Sony IMX800 detailed: 1/1.49" sensor with 54MP resolution
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- 31 May 2022
Mike indeed, 31 May 2022All that just for Google to drop a Pixel with 5 MP Camera a... moreOil painting with artificial sharpening doesn't even require 5MP :3
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you have to suffer, 31 May 2022samsung fanboys***Why you mention "samsung" ?
Aaahh i know.. you admit samsung innovates much more than sony.
Yeah indeed.. because samsung is richer than sony.
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IpsDisplay, 31 May 2022I'll repeat again hopefully I gets in your head
All... moreStacking images can only do so much to aid the great disadvantage of smartphone cameras' significantly smaller sensor sizes in comparison to proper digital mirrorless cameras today. The stacking mechanism is not ideal for fast-moving subjects, or even standard scenes in general, where many possible movements could occur. Plus, the artificial enhancements done by AI is not helping to make the images better as well. Smartphone images that used multi-frame image stacking looked super artificial, as if they were heavily processed in photoshop already upon capturing. This is why I still see Sony's image processing on their Xperias to be some of the best in terms of finding a perfect balance between modern computational imaging and the classic natural processing of proper cameras, because they do also use multi-frame image stacking for HDR shots, but also ensures that the end results are looking as close to natural as possible, hence, no oil painting-like appearance on the images.
I bet that once you begin exploring the current competition in the full-frame mirrorless camera world today (among Canon's EOS R3, Nikon's Z9, and Sony's Alpha 1), then you'd never look at smartphone images the same way again, and any smartphone images taken using computational imaging will not be as impressive to you as they were before.
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Anonymous, 31 May 20221) it is pointless when it is not bayer 2) also, not ev... moreYou sorely underestimate the capability of machine learning with regard to imaging. Are you aware that machine learning already grants limited capability of seeing behind walls just by analyzing diffuse reflections cast from the object behind the wall? There already are algorithms that could counter diffraction, a microscope for example that sees beyond the diffraction limit providing many times the resolution of similar hardware without machine learning. More low quality data points definitely help with image quality compared to few higher quality data points when it comes to stacking, fed to the appropriate algorithm of course.
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Anonymous, 31 May 20221) it is pointless when it is not bayer
2) also, not ev... moreYou are taking about physical lenses while ignoring who computational photography works
This isn't a DSLR , smartphones literally creates images of what was NOT taken
So under this context those physical limitations mean less and less
Overexposed , under exposed , poorly forced etc all are combined into one
What the lens took is not the final product
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Anonymous, 31 May 2022Ignore this person. Same old speech that newer is always be... moreYou don't know what your talking about diffraction..
Computational photography stacks multiple images included the bad one
Essentially making fake photos That people like we should be ignoring you
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Anonymous, 31 May 2022So you are knowledgable about high mp sensors ? or you just... moreI'll repeat again hopefully I gets in your head
All progress for computational power... Heavily points toward stacking images and taking advantage of excess data
NOT on the basis of physical pixel size
So the logic is simple we are moving towards the direction .. in the favour of higher megapixels
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Anonymous, 31 May 2022So you are knowledgable about high mp sensors ? or you just... moreIgnore this person. Same old speech that newer is always better.
This person does not care that at some point difraction becomes huge issue with very high pixel count. Does not care if battery gonna get weaker faster by fast charging.
Funny part is the IPS LCD name, when is old tech compared to current ones (mini LED and micro LED).
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Anonymous, 31 May 20221) it is pointless when it is not bayer
2) also, not ev... morewhat i am seeing is that today (last or this year phone) high mp (108mp/54mp) 12mp photoshoot are much better than 8mp from last 3,4years ago, so saying phone cant handle more than 8mp isnt true
its possible those improvement more from ISP rather than sensor, but i think each part contribute in outcome improvement, except you can prove otherwise
people might think how the maker approach like making high mp sensor is sort of useless, but then again do you have solution feasible tech and cost-wise ?
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IpsDisplay, 31 May 2022Technology is leaning towards high computational power..
... moreSo you are knowledgable about high mp sensors ? or you just repeating what others say ?
just because your preference is high mp sensors with small pixel sites, doesn't mean it's the best tech or the future.
quality is still better than quantity , if the end result is important to you of course.
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GS88, 31 May 2022The imx700 is 1/1.28" and 50MP. But, this is still fai... morePhone would need to be 30mm thickness to fit all this.
Some brands even use 1/4" and 1/4.4" fpr periscope to avoid even thicker cam bump.
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IpsDisplay, 31 May 2022Technology is leaning towards high computational power..
... more1) it is pointless when it is not bayer
2) also, not even lenses used by medium format like fuji GFX series can handle 200MP.
People here need to stop claiming lenses from cellphones can handle any megapixel count beyond 8MP. Otherwise huge sharpening would not be used on jpeg and these photos would not look muddy on high quality large screens.
Idea of this kind of tech would be to deal better with exposure, but phones fail to handle higher contrast scenes without multi frame stacking. This tech so far has been in vain because sensors are small.
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lonte bajingan, 31 May 2022samsung already on 200mp and sony stuck still with low 54mp... moreAnd what sony electronics has to do with what sony semicon sells?
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you have to suffer, 31 May 2022so which other brand will use 200mp?? moto??Several Asian brands.
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The imx700 is 1/1.28" and 50MP. But, this is still fairly large. Too bad Sony doesn't bring the best of their sensors to their own Xperia 1 and 5 phones.
Maybe the Pro-II? With imx700 as a main, the 800 as the periscope/tele and imx 789 as uw. :P
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- 31 May 2022
Come on SONY make 1 inch sensorrrrr
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Kev, 31 May 2022I'd actually want more 64MP sensors. Maybe a good one,... moreget the zte axon 40. their cameras are cool
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IpsDisplay, 31 May 2022Technology is leaning towards high computational power.. ... morehehe you pretty sure enjoying oil painting....
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you have to suffer, 31 May 2022you are still believing for that gimmick?? heck, even iPhon... moreand this is the reason why i create this account with this name.