.
    Having ANY little gain is already a big victory that should inspire to continue, what you do is killing those efforts.

      AnonD-909757, 01 Dec 2020You probably have not a single clue what lack of privacy re... moreSo tell me, are you using a Android phone that has Google services or an iPhone stock?
      Either way, you probally already got less privacy than you think.

        who cares. more news about phones for people with more money than brains

          What about microphones now?

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            • 01 Dec 2020

            Invest XD

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              AnonD-909757, 01 Dec 2020Beautiful ! Also I bet all the peoples saying that no phon... moreFront Camera ruin the full display
              Rear cameras make the phone heavy and much much more expensive with much much less soace for tremendous 5 cameras on the back, uf they removed them we can enjoy atleast 1000mah and muxh better cooling system.....
              For me one camera at the back is sufficient

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                GAMIRSFM, 01 Dec 2020Those who are way too worried about their privacy, they can... moreYou probably have not a single clue what lack of privacy really imply and can cause, that's often the case with peoples saying such things.
                If only the "I don't know what I am talking about, so I won't talk about it" rules could be more often followed by peoples, we would live in a better world.

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                  • 01 Dec 2020

                  Beautiful !
                  Also I bet all the peoples saying that no phone company would ever make a phone without front facing camera must feel idiot now, as Caviar clearly do it because there is demand AND they know peoples are even ready to pay a little fortune for that.

                    Those who are way too worried about their privacy, they can get these phones 👍

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                      • 01 Dec 2020

                      Is there a market for these over priced phones, Begin to wonder sometimes 😱

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                        • 01 Dec 2020

                        Yea...how have Caviar not gone under?