Apple iPhone 13 to feature FaceID chip twice as small as the one on iPhone 12 series

15 May 2021
The smaller image processing chip is the key to the slimmer notch.

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  • 15 May 2021

Most company these days first create some problems in their products if there aren't any, then they give its solution like removal of headphone jack. Then its solution wow wireless earphones which are basically 10x times in cost of that of 3.5 mm supported earphones and are non repairable also they remove it by saying that we are removing it for the betterment of environment but you have to now buy separate earphone with bluetooth and with extrapackging so you end up creating more waste but again since they work on battery which is basically a degrading on its own and since they are basically irreparable they can't be repaired once their battery dies. So in the end you end up creating more waste and e waste which you wouldn't have if company hadn't removed headphone jack in the name of space if only they would have just removed the earphone only in the packaging then it would have been better for the environment. It is basically puts user in predicament since he thinks he is doing better for the environment but unknowingly he end doing the opposite. This thought is not directed towards all companies (not any particular) who in the name of innovation ends up creating something which is not good for environment in long run but basically it is good for company in short run

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    • 15 May 2021

    Anonymous, 15 May 2021You prefer a large black rectangular cutout than a small pu... moreI prefer something functional, that I'll often use, that serve a TRUE purpose, over something that shouldn't exist at all.

    With a notch on Android I could still use a rooted app to display a second notification/status bar, so it doesn't kill notification & status icon spaces and still has a useful value as protection.
    While the punch hole still take valuable space but doesn't justify to add another bar and exist only for a camera that could easily be removed in favor of a second display on the back.

    What I prefer is a phone with NO dead pixels at all, and all 3D face recognition sensors on the back that also serve for photography scanning, but since everytime someone want a phone with no front camera, people are FORCED to complain about it, it never appeared, so I have to do with what is available.

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      • AnonD-909757
      • pZV
      • 15 May 2021

      Anonymous, 15 May 2021People without hands can unlock the phone with their toes. ... moreSure, someone who has burnt fingertips will use his toes to unlock his phone, same with someone who know for fact his fingerprint are EASY to get (some jobs result in your fingerprint being easy to collect).
      If you are forced to take an example up top personal level, it doesn't mean I have to, it was an EXAMPLE, try finding a SINGLE alternative example where I can put 2D or 3D face unlock in a less convenient situation for comparison and comeback complaining that I like something.

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        • Anonymous
        • p%B
        • 15 May 2021

        Anonymous, 15 May 2021Because all the phones with a fingerprint scanner totally g... moreLet's be serious, if all the Android phones had notches and iPhones had punch holes, the haters would have said punch holes are bad.
        Bottom line, the problem is not necessarily the notch, is Apple.

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          • 15 May 2021

          Moto, 15 May 2021You missed the point. The point was that no ones needs 3D f... moreIf I there was a Poco F2 Pro 3D with 3D face recognition I would have taking it without hesitations over the regular one, I want secure unlock, 2D unclock is for convenient but is absolutely not secure at all.
          I am advocating to in fact push 3D face recognition further by adding dynamic structured light + UV, NOT for making it dump.
          The same some say that Apple users don't have the choice is also true for Android, the total lack of phones with 3D face recognition (and I DON'T count ToF) mean that it isn't because some use the convenience of the 2D face unlock that they wouldn't want the more secure 3D version.

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            • Anonymous
            • P$s
            • 15 May 2021

            AnonD-909757, 15 May 2021I'd take a notch with 3D face recognition over the use... moreYou prefer a large black rectangular cutout than a small punch hole?

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              • Anonymous
              • P$s
              • 15 May 2021

              AnonD-909757, 15 May 2021YOU don't need it. There are people without fingers/f... morePeople without hands can unlock the phone with their toes. You don't need to go to such lengths to remind us of your strange affection for the pop up camera.

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                • 15 May 2021

                AnonD-909757, 15 May 2021YOU don't need it. There are people without fingers/f... moreYou missed the point. The point was that no ones needs 3D face uinlock, which is what apples uses in their massive iphone nothces.

                Your Poco, and any other phone with a selfie cam, is perfectly capable of performing face unlock without a massive notch.
                Hole punches, teardrop notches and pop-up or slide-up cameras are all capable of face unlock, for thos who prefer it over fingerprint, pattern, PIN or password unlock.

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                  • 15 May 2021

                  Jayrod86, 15 May 2021The notch needs to go period the smaller one still looks re... moreSame thing for the punch hole.

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                    • 15 May 2021

                    Anonymous, 15 May 2021We don't need 3d face Id. We have a working fingerpri... moreYOU don't need it.
                    There are people without fingers/fingerprints, I've yet to see someone without a face.
                    And there is this thing called preferences, not everyone has the same tastes as you, I am gladly using the pop up camera of my brand new Poco F2 Pro for face unlock and find it more comfortable to use even with the delay and having to swipe up than using the fingerprint.

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                      • Anonymous
                      • mv2
                      • 15 May 2021

                      AnonD-909757, 15 May 2021I'd take a notch with 3D face recognition over the use... moreDamn right, the notch is here to stay.

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                        • pZV
                        • 15 May 2021

                        I'd take a notch with 3D face recognition over the useless punch hole any day!
                        At least the dent on the display is justified for something more important than the useless front camera.

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                          • Anonymous
                          • puk
                          • 15 May 2021

                          afronoia, 15 May 2021It`s an intrusion *because* it's not blacked out. If b... moreWhile that would be nice as an option, I'll give you that, it would create a massive black forehead. And frankly, looking at my phone, having so much black on top would ruin the balance and it would look and feel far worse than just a smaller black notch with visible "horns".

                            Anonymous, 15 May 2021Why would you hide it and move signal and battery icons int... moreIt`s an intrusion *because* it's not blacked out. If both 'horns' are blacked out *but* still shows time and battery icons in white color, then it's an extension. Wouldn't be hard for Apple to change that.

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                              • Anonymous
                              • j2h
                              • 15 May 2021

                              You know what is less obtrusive than a smaller face ID module and works while wearing a facemask? An under display, rear mounted, or side mounted fingerprint reader.

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                                • Anonymous
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                                • 15 May 2021

                                [deleted post]what has Terraforming got to do with smartphones ?

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 15 May 2021

                                  Anonymous, 15 May 2021Covering half of the face prevents it from being accurate a... moreBut if 3d face scanning is so great then it should detect with mask on.
                                  Apple's Ai algorithm weak.

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                                    • Anonymous
                                    • puk
                                    • 15 May 2021

                                    Anonymous, 15 May 2021Fingerprint scanner just works unlike your half baked 3d fa... moreCovering half of the face prevents it from being accurate and secure? Try cutting half of your finger off and tell me how great is your fingerprint scanner? Oh, it won't unlock anymore? Jesus, the lengths you people go to cluelessly bash Apple is just astounding.

                                    And if Apple just made it accept even half the face you'd all be raving how inaccurate and insecure it is. How sad and miserable human being you have to be to constantly make s**t up to complain over some brand?

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                                      • Anonymous
                                      • mv2
                                      • 15 May 2021

                                      So, 15 May 2021So poco f1 no notch ah?! Physics cannot be avoidedPhysics is awesome!

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                                        • Anonymous
                                        • 0w6
                                        • 15 May 2021

                                        Hmm revolution :D small but ugly big. Rly old design..