Samsung Galaxy Z Fold4 and Z Flip4 details leak

18 November 2021
Both foldables will be improved next year.

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  • Mr. Jekyll
  • nt8
  • 16 Apr 2022

flagshipper, 26 Jan 2022what to expect for zflip 4: - better battery? no need, bat... moreI agree with you on most of your bullet points on your list regarding Samsung Flip. Not on your comment on DEX, though. DEX allows me to carry my slidesshows / presentations around and present them at meeting without having to carry a PC from meeting to meeting or a USB stick which almost always clashes with local security policies... DEX is not relevant for gaming etc. - DEX is for professional use in situations where you want to "travel light". One might argue "why don't you just buy the Fold, then". Well, because the Samsung Fold is HUGE. The good thing about DEX is that it allows you to "travel light" and carry an "almost PC". The fold is, as was the Nokia communicator, a great misunderstanding. As a businessman I don't want to carry a huge phone and look like an engineer from the 80/90'ties. Seen from my perspective the fold is for gamers and people who want to watch TV series on their phones. DEX does have other use cases for the traveling business man: When I am at my hotel room in the evening I can connect it to the TV in the room and do regular office work (connection af mouse and a keyboard of cause) via citrix connection to my office computer. Having finshed work I can login in on my favourite streaming service or News provider and relax watching TV fullscreen. Again one might argue: "Buy the Samsung Fold" - again I must remind the opponent, that the point of DEX is to travel light - with a fold you're not traveling light....

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    • Osiris
    • JhV
    • 08 Apr 2022

    skanderworld, 27 Mar 2022Still no MicroSD? Huawei is adding their proprietary memory... moreLol this isn't 2015. bro, you have very big memory inside the phone, no need for faulty sd cards

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      • Anonymous
      • XBJ
      • 05 Apr 2022

      SR, 24 Mar 2022Any idea about Launch Date?no sir
      thanks for your sporting

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        • skanderworld
        • Y6r
        • 27 Mar 2022

        Still no MicroSD? Huawei is adding their proprietary memory card to their flagships while Samsung is removing them. Going backwards.

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          • R3I
          • 26 Mar 2022

          Imagine the price...

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            • SR
            • vGv
            • 24 Mar 2022

            Any idea about Launch Date?

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              • Anonymous
              • 86i
              • 14 Mar 2022

              I hardly wait for Fold4, because compared with Fold3, 4 is greater than 3, so I have to buy it.

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                • Anonymous
                • 3pt
                • 13 Feb 2022

                FlipLife, 28 Jan 2022I love my Flip 3. Kept my iPhone 13 pro max as side phone. ... moreWho asked

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                  • FlipLife
                  • vCL
                  • 28 Jan 2022

                  I love my Flip 3. Kept my iPhone 13 pro max as side phone. Only thing I would like to see is faster charging. Battery life easily lasts all day with moderate use. (Text, calls, internet emails etc,) but it does go down with intense gaming. To be honest fast charging would be enough for me.

                    what to expect for zflip 4:
                    - better battery? no need, battery is great already
                    - faster charging.. YEAH, it's shocking that despite 2 batteries there's no parallel charging.. omg, how could they even release such low specs 15w, 9w wireless?
                    - crease? is fine, love to touch it..tho in dark it's too noticable
                    - SPEN? small spen would be fine
                    - camera under display?? YES please, remove those disgusting punchholes already!! wating for 4 seasons already for this madness to stop.. or remove selfie completely. Screw the front camera.
                    - USB3/Dex.. well to be honest, noone is using Dex so it's not an issue.. i thought it is.. but it's not.

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                      • Lucian
                      • nDU
                      • 20 Jan 2022

                      I need a flip but with an external display like the Motorola Razr 5G. Unfortunately I am returning my Razr, it’s an alright sexy stove. It also screeches to replace a decent speaker. I love Motorola and not a fan of Samsung at all, but I will buy a Flip once I can answer to texts on the external display. Even with weaker processors they usually sell in my area, I would still get Samsung. I didn’t know HOW important were stereo speakers, wireless charging and …well… a good camera AND TO NOT BURN lmao

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                        • gogo
                        • 0@7
                        • 12 Jan 2022

                        Dr Jones, 29 Nov 2021Samsung needs to add DEX support to the FLIP4. DEX is a maj... moreMy thought exactly

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                          • Anonymous
                          • dMB
                          • 02 Jan 2022

                          Design wise, i would consider the hinge crease as the deal-breaker for now for a lot of people, but personally, i think Samsung could change the form factor a little bit, making the phone wider, giving the space to a 300 mAh battery increase, with a a better night mode, and a pricing at 800$ level, would make them a million of sales numbers

                            Dr Jones, 29 Nov 2021Samsung needs to add DEX support to the FLIP4. DEX is a maj... moreI agree, DeX is an amazing feature and the fact that the Z Flip 3 don't have it is a missed opportunity, especially considering the size of this thing, is kind of crazy thinking that it could be a computer.

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                              • Dr Jones
                              • 8ke
                              • 29 Nov 2021

                              Samsung needs to add DEX support to the FLIP4. DEX is a major selling point for me. With its small form factor the phone would be the ideal phone for someone who doesn't want to have a huge bulge in their business suits, but still wants the option to have a computer like experience when they arrive at the conference hotelroom. Thats how I use my 10e. I would never go for a fold - it is size ridiculous. Even though it is big, it's still not good for serious typing. With a wireless keyboard, a USB C/hdmi cable and a mouse in my suitcase I get the best of all worlds. I could do the same with a flip - if only it had DEX ...

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                                • AnonD-909757
                                • pZV
                                • 23 Nov 2021

                                Ker-Man, 23 Nov 2021... Aaand, your point is... What? That UDC is an awful tech that will prevent better ones from getting released, because people are obsessed with it.
                                And we should have MULTIPLE available options, not being stuck with a single one.

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                                  • Ker-Man
                                  • IrW
                                  • 23 Nov 2021

                                  AnonD-909757, 21 Nov 2021Just think for a second. It doesn't make any senses t... more... Aaand, your point is... What?

                                    Shane1, 22 Nov 2021Love my flip 3 however they charging speeds and battery lif... moreTotally agree, Shane! Love my Flip 3 but hate the battery life and slow (15W) charging. It's an otherwise, great phone that I would recommend to anyone who wants to get away from a traditional form factor. The Fold is too big and expensive... this is all you need.

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                                      • Shane1
                                      • IbG
                                      • 22 Nov 2021

                                      Love my flip 3 however they charging speeds and battery life need improvement majorly. Seriously that is my only complaint about this phone as an ex district manager who sold phones.

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                                        • AnonD-909757
                                        • pZV
                                        • 21 Nov 2021

                                        joe nodden, 21 Nov 2021So you're arguing that we shouldn't have a front ... moreJust think for a second.
                                        It doesn't make any senses to do it with anything else than UDC.
                                        Remove the UDC and you are left with a fulldisplay, exactly what you'd get if there was a phone with no front camera.

                                        Notch and punch holes ? You gain the privacy advantage, but you still have the display intrusion.
                                        Bezel ? You can just cover the camera for privacy (no need to remove it), won't give you a fullscreen display, and they are rare anyway.

                                        Except pop-up, flip up and sliders who are even rarer, there is absolutely no other way to get a phone with no front camera and a fulldisplay.
                                        So yes, I still stand for what I said, the only advantage those things have, is that those who aren't afraid to break the phone can remove the camera and get a true fullscreen while also having privacy.

                                        Once again, I've already said it so many times, but here we go again :
                                        Every single other market in the planet DO cover niches, there are even brands specialized into niches, in facts there are brands who even do niche's niches products that not a lot have the experience, will, space, money, time, etc to buy, setup and/or use.
                                        The smartphone market is the ONLY ONE that doesn't cover any kind of niches, and to an extreme, to the point where fricking toothbrushes and nail clippers have much more diversity and choices for all types of users than Smartphone.
                                        While smartphone, thanks to a huge potential number of combination of features, designs and options, is one of the market that has one of the greatest potential for diversity.
                                        And this IS the issue, we SHOULD have other things than the same design again and again.