Xiaomi 12S Ultra brings 1-inch sensor, Leica optics and Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1

04 July 2022
Along with a 6.73-inch E5 AMOLED display, 4,860mAh battery with 67W charging.

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  • 05 Jul 2022

[deleted post]2160p oled 4k screen? In which universe?

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    • 05 Jul 2022

    Anonymous, 05 Jul 2022Physical crop allows to use SteadyShot without any FOV chan... moreYou are misunderstanding how this physical crop works.

    i.imgur.com/POpSInQ.png

    Following this diagram: Green is the entire sensor on Pro-I. The circle indicates the image circle, purple is the area used to take a photo, blue is the area used for video recording, and red is blue minus the pixels for stabilization(3840x2160).

    Notice how much headroom you have between the red and purple rectangles and how there is not much of it between the red and blue. Since the diameter of the image circle is still restricted to the diagonal length of the 4:3 12 megapixel sensor area, the number of pixels which the electronic stabilization can use to wiggle the frame around will remain largely the same when shooting a video. You may gain more pixels for stabilization horizontally, but lose them vertically which will make the footage shakier when there are lots of up and down movements.

    So what does this imply? FOV and the effectiveness of stabilization are comparable on Pro-I and other phones. The use of the Type 1 sensor does not offer benefit in both photo and video, resolution wise. Sony is being dishonest by not mentioning the sensor crop and tricking people into thinking the entire area is being used for photo in the product page, and only mildly hinting at it in a few interview articles that you need to dig in.

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      • Anonymous
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      • 05 Jul 2022

      Anonymous, 04 Jul 2022This phone looks like a piece of concrete in the shape of a... moreYep, China has been doing that for years, why stop now?

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        • 46c
        • 05 Jul 2022

        Anonymous, 04 Jul 2022At last, king has come to rule.Yep, the true king of failure that is!

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          • 05 Jul 2022

          [deleted post]yes, and the market share is like 0%

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            • 05 Jul 2022

            By the way, it seems that Xiaomi's main camera has OIS (that's definitely not obvious, one always has to check this in the official specifications), I just noticed that it was mentioned during the presentation.

              Nick Tegrataker, 05 Jul 2022This is Xiaomi's first phone released after their coll... moreTrue. The Chinese launch price is the same as the Xiaomi 11 ultra as both launched at 5,999rmb in China. A European launch and Indian launch would likely be a little more expensive than the Xiaomi 11 ultra though as both currencies have depreciated significantly against the Chinese rmb since the Xiaomi 11 ultra was launched

                SShock, 04 Jul 2022I've had imported Chinese phones and their connectivit... moreIt's time for 5G. See if it matches the band or not. n28/n78 must be what you need.

                  Question is.... has the time really arrived for an android smartphone to beat the iphone in all categories?🤔

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                    • 05 Jul 2022

                    Nick Tegrataker, 05 Jul 2022You forgot to put an asterisk after the "Type 1 sensor... moreIt doesn't bother me if it's thick, as long as its not entire frame being 13mm thick, the base is 11mm , which is fine.

                    I'd take this along with xenon flash.

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                      • 05 Jul 2022

                      Anonymous, 05 Jul 2022Local communication agency can easily block non-certified d... moreThat is not possible and even if it was, a communication agency would not try to ban foreign devices without a certification. In Japan there is a cert called Giteki and it is illegal for you to use any kinds of wireless communication devices without one, and this includes all parallel imported multimedia devices, but no local careers nor the government ever cared about it.

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                        • 05 Jul 2022

                        Anonymous, 05 Jul 2022Excuse me? Panasonic CM1 (2014) : 1" Nokia 808 ... moreThose Nokia phones were not relevant in the market from the sales standpoint, never had any influence on other brands and it was only after Huawei that everyone begun the transition to significantly bigger sensors. Now even after Huawei has gone, companies are still in a sensor size race.

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                          • 05 Jul 2022

                          Nick Tegrataker, 05 Jul 2022You forgot to put an asterisk after the "Type 1 sensor... morePhysical crop allows to use SteadyShot without any FOV change, despite imx486 is not multi-aspect like 300(Z5) and 400 (XZ1). No sensor is ever used entirely for video, not even those 16:9 like Samsung S6.

                          Anyway, there is zero chance japanese engineers make phone with bump that huge/thick. Panasonic did because it was more like camera with android than phone. But today, it is out of question.

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                            • 05 Jul 2022

                            Nick Tegrataker, 05 Jul 2022A company needs a certification to sell a device officially... moreLocal communication agency can easily block non-certified devices from using local networks. This is why you see device that are not sold in the country XYZ, but phone is certified there.

                            Xiaomi phones have FCC ID, but not sold in USA.

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                              • 05 Jul 2022

                              Thank you China for leading the world in technology with this beast

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                                • 05 Jul 2022

                                Anonymous, 05 Jul 2022Though one needs to say that the article isn't complet... moreExcuse me?

                                Panasonic CM1 (2014) : 1"
                                Nokia 808 (2012) : 1/1.12"
                                Nokia 1020 (2013) : 1/1.5"

                                  Anonymous, 04 Jul 2022PRO-I is compact phone with Type 1 sensor compared to this ... moreYou forgot to put an asterisk after the "Type 1 sensor" part, the phone you mentioned doesn't use the entire sensor width to capture photos nor to record videos.

                                    yalim, 04 Jul 2022an interesting experimental phone.good camera but huge in s... moreThis is Xiaomi's first phone released after their collaboration with Leica, which also happens to have the highest specs and be the most expensive one among all the phones they have released so far. It's pretty clear that Xiaomi is testing the water with this release to better prepare for the international releases of upcoming Leica-branded phones (13 series onwards) in the future.

                                      blue, 04 Jul 2022Better then Xperia pro? In which timeline?Pro-I has an SD card slot and a headphone jack as well as a camera app that allows more granular control over how you capture photos and videos, but in terms of overall hardware specs it doesn't really compete with 12S Ultra.

                                        Anonymous, 04 Jul 2022Not that simple. Even if phone is not sold somewhere, it ne... moreA company needs a certification to sell a device officially in a country, but the device doesn't need one to function properly in the country.