Samsung announces new 50MP ISOCELL GN2 camera sensor with Dual Pixel Pro

23 February 2021
The green pixels are split diagonally to receive information on the top and bottom of the pixel as well.

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sounds good! a 3:2 sensor could have been better!! we have seen a 1" sensor in a mobile phone also (Panasonic Lumix Smart Camera CM1), so this one is not the largest

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    Now they need to bring back their dual aperture lens, otherwise the plane of focus would be too narrow.

      Nick Tegrataker, 23 Feb 2021The effective resolutions of an image from 12MP Bayer senso... moreI would like to believe that. But when I saw the Vivo X50 Pro+ review on this site, I'm not sure if I would believe that. I personally found that the manually downscaled photo shows better detail than the pixel binned photo. It's the same story when I saw the Huawei Mate 40 Pro photos - the pixel-binned 12.5 MP produced less noise than the unbinned 50MP, even when manually downscaled to the same pixel binned resolution.

      The only time where I saw both pixel binned and native unbinned photo produce exactly the same photo quality is on Xiaomi phones. It really doesn't make any difference if I manually downscaled the unbinned photo, it just looks exactly the same as pixel binned photo.

        Rev-9, 23 Feb 2021you should read DPreview's A7S iii full review. you wi... moreThanks for the heads up, 8.7ms for reading out 8.3 million pixels is very impressive for such a massive sensor. With that said, as I already mentioned earlier, there are still too many variables to draw a conclusion that QB is inherently slower than a regular Bayer sensor by a significant degree. A fair, direct comparison would've been much easier if Sony or Samsung release two variants of the same sensor, but I guess there would be no point for them to do so when the QB variant obviously would be so much more versatile.

          YUKI93, 23 Feb 2021Funny you say that. 12MP is still the golden standard of to... moreThen why aren't we doing mega large pixels with regular bayer 12mp then?

          The bayer is taking advantage of the many pixels in the first place hence why 50mp is the sweet spot now


          Getting BINNED down to 12 is completely different than just straight up regular 12

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            Nick Tegrataker, 23 Feb 2021Do you have any official numbers from Sony that suggests th... moreyou should read DPreview's A7S iii full review. you will get to know everything from rolling shutter to sensor readout

              YUKI93, 23 Feb 2021Funny you say that. 12MP is still the golden standard of to... moreThen why aren't we doing mega large pixels with regular bayer 12mp then?

              The bayer is taking advantage of the many pixels in the first place hence why 50mp is the sweet spot now


              Getting BINNED down to 12 is completely different than just straight up regular 12

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                React 2 Gadgets YT, 23 Feb 2021100% sure it wouldn't happen. Since 108 Mp is easier t... moreall i can say is pretty much say is f**k the marketing and they really should just focus on the real s**t instead, instead of promoting a s****y 108mp camera with 9 to 1 pixel binning, how about they make it 4 to 1 instead, instead of these 12mp photos that are basically the same quality as the regular bayer sensors from iphone. they're just greedy af and basically theyre clowns, same as apple.

                  Rev-9, 23 Feb 2021i do know actually. ever heard about A7S iii 12MP full fram... moreDo you have any official numbers from Sony that suggests that A7S III's entire sensor area can be read out in less than 10ms? Not only that, we don't even know if those two sensors are built on the same generation technology. There are too many variables here, no direct comparison is possible.

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                    • 23 Feb 2021

                    Ice Universe claimed that GN2 will be used in Xiaomi Mi11 Ultra

                      React 2 Gadgets YT, 23 Feb 2021It has RYYB filter which takes in 40% more light. Which mea... moreIt takes in 40% more light PER EXPOSURE, and that's only for yellow pixels. Red and blue will be noisier unless you're in extreme low light due to the fact that the sensor needs to expose for more light sensitive yellow pixels which in turn reduces the light intake for red and blue pixels. Having to interpolate the value for green using yellow and red means it will be never as colour accurate as a comparably sized RGB sensor, too.

                      The sensor isn't capable of shooting photos at ISO 409600, by the way. Fixing the shutter speed at 1/4s, the exposure of ISO 6400 shots and ISO 204800 shots from my P30 are pretty much the same, though the latter is visibly less noisy and more detailed because Huawei activates a auto "night mode" which shoots lots of frames in burst and combine them together to reduce noise. The crazy-high number you're seeing is just an extended, or simulated ISO, not a max ISO that is supported by the sensor.

                      Finally, your calculation for the pixel pitch is completely off.

                        React 2 Gadgets YT, 23 Feb 2021Xiaomi MIUI, not to mentiom even entry level phones from Xi... moreDon't confuse between UI and OS. Some Xiaomi phones may receive the latest version of MIUI, but the Android version still remains the same.

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                          aquinoes, 23 Feb 2021This is the way. Almost there: 1" sensors are so close... more"...this sizes plus the computational gains have buried m43 to oblivion"

                          I definitely wouldn't buy into this kind of belief. Computational software is not everything. The M43 can still beat software-focused smartphones when you give an M43 camera a lens with well-built glass optics. You have to remember that there are certain components that software cannot change. Sensors and optics are built as hardware in the first place - if you don't build it right, it won't produce a great photo.

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                            Nick Tegrataker, 23 Feb 2021The problem with this argument is that those "low reso... morei do know actually. ever heard about A7S iii 12MP full frame sensor? which is way bigger than any smartphone camera sensor, but is faster than the fastest readout smartphone camera sensor (IMX 557). so your point: larger area sensors = slower readout, is not valid

                              YUKI93, 23 Feb 2021Not only that, but pixel binning with a modified Bayer colo... moreThe effective resolutions of an image from 12MP Bayer sensor and that from 48MP QB sensor are essentially identical. No detail will be lost during binning process.

                                Nick Tegrataker, 23 Feb 2021Huh? How could IMX700y be any better than GN2 when it'... moreIt has RYYB filter which takes in 40% more light. Which means actually an 3.36 micron sized RGGB filter. And also, GN2 has max ISO of 6400. While IMX 700y has maximum ISO of 409600

                                  YUKI93, 23 Feb 2021It used to be only Google and OnePlus's work. Only rec... moreXiaomi MIUI, not to mentiom even entry level phones from Xiaomi gets 3 years of updates, but the update is slow.

                                    Rev-9, 23 Feb 202150MP is not a sweet spot by any mean that is why pixel binn... moreThe problem with this argument is that those "low resolution sensors" also have substantially smaller area than highest end QB/Tetracell sensors, which in turn allows for faster sensor scanning speed. Unless somebody makes two equally sized sensors with the same native resolution but one with QB and the other one without QB (i.e. a 12MP Bayer sensor and a 48MP QB sensor) and do a side-by-side comparison, you will never know how much effect QB structure has in the actual readout speed.

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                                      • 23 Feb 2021

                                      Finally a sensor as big as micro forth thirds,if i am wrong plz tell mr whats mft sensor size in inches,i think around 0.8 inches

                                        Anonymous, 23 Feb 2021i'm now wondering if they are gonna put this on the no... more100% sure it wouldn't happen. Since 108 Mp is easier to market than an only "50 Mp". And many average consumers will consider it am downgrade. Though i hope they do it. As even the second gen 108 Mp is bad in lowlight compared to the Iphone 12 Pro Max smaller 12 MP sensor

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