Oppo unveils 85-200mm continuous zoom lens, RGBW sensor for smartphones

19 August 2021
As well as a new RGBW sensor and improved algorithm for next-gen under display cameras.

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heist , 19 Aug 2021Sony set trend While that is true for modern smartphones of today, Sony's periscope camera only locks at two different focal length. Maybe Oppo will offer variable focal length from that periscope lens. But tbh, this whole idea is not new since ASUS has already done it with the Zenfone Zoom all the way back in 2015.

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    FarFan, 19 Aug 2021Yeah, and both of them have more than one camera module, wh... moreQuestioning me back when u've said before cannot accept 163mm high phone? My point is u're contradicting with yourself. 🤷

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      Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021It is possible that Apple is already using different RGBW s... moreThough as far as I know, techinsights examined the sensors. So I guess one would know it if Apple used RGBW sensors.

        Shui8, 19 Aug 2021Good. Keep it that way until the next 10 years, as long as ... moreYeah, and both of them have more than one camera module, what is your point?
        I liked them for new tech implementations, unlike Honor.

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          Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021It is possible that Apple is already using different RGBW s... moreHuawei already use the RGBW camera in P8 - https://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_p8-review-1263p8.php

          They ditch it starting P9 as got monochrome sensor.

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            • 19 Aug 2021

            It is possible that Apple is already using different RGBW sensors.
            -There was a rumor that the iPhone 6s uses an RGBW sensor.
            -when the iPhone X was released, Apple said that the sensor captures 83% more light, but the sensor area and f-number were identical.
            -Apple uses different camera sensors than other manufacturers: For example the iPhone 12 Pro Max sensor has a pixel size of 1.7 micrometer. The iPhone Xs used a very common sensor size (24mm²), but without dual pixel autofocus although every competitor with a 24mm² sensor had dual pixel autofocus

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              FarFan, 19 Aug 2021And that's the way I do. But there is nothing I woul... moreGood. Keep it that way until the next 10 years, as long as u happy. Just that its funny you listed Xperia 1iii & Mi Mix 4 as your favourites phone in your profile when u've been complaining about 163mm high on Honor phone 🤭

                Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021To tell how much space it needs zoom system. This is why ... moreI hope that tech is advancing over time, and there are already phones that fit 1 inch sensor. So, perhaps, companies should improve tech around 1 perfect matrix, instead of adding one more camera yearly...

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                  • 19 Aug 2021

                  RGBW sounds like it will have crazy color noise due to only half the color data, but good luma detail. The extra detail may be good for 2x crop i guess. But not sure if the loss of color information makes it worth. Color/chroma noise is much more annoying and unpleasant than luma noise, so denosing will kill a lot of detail

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                    • 19 Aug 2021

                    Looks like Samsung is gonna bet on same system used by 21U for 22U.

                    0.5, 1.0, 4.0 and 10.
                    Probably change the 10MP 1/3.2" for a 12MP 1/2.9".

                      Nick Tegrataker, 19 Aug 2021It's "dual" focal length zoom - fixed at eit... moreOh ok I misunderstood

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                        yalim, 19 Aug 2021Sony managed 2-step zoom, oppo is taking one step further a... moreIf you compared photo taken near object (like 2m away) then compared to photo taken 12m away with digital zoom, you can see quality it is not same.

                        Brands just fool people, like when they call fixed focal length as optical zoom. Even worse when this marketing comes from Samsung and Sony (former and current 📷 makers).

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                          FarFan, 19 Aug 2021Oh lol, and you carry camera turned On in your pocket? I do... moreTo tell how much space it needs zoom system.
                          This is why phones have multicam setup instead of single camera with optical zoom.

                          Largest sensor used so far for periscope is 1/2".
                          Both are fixed and less than 130mm.
                          Impossible inside phone to use same sensor of main camera, while having for example 15-250mm.

                            Shui8, 19 Aug 2021Go on then. Just buy a 2016 phone along with small digital ... moreAnd that's the way I do.
                            But there is nothing I would like change for. New phones are giving me trypophobia, and are too heavy to carry them in pocket.

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                              FarFan, 19 Aug 2021Camera is lighter, so it will be easier to take it around t... moreGo on then. Just buy a 2016 phone along with small digital camera, put it in your both pocket & call it a day. No one forcing you to buy this all in one smartphone.

                              Its your money anyway.

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                                • 19 Aug 2021

                                Sony managed 2-step zoom, oppo is taking one step further and working on variable zoom.maybe in 3 years, variable zooms will be standard in flagships. In addition,using lossless variable digital zoom is the best way upto 3x like on s21.

                                  Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021This thickness is when camera is off. Now you turn it on ... moreOh lol, and you carry camera turned On in your pocket? I don't!
                                  Or what is your point about 46mm?

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                                    Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021Between 80 and 200mm. Depends on how many values they dec... moreThis is supposedly a new ultra thin lens technology going to debut in 2024.

                                    Perhaps with that for that tech every 5mm they could do, but for now the value could be large

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                                      Anonymous, 19 Aug 2021is this true variable continuous room can I stop in between... moreBetween 80 and 200mm.
                                      Depends on how many values they decide to offer.
                                      Limited space is huge factor for periscope tech.
                                      We do not know if it is gonna work every 5, 10 , 12 , 20 or 40mm.

                                      My cybershot works every 2,5mm.
                                      But is way easier to make this with regular camera.

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                                        FarFan, 19 Aug 2021Canon PowerShot SX620 - 96.9 x 56.9 x 27.9 mm, 182 g (23% l... moreThis thickness is when camera is off.
                                        Now you turn it on and zoom system comes out.

                                        I have Sony W830 (25-200mm)

                                        - 17mm thick
                                        - 5mm cam bump (camera off )
                                        - zoom system 24mm long (not counting bump)

                                        When camera is on, it has 46mm thickness

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