Samsung Galaxy Z Fold4 and Z Flip4 details leak

18 November 2021
Both foldables will be improved next year.

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AnonD-909757, 19 Nov 2021Well, just think about how I said that the only good thing ... moreSo you're arguing that we shouldn't have a front camera. Okay. Make that clear. Don't say, "the only good thing about underdisplay camera would be to remove the camera", because not having a front camera has nothing to do with under-display cameras.

I would understand that kind of nonsensible wording if you were speaking, but you typed that out. There's no excuse for something you have an infinite amount of time to correct.

Still, I agree, I would buy a phone with no front camera if I could. Selfies are useless and people can look at their reflection to see if their face is a mess or something. The issue is that the market for logical people is a niche one. People will look at a phone with no front camera and think of it as a flaw regardless of how much more sensible it is.

    SpiritWolf, 19 Nov 2021Then you must to learn to comprehend what are you reading. ... moreNo it very clearly made little sense.

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      • Anonymous
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      • 21 Nov 2021

      SA466, 19 Nov 2021What features of the Z Fold 3 would you sacrifice to meet a... moreMid range soc(like snapdragon 700 series) Mid range cameras(like galaxy a52s wide and ultrawide cameras), 6gb ram, 128gb storage, main display 60hz and no need for water protection.

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        • 21 Nov 2021

        sa11oum, 21 Nov 2021The Z Fold should be folding the other way... make it so th... moreHuawei did that and consumer reception was negative. It's true that folding it the other way provides better aspect ratio, but you and I are in the minority. Majority of consumers have spoken. Majority of buyers prefer the cool factor of folding a screen to 1mm radius over practical screen ratio.

          The Z Fold should be folding the other way... make it so that when you fold it it's shorter and wider. I don't understand why Samsung haven't done it that way, it would make the outer screen a better aspect ratio and it would look more like a normal smartphone when it's folded. and when it's opened up nothing would change!

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            • 20 Nov 2021

            SpiritWolf, 20 Nov 2021Was easy to me. Remove under display spy cam and voila!, no... moreYeah, but I think the confusion did come from how it sounded kinda like a compliment to underdisplay camera.
            But yeah, that's what I meant, more precisely, I wanted to convey something in the form of:
            "If no new phones with pop up/no front camera get released, at the time I'll need to change my phone, I'll take one with a UDC and simply remove the camera, but it will not mean that I like the tech."

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              • Anonymous
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              • 20 Nov 2021

              I'm still waiting for anyone to make a foldable screen smartphone with a 21:9 outer cover screen and a 1:1 inner main screen. Huawei nearly got the formula right with the Mate X2. I'm not impressed with the Galaxy Z Fold's cover screen at all because of app scaling issues.

                AnonD-909757, 19 Nov 2021To be fair, I have autism (atypical), which, as usual for a... moreWas easy to me. Remove under display spy cam and voila!, no spy cam and enjoy screen without punch hole . Easy. :-)

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                  • Anonymous
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                  • 20 Nov 2021

                  AverageIndianUser, 20 Nov 2021I think the only improvement that can convince people to sw... moreSpot on!

                    I think the only improvement that can convince people to switch from fold 3 to fold 4 is either or all of the three: in built Spen, bigger batteries, solving the crease.

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                      Scram, 18 Nov 2021Samsung will not solve all of the Fold letdowns in one gene... moreYou spoke my mind.

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                        • 19 Nov 2021

                        i0S.- Never.- Again, 19 Nov 2021Thickness is not a problem. Samsung can easily fit in larg... moreSure they can break physics, unlike any competition. We all know that is how science works.
                        Here's a reality check. All competitors cancelled their 2021 foldables launches after they saw the Fold3 and Flip3. They didn't cancel them because they knew their alternatives were better. I mean, that is pretty unprecedented in tech that one manufacturer's launch is so far ahead of what the competitors are able to do that they just give up and fold. (pun!)

                          AnonD-762416, 19 Nov 2021The reason is the obvious portability. The thickness when f... moreThickness is not a problem.
                          Samsung can easily fit in larger thinner batteries.
                          Batteries come in all different types of thickness, shape and size.

                          I don't know about the Z flip since it has tiny footprint but the Z Fold series should be getting a bigger battery. It's not even up for debate.

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                            Anonymous, 19 Nov 2021I just want mid range big foldable with decent specs and pr... moreWhat features of the Z Fold 3 would you sacrifice to meet a 1000$ pricepoint? I feel like the Z Fold 3 was already trying hard to push the price down.

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                              SpiritWolf, 19 Nov 2021Then you must to learn to comprehend what are you reading. ... moreTo be fair, I have autism (atypical), which, as usual for autistic people, comes with social struggles and dyslexia.
                              So it isn't surprising if I end up saying things that not everyone understand.

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                                • 19 Nov 2021

                                I had them all Samsung foldables with the external screen so narrow it is not usable decently.

                                So I hope the fold4 will got a largest external display

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                                  • Anonymous
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                                  • 19 Nov 2021

                                  I just want mid range big foldable with decent specs and price of 1000 dollars.

                                  They could call it Galaxy z fold 4 lite.

                                  Well my og galaxy fold still going to get android 12 and security updates to almost end of 2023 so no rush but because Samsung is providing decent updates i would like to buy another Samsung foldable if the price is around 1000 dollars.

                                  I am sure if Samsung is not going to do it some other company will make comparable mid range big foldable for around 1000 dollars 2022-2023.

                                    "The Flip4 will also get improved water and dust resistance, and the same battery capacity and external display size as the Flip3."

                                    Not much of an upgrade if same battery capacity and external display size because those are the areas it can improve.

                                      joe nodden, 19 Nov 2021Lemme make myself clear. I hate punch holes, I hate the way... moreThen you must to learn to comprehend what are you reading. His comment makes perfect sense to me.

                                        excited that there is dust resistance (or at least improved dust resistance). Now Samsung just needs to make their phone when folded like a Mate X2 (a proper phone aspect ratio or whatever its called), add the s pen in the body, and please please please may christ give them the brains to implement their 45W charging with a bigger battery.

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